Well smartass. You're discussing the part drugs play within the different leagues of DRUGGED bodybuilding. Of course genetics, shape, ect. plays a role here.
Yet, what Matt C and others are duscussing is the part Drugs play in the physiques of Top level BB's COMPARED to drugfree BB's, and the difference is staggering. Without drugs, a pro would look like a stick compared to his "drugged" self.
Thats not thier point.They claim pro's are onyl juice,which is obviously wrong.
NO ONE ever claimed to be as big without the juice,stop thinking that they got shity genetics without it.
Lets say the same pro keeps training and eating good but stops the juice,sure he will lose lots of size but there is no reason for him to be a worse BB then someone who was natural all along.
And unlike many of you I talk from personal and close friends experiance,so please STFU and GTFO.