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3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« on: January 25, 2021, 01:14:42 PM »
https://neckberg.com/3-bodybuilders-who-committed-suicide/

Not sure if God forgives this sin. Anyone knowledgeable about this religous question chime in.

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2021, 01:16:33 PM »
You should  pray harder and raise them from the dead to get clarity on this issue.

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2021, 02:27:46 PM »
https://neckberg.com/3-bodybuilders-who-committed-suicide/

Not sure if God forgives this sin. Anyone knowledgeable about this religous question chime in.

I thought you get forgiven when asked? So if you jumped off a building and asked for forgiveness on the way down, wouldn't that be ok?

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2021, 04:08:19 PM »
https://neckberg.com/3-bodybuilders-who-committed-suicide/

Not sure if God forgives this sin. Anyone knowledgeable about this religous question chime in.

Fuck off.

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2021, 04:10:10 PM »
https://neckberg.com/3-bodybuilders-who-committed-suicide/

Not sure if God forgives this sin. Anyone knowledgeable about this religous question chime in.

Fuck off

PS: that sin is forgivable

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2021, 07:38:46 PM »
The Lord is kind and merciful. Forgiveness of sin is up to him and not up to human judgement.

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2021, 07:50:39 PM »
You should  pray harder and raise them from the dead to get clarity on this issue.
Dead lifting?

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2021, 08:06:31 PM »
One variation of the suicide and forgiveness notion I have read is that you don't need forgiveness for suicide.  We are all taught that God has a plan for us.  If you kill yourself, then obviously that was God's plan.  Or else it wouldn't have happened.  Why do you need to be forgiven for what God mapped out for you?  This has been used in a sort of "real talk" and "tough love" intervention. To make people accept responsibility for their own actions.

That being said, suicide is sad thing.  I don't think any of us on this board (excluding anyone that purposefully attempted suicide that I may be unaware of) understand how bad a person can be hurting on the inside to make them want to end their life.  Yes, in some notes that people leave behind we can look at the reasons that they chose to take their life over - relationship ending, financial problems, etc...- just seem so trivial to some of us when we hear of it.  What we consider to be minor problems appear nothing of the sort for people that have them combined with depression.  It is just so sad that a person will look at the next month, the next week, the next day and only think it is going to be worse than the present day.  We are taught as children that "things are going to get better".. but some people just see things only getting worse and worse each day and decide being dead forever is a much better solution.  I realize that an exception may be made for people who are facing life altering situations like going to prison for a long time, or having a terminal illness, or being maimed and crippled to the point that they really have no life due to the physical limitations they are suffering from.  But most people have the thoughts and attempts coming from emotional and/or mental suffering. 

There was a girl here in the hospital that killed herself years ago.  She was 26, was a beautiful girl, great body, was one of the most popular RNs around, had just got engaged, and was selected for a fully paid ride to get her CRNA.  And she killed herself.   Everyone was stunned.  You would have thought she would be the last person to ever do this because she was so bright and had a fantastic personality and attitude.   She had so much to live for.   You never saw her sad or troubled.  But underneath that facade, she was extremely depressed.  No one really understood what she was going through and it made her feel even more alone.

To be honest, I am surprised that more BBers - or people who risk (and sometimes lose) everything they have (health, career opportunities, family relationships, retirement security, etc..) for a plastic trophy don't do this more often.

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2021, 08:25:44 PM »
The Lord is kind and merciful. Forgiveness of sin is up to him and not up to human judgement.

But He does make his laws clear in the Bible. Now according to the Jehovah's Witnesses, who we can agree are the most upright of Christians, have this to day:

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As Christians, we are interested in how Jehovah views suicide. To Jehovah human life is precious and sacred. (Genesis 9:5; Psalm 36:9) The intentional killing of oneself is self-murder, and it is therefore displeasing in God’s eyes. (Exodus 20:13; 1 John 3:15)

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2021, 08:28:37 PM »
But He does make his laws clear in the Bible. Now according to the Jehovah's Witnesses, who we can agree are the most upright of Christians, have this to day:

WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME............. ..............FUCKFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2021, 08:29:24 PM »
Dead lifting?

Yes!

