Do aspiring bodybuilders know about the seedier side of the business?

[bmacsys]

lol 

A)  Not everyone decides that’s aceptable to them, and they decline to do so.

B)  It’s easier to do it when you see/realize how many of your peers are doing it. 

C) If someone offered you 5-10K to pose for musclegallery.com would you? 

Not if you have a shred of self respect you don't.

[Victor VonDoom]

B) Selling your soul is selling your soul, it doesn't matter how many people are doing it...

There isn't a human being on this board that wouldn't pose for whatever that thing you mentioned for $5,000,000. Not one. That kind of money changes your life forever.

First, you pretend to have principles by saying it doesn’t matter what other people would do... you would go your own way.

Then you point to your belief that “everyone would do it” to justify your own decision.

Doom is amused.

[nycbull]

Perhaps you need a refresher course in owning.

There isn't a human being on this board that wouldn't pose for whatever that thing you mentioned for $5,000,000.

Not one. That kind of money changes your life forever.

Shouldn't you be cooking up some Gay Mafia conspiracy that you think we all care about?

lol good post dude, some of us are not interested in all this gay town cryer crap from some of the gay members on this board. They act like they are somehow in the know, and that you guys actually want to hear about homo sex. I apologies for all these lame ass gays. I hope you know that there are some decent gay guys that aren't always talking about gay sex in front of straight guys.

[Rami]

No hating, just curious as to when they realize they're going to have to stand in a room without clothes on while some rich old gay dude jerks off in the corner.

I'm also curious when they actually agree that this is an acceptable way to earn money.

And this seams to be the part of bodybuilding you are focusing on and are most obsessed/interesting in 

[Woten]

I'd shit on someone for five grand, pounds not dollars, I do have some standards

 

[ieffinhatecardio]

First, you pretend to have principles by saying it doesn’t matter what other people would do... you would go your own way.

Then you point to your belief that “everyone would do it” to justify your own decision.

Doom is amused.

I admit that it's contradictory but $5,000,000 changes everything.

I hate to break it to you but the $5,000,000 would justify my decision the fact that everyone would do it is helpful but not as much of a justification as the money.

I know Doom approves of $5,000,000.

[caseyviator]

as long as you see bodybuilding as a hobby and not a career, you'll be ok.  many people are able to work 40 hours a week at a regular job and still compete at the national level.   

yea but that is no where close to a pro level its not even compareable imo

[Kegdrainer]

the true bottom line is that to be really successful at ANYTHING in life you need to step on a lot of people, and do things that may be construed as morally or ethically wrong, even if they compromise your personal values. 

[G o a t b o y]

in other words, dont ever quit your day job, never

Most of the ones that ones who sell drugs or their ass have never had a day job.  They get out of high school or drop out of college at 18 or 19, and turn pro in their 30's...  you do the math.

[BayGBM]

I admit that it's contradictory but $5,000,000 changes everything.

[HRDCOR]

Nothing wrong with bodybuilding , what other sport or sporting body allows such morally wrong , law breaking , drug taking , anti social behaviour from its athletes on a day to day basis with out any re percutions what so ever  ??

None , thats who , bodybuilding is unique , you can do any thing in bodybuilding you want , try doing what bodybuilders do if you played pro soccer, rugby, tennis etc , you would be booted out as fast as you could draw 2 ml of Decca out of your vial !!

We are lucky to be bodybuilders , the world is our oyster !!!

Hell Titus could get done for murder , be out in 5 years ( hypothetically of course ) and still do the IFBB Pro Masters if he wanted !!! try that in another sport and see how you would get on !!!

[ieffinhatecardio]

Last I checked you asked if I'd pose for $5,000 not $5,000,000.

You realize there's a difference between those two numbers right?

Or are you too lost in the delusion that everyone wants to be part of the Gay Mafia to comprehend the $4,995,000 difference? 

[timfogarty]

yea but that is no where close to a pro level its not even compareable imo

there are a few hundred guys with IFBB pro cards, but how many make enough to live on from bodybuilding?  A dozen?

how many national level amateurs are there?  about 120 (men) enter the NPC Nationals.   how many outside the US?  maybe 200 enter the IFBB Worlds.

so, lets say 2% of all national level amateurs can turn pro, and 6% of all pros make enough money to live on, that means .12% of all national level amateurs can make a career out of being a pro bodybuilder.

[Victor VonDoom]

I know Doom approves of $5,000,000.

Bah!  Doom is not motiavted by money.

At least you didn't post one of your secretive Gay Mafia posts designed to make everyone think you're in the know and everyone else is an outsider even though the percentage of posters on this board that want to be an insider in the Gay Mafia is perhaps 2%.

