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Re: Starting TRT
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2017, 07:45:49 AM »
Yes.

Prolactin rises cause of increasing estrogen I believe.  I used .5 arimidex twice a week and felt like I was 18 again.   You can always get arimidex from these HRT clinics pretty easy, or I'd see an endocrinologist as they know more of what's going on.

I'm 38 and getting labs done on Thursday and I'm somewhat excited if their low so I can start HRT but I'm hesitant cause I know it's a life commitment.  I wonder when test undeconate will be released
Thanks for sharing.  I want to remind us, that I did get gyno on one side of my chest, and to my surprise, it completely went away after ceasing the TRT.  I am obviously very sensitive to estrogen for whatever reason.  I had gyno surgery 6 years ago to remove the lump on my right chest after taking a (then legal) pro-hormone, so I was aware of the possibility of gyno but was hoping I wouldn't get it again.  So if I do ever run Test again, this is a real concern, actually, the main concern is how to manage estrogen and prolactin properly.  Not sure if I mentioned it earlier, but I was running A-dex from a "gym source" the last 3 weeks of my time on TRT and it de-sensitized the gyno a bit but certainly didn't dissolve/remove the pain/lump.  2 weeks after my last injection when I decided to quit, I saw and endocrinologist and requested Clomid to recover my balls, lol.  Luckily, she wrote a 'script.  I may add that 6 months of all the doctor visits and labs and Test (which was the cheap part) cost me about $1500 bucks.  Kinda sad about it, lol.  Still leaves me with lots of questions though, as to, "what went wrong?"  I believe it's more complicated than just taking A-dex, but, I'm still trying to educate myself in case I do it again the future. 

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Re: Starting TRT
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2017, 11:33:18 PM »
Been busy so updating on my progress.

Just to update, been getting the weekly shot of Test Cyp 130, and 250 units HCG. 
Also, I ended up with some extra Test Cyp, and ended up getting a second shot of 200mg 2 times in the last month, I did them usually 3 days after my shots at the clinic.  I could definitely feel the extra Test Cyp shot for like a week afterward, everything was bigger and my workouts were intense.  I can see how it could be addictive to run a huge amount of Test all the time. 

I can feel the HCG shot for about 2 or 3 days after I get it.  Usually, my energy spikes and I can feel it.

My muscles feel fuller, my strength is up and I'm losing body fat slowly. 

My mood is much less irritable and I feel more motivated to do things around the house. 

I haven't had any labs drawn yet but I think my level might be getting into the high normal range consistently as my libido is off the charts for several weeks now.  I'm wearing out my wife.  In general I'm walking around about 5-15% erect, which I'm thinking is the Test, but it could be extra blood volume from excess fluid.

I'm starting to get soreness in my right nipple area though for about 3 days now.  And my BP is slightly higher from 120s/70s, to 130s/70s.  I'm hoping as my body adjusts and if I add more cardio to my workouts my BP will drop back down.

I'm getting my labs drawn this Monday coming up so that will tell the story.  Overall, I'm really liking everything about TRT so far.  My mood and motivation have improved vastly, my libido is way up and getting to the clinic once a week hasn't been a problem.  The nipple soreness is no big deal as I was kind of expecting some gyno, and as long as my body tolerates TRT and I can keep my blood pressure good.  I will just have to get a surgery to remove those glands.  I haven't noticed any hair loss yet, but I was already getting some baldness prior to the TRT.

Later on tonight I will go through and respond to the previous posts.

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Re: Starting TRT
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2017, 11:49:04 PM »
I like aromasin much better than adex.  Also, if prolactin and ED are an issue, a little prami goes a long way.

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Re: Starting TRT
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2017, 08:39:09 AM »
I like aromasin much better than adex.  Also, if prolactin and ED are an issue, a little prami goes a long way.

Is aromasin easy for a doc to prescribe?  They only wanna write arimidex
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Re: Starting TRT
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2017, 11:14:53 AM »
Is aromasin easy for a doc to prescribe?  They only wanna write arimidex

I'm surprised they'll write it for arimidex. My dr said it was "cosmetic".
Also, carefull withbdoing "extra" shots.. Your bloodwork could come out high n the dr may drop the dose. Depends on the dr. I had one dr say "we don't care how high it goes, w only care about how low it goes".. Cpl months later new dr says test is way too high we gotta lower it. Did a 200 cyp shot on monday and bloodwork on wed n came back 1400. Dr didnt understand halflives. Lol

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Re: Starting TRT
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2017, 01:15:40 PM »
aromasin by phyzer is good shit.

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Re: Starting TRT
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2017, 06:39:04 PM »
I'm surprised they'll write it for arimidex. My dr said it was "cosmetic".
Also, carefull withbdoing "extra" shots.. Your bloodwork could come out high n the dr may drop the dose. Depends on the dr. I had one dr say "we don't care how high it goes, w only care about how low it goes".. Cpl months later new dr says test is way too high we gotta lower it. Did a 200 cyp shot on monday and bloodwork on wed n came back 1400. Dr didnt understand halflives. Lol

Yep I was concerned about that.  I have a few more of the extra shots and likely will have a couple of extra ones each month for the foreseeable future, but like you said, I don't want the level to come in high and end up getting my weekly dose lowered.  I took the last extra shot on Jan 30th and I'm going to wait until after this next Monday to get my labs drawn and see my results before I do any more extra shots.  The Dr I'm seeing at the clinic seems to be pretty knowledgeable as he said the normal procedure is to get the labs drawn then get my weekly dose, so he can see what the low level is.  Which to me seems common sense but as I've been reading TRT forums, some doctors do some strange shit to people.

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Re: Starting TRT
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2017, 02:54:12 PM »
TRT docs dont like anti oestrogen's as they kill HDL levels which are already under attack from age and the TRT, getting bloodwork done prior and when on them will support their argument, stable low doses won't aromatise in most experiences, especially if you use a long ester like enanthate, I pin 75mgs or around .33ml subcutaneously every 5-7 days, provides an upswing only it doesn't feel like I'm on gear like years ago and its not supposed to, High test is a negative at my age 46 I want all the health benefits and none of the negatives, this dose most guys won't feel, I haven't done a cycle in over 10 years, and reluctantly take TRT as body never recovered from competitive days, so i want the lowest possible dose, there is defiantly a benefit on this low amount if you are coming from a clean or long time, coming off 250-600mgs you won't feel any benefit.

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Re: Starting TRT
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2017, 04:14:17 PM »
TRT docs dont like anti oestrogen's as they kill HDL levels which are already under attack from age and the TRT, getting bloodwork done prior and when on them will support their argument, stable low doses won't aromatise in most experiences, especially if you use a long ester like enanthate, I pin 75mgs or around .33ml subcutaneously every 5-7 days, provides an upswing only it doesn't feel like I'm on gear like years ago and its not supposed to, High test is a negative at my age 46 I want all the health benefits and none of the negatives, this dose most guys won't feel, I haven't done a cycle in over 10 years, and reluctantly take TRT as body never recovered from competitive days, so i want the lowest possible dose, there is defiantly a benefit on this low amount if you are coming from a clean or long time, coming off 250-600mgs you won't feel any benefit.
I just started trt at a dose of 25 mg every 3 days, and I feel great!  My plan is to get labs done and dial in the perfect dose that keeps me from needing an AI

Once that happened I can maybe do some hgh or something like oxandrolone which I love but it destroys my hdl...  the only other thing my doc will write is nandrolone
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