Yes Body88...i would actuall put Arnold 80 in front of this year's Jay in terms of worse mr. O. the thing is that back in the day the conditioning vs mass diffrences was not as big as it is today. People were getting away with being the top 3 in conditioning and top 5 in mass to claim a Pro win. Now the conditioned ppl are soo much more outmassed by the big guys that its really judging two diffrent creatures up there. Jay this year must of been the Top 3 in Mass(Ronnie, Markus,Jay), and Top 5 in conditioning.(Rockel, Dexter, Alves,Paco, Jay) But judges give more points for being big than being ripped.
Jay Cutler 27% 6
Chris Dickerson 27% 6
Franco Columbo 27% 6
Arnold (1980 Version) 14% 3
Frank Zane 5% 1
Larry Scott 0% 0
Samir Bannout 0% 0
total votes: 22
(22 votes so far, 50 votes makes a poll valid).