Dorian At The 1996 Olympia.

[carvedoutofwood]

not saying that dillet should ever have beaten yates... i was just saying he had a superior physique.... but when u cant display it to its fullest.... what good is it... dorian was a great poser... and even better at hiding his many flaws , notice how few front double bic's (pretty much the premier pose in BB) uve ever seen him do

[pobrecito]

To say Dillet was better than Yates is absurd. He had no back and his delts were full of synthol.

[NarcissisticDeity]

not saying that dillet should ever have beaten yates... i was just saying he had a superior physique.... but when u cant display it to its fullest.... what good is it... dorian was a great poser... and even better at hiding his many flaws , notice how few front double bic's (pretty much the premier pose in BB) uve ever seen him do

Dillett had superior genetics and structue ( with the exception of his back ) no one will deny that , but Bob Paris had better structure and genetics than most of his contemporaries and he never won a single contest , it takes more than having the best base to be the best man .

[jwb]

Dillett had superior genetics and structue ( with the exception of his back ) no one will deny that , but Bob Paris had better structure and genetics than most of his contemporaries and he never won a single contest , it takes more than having the best base to be the best man .

dillet's back was so pathetic he basically ruled himself out of every contest as soon as he turned around...

yates may not have had the BEST arms or quads but he hardly had the WORST...

[NarcissisticDeity]

dillet's back was so pathetic he basically ruled himself out of every contest as soon as he turned around...

yates may not have had the BEST arms or quads but he hardly had the WORST...

It was terrible and I love the people who claim it was becuse he couldn't pose because of an injury  his back was NOT on par with the rest of his physique , it lacked thickness , detail and muscularity , although he was wide that was about it , his back double was dominated by gigantic delts and arms .

[Hulkster]

I have never really be than impressed with Dillett in most poses.

he had great shape, but lacked good detail esp. in his back.

his delts, for example, even back before the days of synthol, were huge and enormous, but had little cuts

[suckmymuscle]

]his delts, for example, even back before the days of synthol, were huge and enormous, but had little cuts

  Not to mention that they were unbalanced: a monstrous front head, and sub-par medial and anterior ones. That's one of the reasons why Dorian destroyed Dillet in the side triceps mandatory, despite having larger triceps and vastus medialis and equally etched serratus.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[rccs]

dorian was far better in 93 AND 94

94?
No, no, no, no!!! Total disagreement!

[jwb]

94?
No, no, no, no!!! Total disagreement!

yates was tops in 93 followed by 95, 96, 92, 97 and 94

[Shockwave]

yates was tops in 93 followed by 95, 96, 92, 97 and 94

Swap 94 and 97. He was horrid in 97... 94 he really didn't look that bad, other than his fucked up tan.

[jwb]

Swap 94 and 97. He was horrid in 97... 94 he really didn't look that bad, other than his fucked up tan.

well that is the toss up isn't it... he didn't look great either year but who did he have to beat really? a shrimpy shawn ray and a no back nasser... hardly a stretch for him...

[pumpster]

well that is the toss up isn't it... he didn't look great either year but who did he have to beat really? a shrimpy shawn ray and a no back nasser... hardly a stretch for him...

To summarize, he was able to get away with being mediocre.

I have never really be than impressed with Dillett in most poses.

he had great shape, but lacked good detail esp. in his back.

his delts, for example, even back before the days of synthol, were huge and enormous, but had little cuts

Given that no one's perfect, Dillet had less flaws than either Yates or Coleman. At similar sizes, Coleman never had Dillet's waist nor his lower body aesthetics & balance. Coleman should've spent the 4-5 years bringing up the calves while refining and bringing down thigh size, which he clearly didn't.

SUCKY still furiously backpeddling. 

[Shockwave]

well that is the toss up isn't it... he didn't look great either year but who did he have to beat really? a shrimpy shawn ray and a no back nasser... hardly a stretch for him...

Haha, no shit.... I'd definatley say 94 though. He still had that 93 shape, just with a bad tan, and recovering from the torn bi.

