Fortress: strongest and weakest

[funk51]

But Musclemag International said Dillet could DB shoulder press the 170lbers!!!!

                                          maybe he used these dbs.

[Dave D]

I'm 60 and all my friends that could bench 400 plus back in the day can't do 225lbs now. Either their shoulder joint is shot or their elbows. I think the bench is really hard on the joints. It is a limited range exercise by arching, big chest or even short arms. It creates inflexibility and that's how you get a tear.

And i'm sure you know people in your age range with the same issues who never lifted. Knee, hip, shoulder replacements are fairly common among an older age group. This is for all lifestyles.

[Fortress]

And i'm sure you know people in your age range with the same issues who never lifted. Knee, hip, shoulder replacements are fairly common among an older age group. This is for all lifestyles.

Consistent strength training from a young age, with studied technique and WITHOUT steroids/drugs, a lifter can enter his mid-to-later years with minimal training-induced injury.

[Dave D]

Consistent strength training from a young age, with studied technique and WITHOUT steroids/drugs, a lifter can enter his mid-to-later years with minimal training-induced injury.

I agree.

My point was I know many elderly people, who lived normal lifestyles, with the same injuries as those who were competitively strong.

Take care of our body dont abuse it.

[Brian Poulos]

Consistent strength training from a young age, with studied technique and WITHOUT steroids/drugs, a lifter can enter his mid-to-later years with minimal training-induced injury.

I was a couch potato through my childhood and early adulthood. Then I jumped into The Starting Strength Linear Progression program and boy oh boy I skyrocketed.

[Fortress]

I agree.

My point was I know many elderly people, who lived normal lifestyles, with the same injuries as those who were competitively strong.

Take care of our body dont abuse it.

Yeah. We all grow old. You can be decrepit, stiff and STRONG, or ... just decrepit and stiff.

[Dave D]

I was a couch potato through my childhood and early adulthood. Then I jumped into The Starting Strength Linear Progression program gimmick schmoe that posted under multiple accounts on a bodybuilding message board without an audience and boy oh boy I skyrocketed in post count.

You're welcome.

[wes]

LOL   

[Kwon]

I was a couch potato through my childhood and early adulthood. Then was in a bogus car-crash and boy oh boy did my faggotry skyrocket after that post.

[Bevo]

And i'm sure you know people in your age range with the same issues who never lifted. Knee, hip, shoulder replacements are fairly common among an older age group. This is for all lifestyles.

Exactly, like Ronnie it’s all genetics, he was going to need 20+ surgeries including hip replacement whether it was yelling “light weight baby doing 800 pound squats” or being a cop chasing a Hebrew on foot, stealing rims and a pair of jordans

[Dave D]

Exactly, like Ronnie it’s all genetics, he was going to need 20+ surgeries including hip replacement whether it was yelling “light weight baby doing 800 pound squats” or being a cop chasing a Hebrew on foot, who was stealing rims and a pair of jordans

Well said. Life ain't nothing but a peanut

[Humble Narcissist]

I'm 60 and all my friends that could bench 400 plus back in the day can't do 225lbs now. Either their shoulder joint is shot or their elbows. I think the bench is really hard on the joints. It is a limited range exercise by arching, big chest or even short arms. It creates inflexibility and that's how you get a tear.

I did heavy benches in my late 20's and messed up my shoulder.  From age 29-35 I didn't have full motion in my right shoulder and was always in pain which I figured would be for life.  Fortunately it totally healed but I have always used dumbbells since and higher reps and no problems.

Word of wisdom for young trainers:  don't do the all singles workout program that Brooks Kubik advocated in Dinosaur Training as it will fuck you up!

[Griffith]

I did heavy benches in my late 20's and messed up my shoulder.  From age 29-35 I didn't have full motion in my right shoulder and was always in pain which I figured would be for life.  Fortunately it totally healed but I have always used dumbbells since and higher reps and no problems.

Word of wisdom for young trainers:  don't do the all singles workout program that Brooks Kubik advocated in Dinosaur Training as it will fuck you up!

Did anything help your shoulder heal?

[Humble Narcissist]

Did anything help your shoulder heal?

Time.  I wasn't going to have shoulder surgery because I know lifters who have had it done and were unimpressed with the results.  Like the lower back stretching and time help a lot.

[Powerlift66]

Strongest Ive trained with (well past their prime of course):

Ted Arcidi (Mr. 705).
Frank Ciavattone (N.E. Strongest Man 1986, 1-hand deadlift w/ 562 lbs, lifted Dinnie Stones, hundred's of world records in USAWA).

Weakest I trained near (not a lifter) - Shawn Michaels when he was in his wrestling prime. Came into town for a WWE match and trained near us on bench, etc.
Well, he trained light but was in great shape and had to Rassle that night, so not really sure how strong he may have been.

[chaos]

Strongest Ive trained with (well past their prime of course):

Ted Arcidi (Mr. 705).
Frank Ciavattone (N.E. Strongest Man 1986, 1-hand deadlift w/ 562 lbs, lifted Dinnie Stones, hundred's of world records in USAWA).

Weakest I trained near (not a lifter) - Shawn Michaels when he was in his wrestling prime. Came into town for a WWE match and trained near us on bench, etc.
Well, he trained light but was in great shape and had to Rassle that night, so not really sure how strong he may have been.

Any video of that 562 one handed dead? Never heard of the guy before but a quick check shows some impressive numbers.

[Bevo]

Consistent strength training from a young age, with studied technique and WITHOUT steroids/drugs, a lifter can enter his mid-to-later years with minimal training-induced injury.

That’s the thing though, a serious lifter 9 out of 10 will be on gear, lift heavy weights, at some point fuck up their shoulders, back, joints, etc... age and then can’t let it go and continue with nothing but a deterioted body

Mike onhearn is next, guy can’t stop lifting heavy as he’s entering his 50’s, body will give out sooner or later