Author Topic: I 100% believe that Ronnie was natural here (Read 10894 times)

Wiggs · « **on:** April 06, 2016, 05:02:12 PM »

Based upon all my accumulated knowledge of genetics of the races, training, drugs and nutrition, I believe Ronnie was still a lifetime natural as he said he was and rumored to have been when he became a pro. He has superior Hebrew genetics. Ronnie is an example of the old saying "imagine if he was on steroids". When he did hop on steroids and everything else, he became Mr. Olympia.

Ronnie is the greatest lifetime natural of all time. Ohearn, Drug Miller, Ulyssess and Simeon Panda not so much on the natural side.

Coffeed · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2016, 05:04:20 PM »

As sure as the Earth is flat, he was natural.

C-BuZz · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2016, 05:10:43 PM »

Could easily be filled with natural testosterone. Looks like your average gym rat with those shitty 21" biceps.

Wiggs · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2016, 05:12:39 PM »

Quote from: Coffeed on April 06, 2016, 05:04:20 PM

As sure as the Earth is flat, he was natural.

I'm sorry he was natural. Let's remember this is Ronnie Coleman we're talking about here. Not Mike O'hearn. Ronnie has some of the greatest ability to build muscle that we've ever seen. Add in his training style, consistency, durability and have a mentor in Brian Dobson to guide you. I have no doubt Ronnie was natural from what I've seen. I've had my ear to walls on this subject a long time and the same thing keeps popping up. Ronnie was natural when he turned pro, it was a drug tested event. Of course there's always the possibility he could have went around it but with all due respect, we're talk about Ronnie and Brian not Barry Bonds and Victor Conte. Also this was 1991 alot harder to cheat drug test back then. The knowledge wasn't around like it is now.

Wiggs · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2016, 05:13:41 PM »

Quote from: C-BuZz on April 06, 2016, 05:10:43 PM

Could easily be filled with natural testosterone. Looks like your average gym rat with those shitty 21" biceps.

This is Ronnie we're talking about. Let's keep that in mind.

_aj_ · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2016, 05:14:44 PM »

Quote from: C-BuZz on April 06, 2016, 05:10:43 PM

Could easily be filled with natural testosterone. Looks like your average gym rat with those shitty 21" biceps.

Spot on.

Wiggs · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2016, 05:16:34 PM »

Lets keep in mind this is a man that still has the hairline of a 13 year old and was able to impregnate women consistently while winning Mr. Olympias. Where' not talk about your average joe here.

Coffeed · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2016, 05:28:48 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on April 06, 2016, 05:16:34 PM

Lets keep in mind this is a man that still has the hairline of a 13 year old and was able to impregnate women consistently while winning Mr. Olympias. Where' not talk about your average joe here.

That's true.

He also squatted 800 pounds for reps.

The fact that Ronnie actually talks about how he went from not doing drugs to DOING drugs during his career gives him some odd degree of believability.

Wiggs · « **Reply #8 on:** April 06, 2016, 05:39:31 PM »

Based on that photo, Ronnie was in the 90 kg or 198 lb division. It's not like he's 220. 198 stage ready at 5'10 with the best genetics is believable.

2scared2post · « **Reply #9 on:** April 06, 2016, 05:42:24 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on April 06, 2016, 05:12:39 PM

I'm sorry he was natural. Let's remember this is Ronnie Coleman we're talking about here. Not Mike O'hearn. Ronnie has some of the greatest ability to build muscle that we've ever seen. Add in his training style, consistency, durability and have a mentor in Brian Dobson to guide you. I have no doubt Ronnie was natural from what I've seen. I've had my ear to walls on this subject a long time and the same thing keeps popping up. Ronnie was natural when he turned pro, it was a drug tested event. Of course there's always the possibility he could have went around it but with all due respect, we're talk about Ronnie and Brian not Barry Bonds and Victor Conte. Also this was 1991 alot harder to cheat drug test back then. The knowledge wasn't around like it is now.

