More human remains found today at ground zero

[figgs]

Wow, who would've imagined there would still be more?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/20/attack.remains.ap/index.html

NEW YORK (AP) -- Human remains that appear to be from World Trade Center victims were found by utility workers in a manhole at the northern edge of the site, a Port Authority official said Thursday.

A Consolidated Edison crew doing excavation of the manhole at street level found the remains, some as big as arm or leg bones, said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the site.

Con Ed said it entered the site Wednesday to remove material from two manholes that had been damaged and abandoned after the 2001 collapse of the twin towers.

Crews hauled the excavated materials Wednesday to a work center more than a mile away, as is customary, Con Edison said. On Thursday morning, a contractor working for the Port Authority realized the materials contained remains, Con Edison spokesman Chris Olert said, and the medical examiner's office was contacted.

Five years after 2,749 people died in the September 11 World Trade Center attacks, families of about 1,150 victims still do not know whether their loved ones' remains were recovered.

During the excavation of the 110-story twin towers, which began the evening of the attacks and lasted for nine months, about 20,000 pieces of human remains were found. The DNA in thousands of those pieces, many small enough to slip into a test tube, was too damaged by heat, humidity and time to yield matches in the many tests forensic scientists have tried over the years.

The city told victims' families last year that it was putting the project of making identifications on hold, possibly for years, until new DNA technology was developed. Last month, the company contracted to work on the bone fragments said advances had been made and new identifications would be forthcoming.

Besides the new remains found by the utility workers, the lab also has recently received hundreds of bone fragments discovered on the roof of a building just south of where the trade center had stood. The building had been condemned since the attacks and was about to be torn down when workers found the bone pieces.

Charles Wolf, whose wife Katherine's remains were never recovered, said he wants an independent party to take over the remains search. He showed up at the Con Edison site after being contacted by television stations Thursday.

"We've got a problem right now," Wolf said. "Where else are we going to find them next?"

[240 is Back]

ya know they found them on the roof of the nearby Deutch building this year?

human remains on top of a nearby skyscraper from one falling?

monster use of explosives.

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ya know they found them on the roof of the nearby Deutch building this year?

human remains on top of a nearby skyscraper from one falling?

monster use of explosives.

On the roof of a fucking skyscraper?! 

[240 is Back]

Yes, they found human remains from workers at WTC 1 and 2, on the roof of a nearby building, 4.5 years later.

The only thing that would have put them there would have been an explosion.  Things don't fall several hundred feet horizontally.  They fall towards the ground.

[figgs]

Yes, they found human remains from workers at WTC 1 and 2, on the roof of a nearby building, 4.5 years later.

The only thing that would have put them there would have been an explosion.  Things don't fall several hundred feet horizontally.  They fall towards the ground.

Can't argue with physics!

[Mr. Intenseone]

Yes, they found human remains from workers at WTC 1 and 2, on the roof of a nearby building, 4.5 years later.

The only thing that would have put them there would have been an explosion.  Things don't fall several hundred feet horizontally.  They fall towards the ground.

So you think it was as simple as that? There was an explosion.....2 planes hit a couple of towers...remember? Seems to me shit would have been flying everywhere, including bodies!

[haider]

So you think it was as simple as that? There was an explosion.....2 planes hit a couple of towers...remember? Seems to me shit would have been flying everywhere, including bodies!

You raise a good point. Not hard to believe that the impact from the plane itself could cause human remains to fly off to other buildings.

A plane hitting a building and bringing it down?

Yea right.

Human remains flying off as a result of the plane hitting hte building?

Plausible.

[pumpster]

Guess what: it's entirely plausible that it happened as most believe, with no explosives.

[240 is Back]

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Most people know it was an inside job by now. 


2 buildings this tall, falling into their own footprint in an hour.

[pumpster]

Most people know it was an inside job by now. 

Not really.

[240 is Back]

I hope you continue to read up on it.  I just read Omissions & Distortions, a dissection of the 911 Commission report, and I was shown about 300 holes in the official story.  Would you like to discuss them, point-by-point?  LOL...

it's pointless to debate the info put out by each side.  Everyone reacts to the idea differently.  Some research it and see hundreds of conflicts and believe they've been lied to.  Others will just shrug off these many things and agree that even tho Bush lied before and after 911, he probably told the truth ON 911.  And that's fine.  It's america and you're entitled to your opinion. 


 

[haider]

Damn, I almost forgot the enormous dust clowd the building left. Human remains being found on the top of other buildings doesn't give any more credibbility to the conspiracy theory. Very insiginificant when compared to the wholes being uncovered in the official story.

[240 is Back]

Damn, I almost forgot the enormous dust clowd the building left. Human remains being found on the top of other buildings doesn't give any more credibbility to the conspiracy theory. Very insiginificant when compared to the wholes being uncovered in the official story.

The 'smoking guns' are things like NORAD standing down and WTC7 falling into its own footprint from 2 small fires.  most of the other details neither nor support the official story. 

BTW, the 'dust cloud' you mention was actually pulverized concrete.  Can you name the two other instances we can observe where clouds have that heavy, rolling pyroclastic effect?  Volcanoes and controlled demolitions.  Burning buildings have never done that before in the history of many burning buildings.

it's pointless to argue- before you can accept any evidence of the day you'd have to accept the fact that governments have done self-attacks in the past.  And most people aren't ready for that, much less going beyond that.  I would encourage you to talk to people from both sides of the debate.  Ignore anyone who blindly supports anything bush says, and ignore anyone who hates everything Bush does.  Look at the evidence of the day and enjoy what you find.