Shouldn't you be cooking up some Gay Mafia conspiracy that you think we all care about?

Or are you too lost in the delusion that everyone wants to be part of the Gay Mafia to comprehend the $4,995,000 difference? 

Without prompting of any kind you have thrice brought up this idea of a Gay Mafia.  Why are you fixated on this?  Are you feeling left out?  Did Bay kick you out of the mafia?

Survey says....? 

Doom is amused.

[dr.chimps]

Last I checked you asked if I'd pose for $5,000 not $5,000,000.

You realize there's a difference between those two numbers right?

Or are you too lost in the delusion that everyone wants to be part of the Gay Mafia to comprehend the $4,995,000 difference? 

Maybe they're just haggling at this point? 

[delta9mda]

Of course Bay gotta come in and 'gay it up'. At least Timmy-boy here didnt make the theme of this thread any more gay than it is...he posted a good post. Bay on the other hand  flocks to thread titles like this like the way flys flock to shit.

 Remember Bay...wether you believe it or not...accept it or not...laugh at me or mock me or not...you're going to pay for demonic possession that you alllow to control you.

 Timmy knows the truth...people who oppose this simply do because they dont WANT there to be a God who makes the rules. Nobody likes to be told what the consequences will be for their actions...

im not gay and dont advocate it but i also dont think bay was gaying it up. he wrote great points.
if you see alot of people doing something, it is easier to do and accept.
not everyone accepts it or chooses to do it and you dont have to do "it" to get to the top.
some people will do anything for money and to some 5-10k is alot of money. ask adonis.

[Ex Coelis]

there are a few hundred guys with IFBB pro cards, but how many make enough to live on from bodybuilding?  A dozen?

how many national level amateurs are there?  about 120 (men) enter the NPC Nationals.   how many outside the US?  maybe 200 enter the IFBB Worlds.

so, lets say 2% of all national level amateurs can turn pro, and 6% of all pros make enough money to live on, that means .12% of all national level amateurs can make a career out of being a pro bodybuilder.

I like those odds 

[ieffinhatecardio]

Bah!  Doom is not motiavted by money.


Without prompting of any kind you have thrice brought up this idea of a Gay Mafia.  Why are you fixated on this?  Are you feeling left out?  Did Bay kick you out of the mafia?

Survey says....? 

Doom is amused.

Apparently Doom is motivated by lying because if you say $5,000,000 wouldn't motivate you then honesty isn't your strong suit.

As for the Gay Mafia thing it's what seperates Bay from everyone else, he mentions the Gay Mafia all the time. In essence it's his identification. The same way Bee Bollen is an identifier for Vince, shiny polyester shirts are for Chick, ILS for Lift and amusing signatures for Special Ed. Even you have your identifying tag line "Doom approves" or "Doom is amused".

In short I mention it because it's who he is.

[Matt C]

Is Woten currently incarcerated?

[gordiano]

"Do aspiring bodybuilders know about the seedier side of the business?  "

I think many are aware of it. They just don't care. They figure it may be a stepping stone to something else. Sadly, they are mistaken. I guess if you've got NOTHING else going for you, you're not very smart, you're good at working out, and popping pills, why not? 

[BayGBM]

im not gay and dont advocate it but i also dont think bay was gaying it up. he wrote great points.
if you see alot of people doing something, it is easier to do and accept.
not everyone accepts it or chooses to do it and you dont have to do "it" to get to the top.
some people will do anything for money and to some 5-10k is alot of money. ask adonis.

Thanks for that. I wasn’t gaying it up; I was making specific relevant points.  Unfortunately some people see gay overtones everywhere they look.

I’ll give you three guesses as to why that is. 

[Adam Empire]

I like those odds 

I love that line   


Anyway, I'll add a story to this thread.  A few years back I lifted at the same gym as an NPC National Level Competitor (I'll keep his name out of the story here).  I saw and talked to him almost daily.  Anyway, one day we were talking about jobs as I had gotten a new one.  And he in all seriousness said,

"That's why I got to turn Pro, because that's where the money is."

I agreed to be nice, but realized that if this guy who has competed for a Pro Card is ignorant to this, tons must be.  Kind of sad really as he thought that the Pro card was his ticket out of his current sh!tty job...

[AlliedPowers]

Perhaps you need a refresher course in owning.

There isn't a human being on this board that wouldn't pose for whatever that thing you mentioned for $5,000,000.

Not one. That kind of money changes your life forever.

Shouldn't you be cooking up some Gay Mafia conspiracy that you think we all care about?

gay mafia is the homob.