Wiggs · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2016, 05:46:04 PM »

Quote from: 2scared2post on April 06, 2016, 05:42:24 PM

I'm amazed he last as long as he did. That's a testament to his durability and lesser man couldn't have done what he did. I certainly don't condone it.

MCWAY · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2016, 05:48:15 PM »

Ronnie also competed in the ADFPA before his breakout in bodybuilding. I think this footage is from that organization.

Royalty · « **Reply #12 on:** April 06, 2016, 05:53:26 PM »

I really want to believe that Ronnie was natural. I guess that it is possible.

Bevo · « **Reply #13 on:** April 06, 2016, 06:07:36 PM »

Rather have levrone genetics than Ronnie any day. Levrone is still going....

Wiggs · « **Reply #14 on:** April 06, 2016, 06:08:41 PM »

Quote from: jr on April 06, 2016, 06:07:06 PM

Another gifted natural athlete.

He's not natural anymore. That pic is not from when he was natural.

Wiggs · « **Reply #15 on:** April 06, 2016, 06:11:02 PM »

Quote from: Bevo on April 06, 2016, 06:07:36 PM

Rather have levrone genetics than Ronnie any day. Levrone is still going....

Levrone didn't put his foot on the gas pedal on everything the way Coleman did. Levrone was smart in taking long breaks.

C-BuZz · « **Reply #16 on:** April 06, 2016, 06:12:02 PM »

Need to get blaha or vegangins in here to set the record straight.

Kwon_2 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 06, 2016, 06:13:12 PM »

As sure as the Earth is flat and the Hebrews were black.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #18 on:** April 06, 2016, 06:15:16 PM »

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #19 on:** April 06, 2016, 06:17:17 PM »

Wiggs · « **Reply #20 on:** April 06, 2016, 06:17:29 PM »

Quote from: C-BuZz on April 06, 2016, 06:12:02 PM

Need to get blaha or vegangins in here to set the record straight.

they'll use those that chart and say he's in the suspect area of the chart and have inconclusive results. I think one must take into account other things unnatural about Ronnie, the weight lifts, the size he was able to get to, he ability to still reproduce while on copious amounts of peds and his hairline hasn't budged.

Coffeed · « **Reply #21 on:** April 06, 2016, 06:21:22 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on April 06, 2016, 06:11:02 PM

Levrone didn't put his foot on the gas pedal on everything the way Coleman did. Levrone was smart in taking long breaks.

Smart?

Levrone was fucking lazy and didn't really want it bad enough... NOT that that's a bad thing in this "sport."

Levrone was notoriously lazy.

Wiggs · « **Reply #22 on:** April 06, 2016, 06:23:05 PM »

Quote from: Coffeed on April 06, 2016, 06:21:22 PM

Smart?

Levrone was fucking lazy and didn't really want it bad enough... NOT that that's a bad thing in this "sport."

Levrone was notoriously lazy.

His laziness paid off long term.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #23 on:** April 06, 2016, 06:28:45 PM »

Quote from: Coffeed on April 06, 2016, 06:21:22 PM

Smart?

Levrone was fucking lazy and didn't really want it bad enough... NOT that that's a bad thing in this "sport."

Levrone was notoriously lazy.

He wasn't " lazy " he just wasn't as motivated , the story on him was he was a bodybuilder trying to be a musician or musician trying to be a bodybuilder. He would stop competing for 6 months at a clip chasing his musical career , what's legendary was him going from 170 to 240 in about 4 months

Flex was lazy , he definitely relied to heavily on his genetics.

Wiggs · « **Reply #24 on:** April 06, 2016, 06:39:36 PM »

Quote from: jr on April 06, 2016, 06:33:32 PM

Puffy nipples of peace. Totally natural.

His nipples aren't puffy. You want to see a puffy nipple on Ronnie, look at the 1998 Mr. O. He had gyno there. Other than that, he's never shown any signs of gyno.