[Mr. Intenseone]

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Most people know it was an inside job by now. 

Thats why it's on the front page of every newspaper in the world ? Don't you think if that was the case the Liberal press would have been all over it?

[gordiano]

  Ignore anyone who blindly supports anything bush says, and ignore anyone who hates everything Bush does.  Look at the evidence of the day and enjoy what you find.

Right.

Don't be afraid to think for yourself.

Question everything. Especially when things do not add up.

[240 is Back]

Thats why it's on the front page of every newspaper in the world ? Don't you think if that was the case the Liberal press would have been all over it?

If you were to see newspaper articles from all over the world, including from some allies of ours, which directly contradict the official story, would it make any difference to you?

I have seen Swiss, ger, fra, and some netherlands pieces on it, and some made the front page.  Also al jazeera (i know, i know - but many here in cluding hedge i believe will vouch for its info) has done numerous pieces on it. 

[haider]

it's pointless to argue- before you can accept any evidence of the day you'd have to accept the fact that governments have done self-attacks in the past.  And most people aren't ready for that, much less going beyond that.  I would encourage you to talk to people from both sides of the debate.  Ignore anyone who blindly supports anything bush says, and ignore anyone who hates everything Bush does.  Look at the evidence of the day and enjoy what you find.

Do you realise that I agree with most of what you're saying? I jsut think its a little over the top when u try to argue excessively. Not every fact that is uncovered is evidence for explosives being present inside the to towers. Something as easily explained as human remains being found at the top of other buildings doesnt do anything to support your argument. Ofcourse what you can legitimately argue in this case is that the buildings could not have fallen as a result of a plane crashing into it. That is where u may have the upper hand in the argument.

[240 is Back]

ahh.  well, I'm not trying to convert folks anymore.  They can make their own judgments based upon the evidence.

There were explosions when the planes hit, then there were tremendous explosions when the buildings collapsed.  The bodyparts could have come from either.  But I think statistically, the entire contents of the building being vaporized and spit outward are more likely to rain bodyparts than the initial crashes in which the planes were engulfed by the building.

It's all good.   CNN/CBS show that between 11 and 16% of the US population believes the official story.  84 to 89% of people believe the govt is hiding something.  Usually, you don't hide evidence of a crime unless you were instrumental in that crime being carried out...

[Dos Equis]

Thats why it's on the front page of every newspaper in the world ? Don't you think if that was the case the Liberal press would have been all over it?

Cannot.  CIA controls the media. 

[240 is Back]

Cannot.  CIA controls the media. 

I know you're being jokingly facetious.  But the former head of the CIA Woosley admits that the CIA has strong influence over what is played in major media outlets. 

[Dos Equis]

I know you're being jokingly facetious.  But the former head of the CIA Woosley admits that the CIA has strong influence over what is played in major media outlets. 

Helllooo.  That explains why the media isn't reporting a 9/11 conspiracy.  Well, that and Bush has bribed the media (according to Jag, at least I think that's what she said).   

[240 is Back]

Helllooo.  That explains why the media isn't reporting a 9/11 conspiracy.  Well, that and Bush has bribed the media (according to Jag, at least I think that's what she said).   

It's more than 9/11.  On a regular basis, the US media does present us with stories quite different than what the rest of the world gets.  That newsweek cover (we got a fluff photographer story), the rest of the world got a piece about the reality of Afghanistan. 

Check out Euro and Au news sometimes.   Very funny to see some statements and facts, and sometimes entire stories, that we never hear.  It's done about war, it's done about the US oil manuevers, it's done about our economy, and attack like 9/11.  One example is World Trade #7 - CNN has banned its collapse being played, ever again.  They can show 1/2, but not WTC7, which many people don't know about and stands out a a building which is very structurally solid which suddenly falls into its own footprint much like a controlled demolition.

It is what it is.

[haider]

ahh.  well, I'm not trying to convert folks anymore.  They can make their own judgments based upon the evidence.

There were explosions when the planes hit, then there were tremendous explosions when the buildings collapsed.  The bodyparts could have come from either.  But I think statistically, the entire contents of the building being vaporized and spit outward are more likely to rain bodyparts than the initial crashes in which the planes were engulfed by the building.

It's all good.   CNN/CBS show that between 11 and 16% of the US population believes the official story.  84 to 89% of people believe the govt is hiding something.  Usually, you don't hide evidence of a crime unless you were instrumental in that crime being carried out...

dude, do ou get enough sleep?

[240 is Back]

dude, do ou get enough sleep?

Nope.  But those poll numbers are real, nonetheless.  Done October 8-11 of this year, I believe.

[Dos Equis]

It's more than 9/11.  On a regular basis, the US media does present us with stories quite different than what the rest of the world gets.  That newsweek cover (we got a fluff photographer story), the rest of the world got a piece about the reality of Afghanistan. 

Check out Euro and Au news sometimes.   Very funny to see some statements and facts, and sometimes entire stories, that we never hear.  It's done about war, it's done about the US oil manuevers, it's done about our economy, and attack like 9/11.  One example is World Trade #7 - CNN has banned its collapse being played, ever again.  They can show 1/2, but not WTC7, which many people don't know about and stands out a a building which is very structurally solid which suddenly falls into its own footprint much like a controlled demolition.

It is what it is.

What's really scary is how the CIA and Bush have even intimidated and controlled the tabloid media.  Even the National Enquirer won't touch this stuff.  Or maybe they've been paid off by Bush too . . . .