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Re: Study shows that steroids lead to lopsided face
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2015, 10:21:24 PM »
Why is an enlarged heart bad? Surely a bigger stronger heart is a good thing

An enlarged heart may be bigger, but it isn't stronger. That's the problem.

Folks with congestive heart failure have enlarged hearts.

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Re: Study shows that steroids lead to lopsided face
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2015, 01:33:14 AM »
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Re: Study shows that steroids lead to lopsided face
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2015, 02:19:45 AM »
An enlarged heart may be bigger, but it isn't stronger. That's the problem.

Folks with congestive heart failure have enlarged hearts.

This.

A heart is more like an organ than a muscle as understood by most (skeletal muscle).

Organ don't get stronger with use. They get "weaker" in the sense of getting worn out. If that was the case an alcoholic would have a strong liver. They do get an enlarge liver but not a stronger one.

The heart and lungs are pretty much fixed in their capacity to perform. You can improve your cardiovascular ability by increasing the size of blood vessels and veins, capillary beds... your cardio efficiency. But your heart and lungs itself doesn't increase it's capacity to pump blood and increase oxygen. It can to some extent but not enough to support an additional 50-75 lbs of muscle with out causing an additional burden.

Whether it's fat or muscle being very big is not healthy. 

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Re: Study shows that steroids lead to lopsided face
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2015, 02:23:21 AM »
all else aside, pellius wtf were you thinking here  :D


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Re: Study shows that steroids lead to lopsided face
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2015, 06:31:12 AM »
all else aside, pellius wtf were you thinking here  :D


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Re: Study shows that steroids lead to lopsided face
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2015, 06:43:39 AM »
This.

A heart is more like an organ than a muscle as understood by most (skeletal muscle).

Organ don't get stronger with use. They get "weaker" in the sense of getting worn out. If that was the case an alcoholic would have a strong liver. They do get an enlarge liver but not a stronger one.

The heart and lungs are pretty much fixed in their capacity to perform. You can improve your cardiovascular ability by increasing the size of blood vessels and veins, capillary beds... your cardio efficiency. But your heart and lungs itself doesn't increase it's capacity to pump blood and increase oxygen. It can to some extent but not enough to support an additional 50-75 lbs of muscle with out causing an additional burden.

Whether it's fat or muscle being very big is not healthy. 
canīt agree with you. Your Heart is more efficient, it is stronger and has a lower resting pulse.. thus your max pulse is harder to reach because your trained cardio vascular system is so much better at what it does. Look at an untrained person, they hit maximum heart rate very quickly and their heart is unable to supply oxygenated blood quick enough. A trained athlete can last much longer before his cardio system and heart rate hit itīs max.. the legs and musculture are still being fed with oxygenated blood.

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Re: Study shows that steroids lead to lopsided face
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2015, 07:38:59 AM »
canīt agree with you. Your Heart is more efficient, it is stronger and has a lower resting pulse.. thus your max pulse is harder to reach because your trained cardio vascular system is so much better at what it does. Look at an untrained person, they hit maximum heart rate very quickly and their heart is unable to supply oxygenated blood quick enough. A trained athlete can last much longer before his cardio system and heart rate hit itīs max.. the legs and musculture are still being fed with oxygenated blood.
You are right, there is such a condition as athletes heart, in which the human heart is enlarged, and the resting heart rate is lower than normal.  Athlete's heart is common in athletes who routinely exercise more than an hour a day, and occurs primarily in endurance athletes, though it can occasionally arise in heavy weight trainers.  Athlete's heart most often does not have any physical symptoms, although an indicator would be a consistently low resting heart rate.

Athlete's heart is a normal, physiological adaptation of the body to the stresses of physical conditioning and aerobic exercise.  People diagnosed with athlete’s heart commonly display three signs that would usually indicate a heart condition when seen in a regular person: bradycardia, cardiomegaly, and cardiac hypertrophy. Bradycardia is a slower than normal heartbeat, at around 40–60 beats per minute. Cardiomegaly is the state of an enlarged heart, and cardiac hypertrophy the thickening of the muscular wall of the heart, specifically the left ventricle, which pumps oxygenated blood to the aorta. Especially during an intensive workout, more blood and oxygen is required to the peripheral tissues of the arms and legs in highly trained athletes' bodies. A larger heart results in higher cardiac output, which also allows it to beat more slowly, as more blood is pumped out with each beat.
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Re: Study shows that steroids lead to lopsided face
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2015, 08:43:31 AM »
"Studies" show?? The article refers to a single case lol

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Re: Study shows that steroids lead to lopsided face
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2015, 08:47:56 AM »
But I have noticed my facial features change while on cycle....Jaw becomes squarer, neck becomes thicker, features just seem to be more "chiseled".

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Re: Study shows that steroids lead to lopsided face
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2015, 11:49:32 AM »
But I have noticed my facial features change while on cycle....Jaw becomes squarer, neck becomes thicker, features just seem to be more "chiseled".

You're lucky. A lot of bodybuilders who use steroids get "fat" faces.

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Re: Study shows that steroids lead to lopsided face
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2015, 07:29:47 PM »
You're lucky. A lot of bodybuilders who use steroids get "fat" faces.

Probably because they eat too much food.

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Re: Study shows that steroids lead to lopsided face
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2015, 07:30:43 PM »
all else aside, pellius wtf were you thinking here  :D



Still broken hearted about finding out your man was a fraud -- or as you like to always say, a hypocrite. A term you don't understand.

Seriously, you come across as so sad and depressed. How many times in the last year have you contemplated suicide?

How long did you search the net trying to find a gif that suits your agenda? Nothing but time on your hands when you live off the labor of someone else.

One day you won't be getting money from your mom and will have to support yourself. Then you will find that life is more than just getting stoned, being on an internet board and desperately trying to get laid. 30 years old is not that far off, boy.

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Re: Study shows that steroids lead to lopsided face
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2015, 07:34:40 PM »
You're lucky. A lot of bodybuilders who use steroids get "fat" faces.

Because they were fat to begin with, got fatter while on. It's a classic.
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Re: Study shows that steroids lead to lopsided face
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2015, 07:36:43 PM »
canīt agree with you. Your Heart is more efficient, it is stronger and has a lower resting pulse.. thus your max pulse is harder to reach because your trained cardio vascular system is so much better at what it does. Look at an untrained person, they hit maximum heart rate very quickly and their heart is unable to supply oxygenated blood quick enough. A trained athlete can last much longer before his cardio system and heart rate hit itīs max.. the legs and musculture are still being fed with oxygenated blood.

Incorrect. Your heart is not stronger. Not by much. It doesn't get stronger with use. Your cardio vascular efficiency, which includes a myriad of factors: hemocrit level, arterial/vein size and dialation, oxygen transfer.... is what improves. Not the heart muscle per se. Not by much. Same with the lungs. The air capacity is fixed. Other factors come into play.

Bodybuilder do a ton of cardio and resistance training. They should be in fabulous shape. It is their sheer size that kills them. The heart cannot support all that muscle mass the human body just was not designed to carry.