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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #50 on: April 07, 2016, 03:50:37 AM »
Quote from: SuperTed on April 07, 2016, 02:13:39 AM
Not natural Wiggs. Just pre-GH + Insulin.

this.
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2016, 04:00:57 AM »
Quote from: Wiggs on April 06, 2016, 05:12:39 PM
I'm sorry he was natural.  Let's remember this is Ronnie Coleman we're talking about here. Not Mike O'hearn.  Ronnie has some of the greatest ability to build muscle that we've ever seen. Add in his training style, consistency, durability and have a mentor in Brian Dobson to guide you.  I have no doubt Ronnie was natural from what I've seen.  I've had my ear to walls on this subject a long time and the same thing keeps popping up.  Ronnie was natural when he turned pro, it was a drug tested event.  Of course there's always the possibility he could have went around it but with all due respect, we're talk about Ronnie and Brian not Barry Bonds and Victor Conte.  Also this was 1991 alot harder to cheat drug test back then. The knowledge wasn't around like it is now.

Are you sure about this?
Have you talked to someone who WAS THERE, and can corroborate that urine samples were actually analized by a independent source. Are you absolutely sure of this?
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2016, 04:17:16 AM »
people who think Ronnie took GH and insulin and all of a sudden morphed the way that he did obviously have very limited experience of what these substances can do.

Look at how shallow he looks in his amateur days - if he'd been taking much of anything he'd have been way bigger than that with his genetics.

The only debate should be whether her was half natty or real natty.

We'll never know, but my buddy (a top 3 ASC placer) has told me in the past that the general consensus is that he was clean until he turned pro.

After all, RC having the smarts / hook ups to beat a drug test... ::)
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2016, 04:34:20 AM »
Quote from: Coffeed on April 07, 2016, 02:15:30 AM


Elite Hebrew strength genetics of peace.
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #54 on: April 07, 2016, 04:52:27 AM »
Quote from: Disgusted on April 06, 2016, 06:49:12 PM
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Seriously a bunch of dumb asses in here.
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #55 on: April 07, 2016, 06:48:11 AM »
Quote from: Wiggs on April 06, 2016, 05:16:34 PM
Lets keep in mind this is a man that still has the hairline of a 13 year old and was able to impregnate women consistently while winning Mr. Olympias.  Where' not talk about your average joe here. 

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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2016, 06:53:55 AM »
Amazed at the amount of stupidity there is with people in relation to this sort of thing still. Just wow.
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #57 on: April 07, 2016, 08:32:21 AM »
Every time when I think you've reached the peak of your stupidity, you somehow manage to raise the bar even higher. What a pathetic waste of air negroid.
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #58 on: April 07, 2016, 08:52:39 AM »
What you can prove and what you know for fact are entirely different. Only Ronnie knows the truth. And we all know bodybuilders lie.

Based on his build at that time, I am going to say that he was not natural. I will say that given his elite genetics, perhaps he was on less stuff than the average bodybuilder at that time. But that is even stretching it. But natural? Nope.
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #59 on: April 07, 2016, 03:27:53 PM »
I believe 100% Ronnie is natural here.
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #60 on: April 07, 2016, 04:09:15 PM »
Quote from: TheShape. on April 07, 2016, 03:27:53 PM
I believe 100% Ronnie is natural here.


Yea, his pecs have that "flatness" that natties have. Poor souls.
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #61 on: April 07, 2016, 04:11:02 PM »
Quote from: BIG_STI on April 07, 2016, 04:52:27 AM
Seriously a bunch of dumb asses in here.

People just like to re-write history is all.
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #62 on: April 07, 2016, 04:20:43 PM »
Quote from: SF1900 on April 07, 2016, 08:52:39 AM
What you can prove and what you know for fact are entirely different. Only Ronnie knows the truth. And we all know bodybuilders lie.

Based on his build at that time, I am going to say that he was not natural. I will say that given his elite genetics, perhaps he was on less stuff than the average bodybuilder at that time. But that is even stretching it. But natural? Nope.

One of the only logical guys on gb :D
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #63 on: April 07, 2016, 04:28:21 PM »
Quote from: _aj_ on April 07, 2016, 04:09:15 PM
Yea, his pecs have that "flatness" that natties have. Poor souls.

He may look flat due to being natural but he has achieved "muscle maturity".
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #64 on: April 07, 2016, 04:32:32 PM »
Quote from: Bevo on April 07, 2016, 04:20:43 PM
One of the only logical guys on gb :D

 :D :D

The first line should have read, "What you believe and what you can prove are entirely different."

But you did get the gist of  my post.  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #65 on: April 07, 2016, 04:43:10 PM »
Quote from: jr on April 07, 2016, 01:24:51 PM


Waterlogged 50 mg of dianabol per day leading up to first bodybuilding contest of peace.
That was in college, correct?
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #66 on: April 07, 2016, 05:10:21 PM »
Quote from: Parker on April 07, 2016, 04:43:10 PM
That was in college, correct?

He was in 7th grade.
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Re: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here
« Reply #67 on: April 07, 2016, 11:59:18 PM »
Quote from: Wiggs on April 06, 2016, 05:02:12 PM
Based upon all my accumulated knowledge of genetics of the races, training, drugs and nutrition, I believe Ronnie was still a lifetime natural as he said he was and rumored to have been when he became a pro. He has superior Hebrew genetics. Ronnie is an example of the old saying "imagine if he was on steroids".  When he did hop on steroids and everything else, he became Mr. Olympia.

Ronnie is the greatest lifetime natural of all time. Ohearn, Drug Miller, Ulyssess and Simeon Panda not so much on the natural side.

About as believable as anything you post, these days.  ::)
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