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« on: October 23, 2006, 09:55:09 PM »

When in doubt, just cover your ass with candy bowl of positions.  The last couple days I've seen headlines directly conflict with what the Bush Admin headlines said only hours or days before... All these headlines are from the last couple days... Roll Eyes  Righty A. will be able to tell his listeners, "Bush is standing his ground and staying the course as I've said is right all along...."  Righty B. will be able to say, "Bush is adapting to changing dynamics in the war on terror which always requires new strategy changes as I've said is right all along..." Roll Eyes  Come get your customized Bush.... Step right up... Step right up Grin

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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2006, 10:20:10 PM »

Your as Liberal as the day is long.......go hug a tree!
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2006, 10:29:05 PM »

Your as Liberal as the day is long.......go hug a tree!
This is why we keep getting into it Mr. Int...  You rarely have something of substance to refute points made and most often resort to just being a smart ass which in turn has me stirring up some photoshop owning...  Not tonight, just say something worth a shit or shut your fucking tiny mouth ok Grin  And please for the love of Tardia, learn the difference between your and you're...
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2006, 11:01:33 PM »

BERSERKER =

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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2006, 11:24:05 PM »



Wow, this thread must have really disturbed you?  Upset bush has led to the coining of the phase "triplespeak"  Grin  You so often resort to spamming a thread with your bullshit exactly because you most often don't have anything else to use...  Wrong wrong wrong is all you and your fuckbuddy Rush ever are Cool  Gee, I think the last time you had a thought of your own on here, you were telling me some shit about how America owes Israel.  I remember how well that went for you Grin
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2006, 11:31:22 PM »

It's the tabloid rule of reporting. Have 2 newspaper runs with a high profile guy on trial on the cover.

One run says "Innocent" emblazoned across his face while the other says "Guilty".

Stock newstand with both copies, ...and whichever cover sells the most papers, ...that's the angle they go with, ...truth be damned. It's about sellling papers. The challenge however when it's the politicians sending out mixed signals, is that the public assumes his policies and/or agenda is wise, since most people block out what they don't want to hear. They assume, s/he agrees with them and their particular views and will vote accordingly, ...when in reality, the politician is gonna do whatever his elite handlers instruct him to do, regardless of the will of the people. He can always create/invent a crisis to bring sheeple on board, ...no matter how half-assed and ship shod. The sheeple will buy it is their scared enough.

I don't even know why they bother putting forth campaign platforms anyway. It's not like people's votes count for anything when the vote machines are rigged.
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2006, 11:42:29 PM »

It's the tabloid rule of reporting. Have 2 newspaper runs with a high profile guy on trial on the cover.

One run says "Innocent" emblazoned across his face while the other says "Guilty".

Stock newstand with both copies, ...and whichever cover sells the most papers, ...that's the angle they go with, ...truth be damned. It's about sellling papers. The challenge however when it's the politicians sending out mixed signals, is that the public assumes his policies and/or agenda is wise, since most people block out what they don't want to hear. They assume, s/he agrees with them and their particular views and will vote accordingly, ...when in reality, the politician is gonna do whatever his elite handlers instruct him to do, regardless of the will of the people. He can always create/invent a crisis to bring sheeple on board, ...no matter how half-assed and ship shod. The sheeple will buy it is their scared enough.

I don't even know why they bother putting forth campaign platforms anyway. It's not like people's votes count for anything when the vote machines are rigged.

Well that certainly explains why Bush would be all over the place with his Iraq War Policy but how do these aspects weigh with Mr. Intenseone's all wise rebuttal of, "go hug a tree"  Grin I mean that's a strong argument Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2006, 09:16:32 PM »

President Bush said Monday that "terrorists win and America loses" if democrats win in the election... Roll Eyes Holy Crap Angry that mean Democrats are helping the terrorists and subject to unlawful combatant status...  OFF TO GITMO WITH THEM Tongue

Bush...... really.... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2006, 09:23:15 PM »

President Bush said Monday that "terrorists win and America loses" if democrats win in the election... Roll Eyes Holy Crap Angry that mean Democrats are helping the terrorists and subject to unlawful combatant status...  OFF TO GITMO WITH THEM Tongue

Bush...... really.... Roll Eyes

Yes, thats exactly what it means....like Rush, Bush is right!
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2006, 10:36:32 PM »

Yes, thats exactly what it means....like Rush, Bush is right!
So you're sayin all USHs are retards Wink
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2006, 11:23:31 PM »

buut...bu..buut i thought the muslims did it? Angry



no wait...its the ISLAMists...no wait..the radical ISLAMists...or extremist MUSLIMs




...who needs the republicans if we aren't fighting a war to the death eh....if all were honky dory the dems would win


cant have that..now can we...

why exactly do ya think osama is still alive?  GASP you mean the US that took Saddam down in a WEEK cant get 1 man...ohhh no...we can take a picture of a humming birds dick out from space but we cant get osama and dunno where he is...riiiiight Undecided


its like when Leee preist posts and says he spends a total of $1000 on contest prep... Undecided
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2006, 11:29:28 PM »

where's the picture of the hummingbird's dick?

