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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2021, 05:41:32 PM »
Quote from: oldtimer1 on January 02, 2021, 05:21:53 PM
No one dies from insulin?  If you take insulin your body slows the amount of insulin it produces. It can lead to diabetes and diabetic shock. It's also bad for the heart. Most diabetics die from a heart attack.

I could write a few pages on this, but insulin doesn't kill acutely. It can, but rarely does so in "recreational" use.
Insulin use doesn't damage the natural insulin production, in fact can protect the pancreas of PED  using bodybuilders.
Diabetics suffer cardiovascular problems but not because of the insulin they take. It's sugar that's the culprit among other things, there are a lot of systems malfunctioning in diabetics and there are several types of diabetes as well, not just the 2 common ones.

When "they" talk about insulin killing athletes they usually mean ODing acutely... very rare.

There is one compound that does cause diabetes in bodybuilders: growth hormone. Many bodybuilders are type 2 due to gh.
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2021, 05:52:13 PM »
Quote from: Van_Bilderass on January 02, 2021, 11:25:00 AM
Oxycodone, Adderall, meth are some of the things he and others talked about. You can clearly see the amphetamines in many videos.
If you do these it's also sure as shit you sprinkle in things like GHB or benzos to wind down. And if you do meth you're unlikely to turn down coke.
He had said that as he had the money and access it was hard to moderate.

No one really dies from insulin. GH and roids are bad for the heart, the combo even more so. Add in stims when you have  cardiomegaly and you can see it's not the healthiest thing in the world...


Did GetBig ever rule on whether he was OD'ing on Oxycodone (or similar) or suffering a hypo in that video where Sara is willing him to die while pretending to care and filming it?
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2021, 09:49:43 PM »
Quote from: Darren Avey on January 02, 2021, 07:29:05 AM
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2021, 10:28:16 PM »
Quote from: Fortress on January 01, 2021, 02:57:33 PM
The clown is a big part of why bodybuilding sucks so bad now.
^THIS^
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2021, 02:49:35 AM »
Quote from: Taffin on January 02, 2021, 05:52:13 PM

Did GetBig ever rule on whether he was OD'ing on Oxycodone (or similar) or suffering a hypo in that video where Sara is willing him to die while pretending to care and filming it?
It was some opioid.
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2021, 10:50:32 AM »
Quote from: Van_Bilderass on January 02, 2021, 05:41:32 PM
I could write a few pages on this, but insulin doesn't kill acutely. It can, but rarely does so in "recreational" use.
Insulin use doesn't damage the natural insulin production, in fact can protect the pancreas of PED  using bodybuilders.
Diabetics suffer cardiovascular problems but not because of the insulin they take. It's sugar that's the culprit among other things, there are a lot of systems malfunctioning in diabetics and there are several types of diabetes as well, not just the 2 common ones.

When "they" talk about insulin killing athletes they usually mean ODing acutely... very rare.

There is one compound that does cause diabetes in bodybuilders: growth hormone. Many bodybuilders are type 2 due to gh.

Any effective remedies to reduce risks of developing diabetes while on gh?
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2021, 11:06:52 AM »
Quote from: irishdave on January 03, 2021, 10:50:32 AM
Any effective remedies to reduce risks of developing diabetes while on gh?
Irishdave....you still around ??   8)
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2021, 11:28:44 AM »
Quote from: oldtimer1 on January 02, 2021, 05:21:53 PM
No one dies from insulin?  If you take insulin your body slows the amount of insulin it produces. It can lead to diabetes and diabetic shock. It's also bad for the heart. Most diabetics die from a heart attack.

the quantity of crap he had put in his body and the pressure on the heart to carry that amount of mass around... he wasnt setting himself up for a long life.
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2021, 12:05:16 PM »
Regardless of all the shit he did, he was entertaining and he did know bodybuilding,  did he fuck up his body with fillers/tattoos yes, but he did have a great build at one point in time.
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2021, 01:33:09 PM »
Quote from: irishdave on January 03, 2021, 10:50:32 AM
Any effective remedies to reduce risks of developing diabetes while on gh?

I don't know man, the problem is that the reason GH burns fat is that it increases the amount of fat you use for energy vs glucose. So the insulin resistance is kind of tied into one of the mechanisms for how GH changes body composition.
Bodybuilders today often use Metformin to counteract insulin resistance on GH so that is one thing you can use.

