Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is....

[Griffith]

So "normal" automatically equals "good" or what?  I'm trying to figure out what you're saying.

No, what is considered 'normal' or 'good' can depend on people's and society's views at a particular time.

[Las Vegas]

No, what is considered 'normal' or 'good' can depend on people's and society's views at a particular time.

But 'can' doesn't necessarily mean 'should' right?

[Yamcha]

[drkaje]

The main point is that is what is considered 'normal' changes over time according to the changing cultures of society.

The other point, is that gays and transgenders have existed for thousands of years, its not some new phenomenon.

People chemically castrate themselves with PED side-effects. No one says "You're not normal, your body is a temple"... they just write which drugs will reduce the sides.

Also, people damage their hearts, livers, kidneys, lungs, etc... using drugs attempting to force their bodies' into Arnold, Superman, or some other unrealistic image in their heads and no one says a fucking thing.

There are probably more bodybuilders suffering from body dysmorphic disorder than transgendered, FFS! I find it amusing that a bunch of guys who will inject oil, drugs, overeat, and train to look like someone/something else are such hypocrites with it comes to a segment of society that's probably smaller than themselves.

Own your own shit, is all I'm saying. Don't bully or hate other's in God's name.

[Las Vegas]

Just don't expect applause when you make a claim stating you know better than God and/or Nature (take your pick, or both).

[Taffin]

Aggressive males in a general population are the first line of defense against wrongful power-grabs.

So if you're part of a cabal with tyranny in mind, you have every reason to want to see the males in that society turn into a sad bunch of Bruce Jenners.

Because of the overall tone of the thread, I initially read your above statement as: "if you're part of a cabal with trannys in mind, you have every reason to want to see the males in that society turn into a sad bunch of Bruce Jenners."

Weird how the human brain works...

[Taffin]

If no one is getting hurt, who cares how others want to live their life.

^^^ There it is....

[TuHolmes]

Agreed, this is bizarre. There should be no financial benefit in marrying, straight nor gay. The state should not be involved in any marriage, at all, ever. I take it you support this position as well? Small government for the win.

Yet there is.

Try telling married people that their married tax benefits will be going away and see how that goes.

Small Govt Conservatives are an endangered species. We're being hunted to extinction by right-wingers who want the US govt and political system to be extensions of their religion.

I agree. Small government conservatives are a dying breed.

[Las Vegas]

Because of the overall tone of the thread, I initially read your above statement as: "if you're part of a cabal with trannys in mind, you have every reason to want to see the males in that society turn into a sad bunch of Bruce Jenners."

Weird how the human brain works...

Can't say you weren't making sense of it, still, though.

 

[Wiggs]

The Bible has been around a long time and countless people have derived their moral code from it AND other books inspired by it. It holds even more power today. To say not follow what the Bible said regarding homosexuality or anything else controversial is a pretty bold and dumb statement.

Using incendiary words like hate and bully to position yourself in a higher position morally doesn't change what the Bible says about these abhorrent  behaviors. If you're a secularist or nihilist. Fine, fuck off. But for much too long, these spiritual tards and their lack of discernment has led this country and the western world down a path of debauchery in the name of being equal. You people don't understand law and order and believe chaos is order. You're genuinely screwed in the head.

[Griffith]

People chemically castrate themselves with PED side-effects. No one says "You're not normal, your body is a temple"... they just write which drugs will reduce the sides.

Also, people damage their hearts, livers, kidneys, lungs, etc... using drugs attempting to force their bodies' into Arnold, Superman, or some other unrealistic image in their heads and no one says a fucking thing.

There are probably more bodybuilders suffering from body dysmorphic disorder than transgendered, FFS! I find it amusing that a bunch of guys who will inject oil, drugs, overeat, and train to look like someone/something else are such hypocrites with it comes to a segment of society that's probably smaller than themselves.

Own your own shit, is all I'm saying. Don't bully or hate other's in God's name.

Exactly.

Guys using steroids and male hormones are trying to make themselves hyper-masculine, by using synthetic drugs.
Altering their bodies beyond and differently to what nature intended.

Its not 'natural' either.

[loco]

Georgia ACLU director resigns over transgender directive

[drkaje]

Exactly.

Guys using steroids and male hormones are trying to make themselves hyper-masculine, by using synthetic drugs.
Altering their bodies beyond and differently to what nature intended.

Its not 'natural' either.

"It's natural because I'm replacing what my body would have made 39 years ago", LOL!

[Bindare_Dundat]

All well and good. But what would your plan of action be? Take away an adult's personal choice by forcing them into therapy, drugs and possibly even being involuntarily institutionalised? Or more generally speaking, are you for personal freedom only for those actions you personally deem acceptable? If so, then why stop at transgenders? I think modern feminists are crazy. Lock those up too? How about right-wing militia nutcases? Force them to take their pills. Bodybuilders with body dysmorphia? Ban then from all gyms.

Before anyone wants to twist this into something it is not: I don't believe being transgender is a thing. But if they want to believe it is, then it should be their personal freedom as an adult to do so.

The problem us they don't live in a bubble and the rest of us have to deal with their issues as well and we shouldn't have to. That's where I have an issue with it.

[Bindare_Dundat]

I agree that everyone should have a choice on how they should live their lives (as long as no one is hurt) and that to an extent, almost everyone suffers from some form of mental issue.

However, I think the problem many have with the whole transgender movement is the forced acceptence of it as something that is totally natural and that those who change their gender are just as authentic in their new sex as those who are born within it. Caitlyn Jenner winning "Woman of the Year" is a good example of this.

Anyone who speaks out against this, is quickly branded a bigot.
Germaine Greer was branded "transphobic" for simply stating that transgender women "are not real women". 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34625512

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/germaine-greer-defends-grossly-offensive-comments-about-transgender-women-just-because-you-lop-off-a6709061.html

Exactly.