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Re: Government Targets American Bloggers As Enemy Propagandists
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2006, 01:47:03 PM »
You're again chosing to look at one thing and ignore the larger picture.

No I'm not.  I'm reading and interpreting the Act.  It doesn't apply to U.S. citizens.  There are times when we should be concerned about a loss of freedoms, like warrantless wiretaps, but this Act isn't something I'm going to lose any sleep over.   

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Re: Government Targets American Bloggers As Enemy Propagandists
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2006, 02:17:01 PM »
BB,

Homeland Security chief Chertoff said this week that internet bloggers were aiding Al Quida's efforts.  What they're doing is calling for a more complete investigation.  But now it seems that to question the official story is now equal to aiding the enemy.

So yes, it DOES apply to US citizens, should the Prez decide to label it so.  There is no check and balance anymore.  If Bush decides that Alex Jones or the Loose Change kids are helping Al Q by demanding a new 911 investigation, they can be locked up and tortured.

BB, if a family member of yours decides to attend a Loose Change movie screening or debate it online, he/she can be classified as aiding al-Q.   See how the law can be abused?

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Re: Government Targets American Bloggers As Enemy Propagandists
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2006, 02:31:02 PM »
BB,

Homeland Security chief Chertoff said this week that internet bloggers were aiding Al Quida's efforts.  What they're doing is calling for a more complete investigation.  But now it seems that to question the official story is now equal to aiding the enemy.

So yes, it DOES apply to US citizens, should the Prez decide to label it so.  There is no check and balance anymore.  If Bush decides that Alex Jones or the Loose Change kids are helping Al Q by demanding a new 911 investigation, they can be locked up and tortured.

BB, if a family member of yours decides to attend a Loose Change movie screening or debate it online, he/she can be classified as aiding al-Q.   See how the law can be abused?

The Act doesn't apply to you.  Or me.  Or my family.  We're U.S. citizens.  No, the military cannot, based on the express language of the Act, arrest you, a U.S. citizen, for blogging about a 9/11 conspiracy, lock you up, and torture you.   

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Re: Government Targets American Bloggers As Enemy Propagandists
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2006, 02:54:20 PM »
The Act doesn't apply to you.  Or me.  Or my family.  We're U.S. citizens.  No, the military cannot, based on the express language of the Act, arrest you, a U.S. citizen, for blogging about a 9/11 conspiracy, lock you up, and torture you.   

Dude, I really hope and pray that you are correct, my friend!

Tonight Olbermann is going to do a big piece on the ramifications of this law, 8 pm and 12 am, on MSNBC.  The initial interpretations last night though, were that anyone - US citizen or non-citizen - who aids the enemy can face these shitty things.

The fear of many is that Bush now has the ABILITY (whether he will use it or not is still unknown) to declare those who quesiton the official story as helping the enemy.

Plus, homeland security has been bashing internet bloggers a lot, saying they're helping Al-Q.   Anyone who's been to those boards know that's the LAST thing they're doing.   They want a complete investigation of what happened that day.  We KNOW Al-Q did the hijackings on 911.  We DON'T know why NORAD stood down, why WTC7 fell, or why Bush waited 441 days to investigate, or why Rudy removed the crime scene in violation of federal law.  That's all the skeptics want.  ANSWERS.  And it seems Bush now has the power to say any group is aiding the enemy, just for asking questions.  Scary.

I hope you're right, BB.  I pray you're right.

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Re: Government Targets American Bloggers As Enemy Propagandists
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2006, 03:00:51 PM »
F-ucking unreal.

We are losing our rights people.

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Re: Government Targets American Bloggers As Enemy Propagandists
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2006, 08:25:37 PM »
Wow i really cant believe that so many people are so worried about this. 1st we are a government formed by the people for the people... If you look real close it says in our constitution, that our government cannot use our own millitary on U.S. soil against its own people.... Nor do i think even if bush said screw it would this ever happen. so if SHIT ever got so bad that we were loosing our rights, we would have to pull some crazy shit and really unite as a group of U.S. Citizens and walk up to the white house with guns pitchforks and rocks drag the president out of his office while his staff ran for their lives like the cops in N.O. and take back our country..... simple as that.. and remember we have two political parties that really do oppose each other... Do you think that all of the democrats in office would do something to jeopordize their rights.....NO....How many democrats want a new investigation of 9/11 so are they all gonna go to jail.....

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Re: Government Targets American Bloggers As Enemy Propagandists
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2006, 08:29:37 AM »
Wow i really cant believe that so many people are so worried about this. 1st we are a government formed by the people for the people... If you look real close it says in our constitution, that our government cannot use our own millitary on U.S. soil against its own people.... Nor do i think even if bush said screw it would this ever happen. so If SHIT ever got so bad that we were loosing our rights, we would have to pull some crazy shit and really unite as a group of U.S. Citizens and walk up to the white house with guns pitchforks and rocks drag the president out of his office while his staff ran for their lives like the cops in N.O. and take back our country..... simple as that.. and remember we have two political parties that really do oppose each other... Do you think that all of the democrats in office would do something to jeopordize their rights.....NO....How many democrats want a new investigation of 9/11 so are they all gonna go to jail.....
I'm really sorry man... I long for the schooldayz where I too believed these things ;D

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Re: Government Targets American Bloggers As Enemy Propagandists
« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2007, 08:48:49 AM »
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