But He does make his laws clear in the Bible. Now according to the Jehovah's Witnesses, who we can agree are the most upright of Christians, have this to day:


Great first post Lefty! What a great time to join the board!

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2021, 08:33:21 PM »
Yes!

Great first post Lefty! What a great time to join the board!
Thank you sir. I'm here for the bodybuilding but also very interested in matters pertaining to the Lord.

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2021, 01:00:11 AM »
"Lefty Stevenson"

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2021, 01:53:54 AM »
Thank you sir. I'm here for the bodybuilding but also very interested in matters pertaining to the Lord.
You came to the wrong place pal.  LOL  ;D

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2021, 02:25:43 AM »
Thank you sir. I'm here for the bodybuilding but also very interested in matters pertaining to the Lord.
There is a religion board on Getbig.

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2021, 02:28:06 AM »
Thank you sir. I'm here for the bodybuilding but also very interested in matters pertaining to the Lord.

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2021, 03:08:45 AM »
Thank you sir. I'm here for the bodybuilding but also very interested in matters pertaining to the Lord.

On Getbig, we only have one Lord, and that is Lord Ron Avidan and of course his counterpart Anti-christ Matt Canning.
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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2021, 03:35:09 AM »
The Lord might forgive suicide but your family won’t, especially if you have kids. It’s a curse that impacts generations.

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2021, 04:09:45 AM »
On Getbig, we only have one Lord, and that is Lord Ron Avidan and of course his counterpart Anti-christ Matt Canning.
I just woke up.......still half asleep but I  got a laugh out of that one! ;D

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2021, 09:25:54 AM »
One variation of the suicide and forgiveness notion I have read is that you don't need forgiveness for suicide.  We are all taught that God has a plan for us.  If you kill yourself, then obviously that was God's plan.  Or else it wouldn't have happened.  Why do you need to be forgiven for what God mapped out for you?  This has been used in a sort of "real talk" and "tough love" intervention. To make people accept responsibility for their own actions.

That being said, suicide is sad thing.  I don't think any of us on this board (excluding anyone that purposefully attempted suicide that I may be unaware of) understand how bad a person can be hurting on the inside to make them want to end their life.  Yes, in some notes that people leave behind we can look at the reasons that they chose to take their life over - relationship ending, financial problems, etc...- just seem so trivial to some of us when we hear of it.  What we consider to be minor problems appear nothing of the sort for people that have them combined with depression.  It is just so sad that a person will look at the next month, the next week, the next day and only think it is going to be worse than the present day.  We are taught as children that "things are going to get better".. but some people just see things only getting worse and worse each day and decide being dead forever is a much better solution.  I realize that an exception may be made for people who are facing life altering situations like going to prison for a long time, or having a terminal illness, or being maimed and crippled to the point that they really have no life due to the physical limitations they are suffering from.  But most people have the thoughts and attempts coming from emotional and/or mental suffering. 

There was a girl here in the hospital that killed herself years ago.  She was 26, was a beautiful girl, great body, was one of the most popular RNs around, had just got engaged, and was selected for a fully paid ride to get her CRNA.  And she killed herself.   Everyone was stunned.  You would have thought she would be the last person to ever do this because she was so bright and had a fantastic personality and attitude.   She had so much to live for.   You never saw her sad or troubled.  But underneath that facade, she was extremely depressed.  No one really understood what she was going through and it made her feel even more alone.

To be honest, I am surprised that more BBers - or people who risk (and sometimes lose) everything they have (health, career opportunities, family relationships, retirement security, etc..) for a plastic trophy don't do this more often.
 




I'm surprised to hear you talk about God/Religion...You are a Democrat, are you not? You know, the party that fiercely defends the killing of innocent unborn babies.

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2021, 10:10:14 AM »
 




I'm surprised to hear you talk about God/Religion...You are a Democrat, are you not? You know, the party that fiercely defends the killing of innocent unborn babies.

Religion isn't determined by political parties.  I can point out even more hypocrisy against Jeebus and his daddy committed by Republicans.  I'm an atheist.  If I were religious I would still be pro choice since God himself is ok with abortion.

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Re: 3 bodybuilders who committed suicide
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2021, 10:27:37 AM »
I thought this was another thread about what happened to Laura Bass.