[pumpster]

recovering from the torn bi.

Which is the "bad" arm?

[Dredlock Rasta]

To summarize, he was able to get away with being mediocre.
Given that no one's perfect, Dillet had less flaws than either Yates or Coleman. At similar sizes, Coleman never had Dillet's waist nor his lower body aesthetics & balance. Coleman should've spent the 4-5 years bringing up the calves while refining and bringing down thigh size, which he clearly didn't.

SUCKY still furiously backpeddling. 

Coleman at one time did have dillet's waist. Coleman has more leg size than dillet had and  equal aesthetic e.g. more sweep. Calves on the other hand, dillet wins clearly.

Also when people talk about big waists, sometimes that has to do more with the hip bone size than the actual waist. See Coleman has small hip bones however his waist is big due to muscle size, gh or whatever. However Culter has big hips. No matter what he did he would always look blocky because of his wide hips. Even if he never took G.H., did deadlifts, squats or whatever exercises that make the obliques bigger, he still would look blocky with a big waist and hips. Same with dorian.

It seems that wide hips are found primarily anglo bodybuilders and that's why the don't tend to look as aesthetic as black bodybuilders.

[pumpster]

Coleman at one time did have dillet's waist. Coleman has more leg size than dillet had and  equal aesthetic e.g. more sweep. Calves on the other hand, dillet wins clearly.

Did not have Dillet's waist when bigger, and it had nothing to do with structural issues. Coleman's leg size was a negative IMO-too big for both the rest of the physique and for the calves. He could've done a lot more to address that while improving calves. Dillet beats him in lower body thanks to much better balance in both areas.

[suckmymuscle]

SUCKY still furiously backpeddling. 

  Not really, retard. I stand by what I said: Dillet's deltoids sucked overrall because they lacked balance between the three heads and overpowered his entire physique from the front.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pumpster]

Dillet's deltoids sucked overrall because they lacked balance between the three heads and overpowered his entire physique from the front.

If your silliness were at all true rather than more babbling, it would mean that your hero has zero delts, traps or arms - in all areas Dillet had more striations, size and refinement you bozo- the pic doesn't lie like you do.

[pumpster]

Yates' arms are a joke, so is his lack of definition & size in certain areas (I won't mention the gut).

[jwb]

dillet had great legs overall...

pity he posed like he was in the special olympics!

[suckmymuscle]

If your silliness were at all true rather than more babbling, it would mean that your hero has zero delts, traps or arms - in all areas Dillet had more striations, size and refinement you bozo- the pic doesn't lie like you do.

  Ok, you idiot fucker. Do you realize that there are three deltoid heads? Do you realize that his front deltoid head overpowered his other two? Are you retarded, or is this your pathetic attemp to make the case that Dillet's delts were superior to Dorian's because they looked more massive from a single angle? Turn to the sides, and Dorian's delts blow Ronnie's out of the water both in size and proportions. This is one of the reasons why Dillet couldn't defeat Dorian in the side triceps mandatory - and despite his triceps being more massive: his delts lacked proportional development of the three heads, which is seen in this mandatory. Dorian won this over Dillet because his triceps had more quality, but also because his deltoids were more massive from the sides. Your move, dumbass.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

I have never really be than impressed with Dillett in most poses.

he had great shape, but lacked good detail esp. in his back.

his delts, for example, even back before the days of synthol, were huge and enormous, but had little cuts

  Dillet was a victim of his training style. He took it really easy in the gym, doing mostly cable crossovers for chest, side laterals for delts, cable curls or biceps, etc. On the one hand, it made him look incredible by not thickening his waist while allowing him to have 23" arms. Conversely, not doing heavy basics with barbells%dummbells resulted in a very lat look to his muscles, which became apparent rom the sides. It also resulted in a shitty back, because the back only thickens with heavy rows.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Mr. Michael Moore]

I won that show!

Maybe in your wildest, most wet dreams you did.....maybe, just maybe!

Hope this helps!!