Fouad Abiad has bad kidney issues and apparently he is on something called gliflozin, a diabetes drug that makes you piss out glucose. It's not a kidney drug per se, but seems they are trying this to halt kidney disease progression. This fella called Leo Rex on youtube has been talking about it.
Fouad has probably been Type II like a lot of bodybuilders. High blood sugar wrecks your organs.
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2021, 05:23:05 PM »
Quote from: Dr Dutch on January 03, 2021, 11:06:52 AM
Irishdave....you still around ??   8)

Back in Ireland
COVID has made me pop on a bit more for a look
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2021, 05:25:57 PM »
Quote from: Van_Bilderass on January 03, 2021, 01:33:09 PM
I don't know man, the problem is that the reason GH burns fat is that it increases the amount of fat you use for energy vs glucose. So the insulin resistance is kind of tied into one of the mechanisms for how GH changes body composition.
Bodybuilders today often use Metformin to counteract insulin resistance on GH so that is one thing you can use.

Fouad Abiad has bad kidney issues and apparently he is on something called gliflozin, a diabetes drug that makes you piss out glucose. It's not a kidney drug per se, but seems they are trying this to halt kidney disease progression. This fella called Leo Rex on youtube has been talking about it.
Fouad has probably been Type II like a lot of bodybuilders. High blood sugar wrecks your organs.

I use pharma in the 3-5iu range daily. I eat a lot of shit too. Recent bloods all fine though.

I do have insulin in the fridge. Was going to start using it Again while on gh
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2021, 05:48:07 PM »
Quote from: irishdave on January 03, 2021, 05:25:57 PM
I use pharma in the 3-5iu range daily. I eat a lot of shit too. Recent bloods all fine though.

I do have insulin in the fridge. Was going to start using it Again while on gh

Ever measure fasting glucose in the morning? Might be interesting to do, both when on and off the GH.
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2021, 01:56:10 AM »
Quote from: Van_Bilderass on January 03, 2021, 05:48:07 PM
Ever measure fasting glucose in the morning? Might be interesting to do, both when on and off the GH.

I should and shall
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2021, 05:41:19 AM »
stupid question but here it goes: so those GH boosters you can buy at a place like GNC like NUGENIX... are a) crap and don't do anything or b) help and do work a bit and are so mild you don't have to worry about any bad side effects?..
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2021, 07:22:57 AM »
Quote from: Tom on January 04, 2021, 05:41:19 AM
stupid question but here it goes: so those GH boosters you can buy at a place like GNC like NUGENIX... are a) crap and don't do anything or b) help and do work a bit and are so mild you don't have to worry about any bad side effects?..

Too mild to do anything. There are oral GH boosters that are easily available from supplement shops that really work but have side effects. Gray area legally but available.
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2021, 08:08:33 AM »
Wasn't she the one that came on here talking about how he didn't own his cars, they were salvage titles on money he borrowed and all kind of shit... then he appeared and in two pages had her licking her own corn off his dick?
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2021, 03:03:36 PM »
oral gh boosters you can get at a supplement store quote "work" but their are side effects? side effects like what?...
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2021, 03:14:10 PM »
Quote from: Tom on January 04, 2021, 03:03:36 PM
oral gh boosters you can get at a supplement store quote "work" but their are side effects? side effects like what?...

I'm talking specifically about MK-677. Extremely effective.
Side effects are the same as injectable GH: big water retention, possibly carpal tunnel syndrome, notable insulin resistance and higher blood glucose. Then you have sides like sleepiness, sometime extreme, and massive appetite increase.
It works and I use it. My friend is an advanced bb and in 2 days he is up 6-7lbs in water water weight, 2 single caps total.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibutamoren
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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2021, 03:16:07 PM »
Quote from: LurkerNoMore on January 04, 2021, 08:08:33 AM
Wasn't she the one that came on here talking about how he didn't own his cars, they were salvage titles on money he borrowed and all kind of shit... then he appeared and in two pages had her licking her own corn off his dick?

Rocco Piana..?



Quote from: Tom on January 04, 2021, 03:03:36 PM
oral gh boosters you can get at a supplement store quote "work" but their are side effects? side effects like what?...

Alters the crucial "dick:balls" ratio...

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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2021, 10:03:17 AM »
Quote from: The Keto Kid on January 03, 2021, 12:05:16 PM
Regardless of all the shit he did, he was entertaining and he did know bodybuilding,  did he fuck up his body with fillers/tattoos yes, but he did have a great build at one point in time.

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Re: In Memory of Rich Piana
« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2021, 10:25:36 AM »
It would have been interesting to see Rich Piana during the Covid shutdowns were he still alive today. ;D
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