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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2006, 11:31:37 PM »

where's the picture of the hummingbird's dick?



google your own masturbatory pix..k bud..
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2006, 11:43:14 PM »

google your own masturbatory pix..k bud..
Ooooooh  I have to admit this is a good owning.... OH HOHHhhah Just kidding AlGebra... I'm running I'm running Grin Don't shoot! Don't Shoot!!!
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2006, 03:05:33 AM »

BINGO.... Colbert pointed this same thing out tonight... Grin
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2006, 03:41:04 AM »

Your as Liberal as the day is long.......go hug a tree!

  You're as radical Republican as the day is long..

   Go put some people out of a job and pound your bible.
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2006, 09:43:25 PM »

An internal ABC Radio Networks memo obtained by Media Matters for America, originally from a listener to The Peter B. Collins Show, indicates that nearly 100 ABC advertisers insist that their commercials be blacked out on Air America Radio affiliates. According to the memo, the adverstisers insist that "NONE of their commercials air during AIR AMERICA programming." Among the advertisers listed are Bank of America, Exxon Mobil, Federal Express, General Electric, McDonald's, Microsoft, Wal-Mart, and the U.S. Navy…

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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2006, 09:44:29 PM »

Air America Radio files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy - Yahoo! News

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Air America Radio, the liberal news and talk radio network whose on-air talent features comedian and author        Al Franken, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on Friday after talks with a creditor broke down.

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The network said it plans to stay on the air while it reorganizes. In a filing with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Manhattan, Air America said it lost about $40.9 million since the spring of 2004, including $13.1 million so far in 2006.

"This regrettable action became necessary only recently when good-faith efforts to resolve outstanding debt with a creditor from the company's earliest days broke down," Air America said.

Air America declined to name the creditor. In a court filing, it said MultiCultural Radio Broadcasting Inc., which claims to be owed $550,000, last month blocked the radio network from drawing operating cash from its bank accounts.

Air America launched in March 2004 with programming to counter-balance politically conservative shows by nationally syndicated hosts like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.

The New York-based company said it has 4 million listeners, and its lineup includes such on-air personalities as Robert Kennedy Jr. and Randi Rhodes. Air America also syndicates a radio show from television host Jerry Springer.

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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2006, 09:56:52 PM »



Seeing how Rush just gave the Dems their first real solid wedge issue, I wonder if Cons are calling him and saying,... STFU... THANKS RUSH!!! Grin You're foot in mouth is a genuine gift to Dems. Wink
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2006, 10:01:17 PM »

great source libs!!!




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mr.I xoxoxoxoxoxo  Grin
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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2006, 10:07:29 PM »

I see he's MIA after being challenged... I'm getting used to his drop a one liner and run tactics...
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2006, 10:18:34 PM »

If Int traitors would stop covering for criminals Kiss

Recipe for a Cooked Election


A nasty little secret of American democracy is that, in every national election, ballots cast are simply thrown in the garbage. Most are called “spoiled,” supposedly unreadable, damaged, invalid. They just don’t get counted. This “spoilage” has occurred for decades, but it reached unprecedented heights in the last two presidential elections. In the 2004 election, for example, more than three million ballots were never counted.

Almost as deep a secret is that people are doing something about it. In New Mexico, citizen activists, disgusted by systematic vote disappearance, demanded change — and got it.

In Ohio, during the 2004 Presidential election, 153,237 ballots were simply thrown away — more than the Bush “victory” margin. In New Mexico the uncounted vote was five times the Bush alleged victory margin of 5,988. In Iowa, Bush’s triumph of 13,498 was overwhelmed by 36,811 votes rejected. The official number is bad enough — 1,855,827 ballots cast not counted, according to the federal government’s Elections Assistance Commission. But the feds are missing data from several cities and entire states too embarrassed to report the votes they failed to count.

Correcting for that under-reporting, the number of ballots cast but never counted goes to 3,600,380. Why doesn’t your government tell you this?

Hey, they do. It’s right there in black and white in a U.S. Census Bureau announcement released seven months after the election — in a footnote. The Census tabulation of voters voting in the 2004 presidential race “differs,” it reads, from ballots tallied by the Clerk of the House of Representatives by 3.4 million votes.

This is the hidden presidential count, which, with the exception of the Census’s whispered footnote, has not been reported. In the voting biz, most of these lost votes are called “spoilage.” Spoilage, not the voters, picked our President for us. Unfortunately, that’s not all. In addition to the three million ballots uncounted due to technical “glitches,” millions more were lost because the voters were prevented from casting their ballots in the first place. This group of un-votes includes voters illegally denied registration or wrongly purged from the registries.

Joe Stalin, the story goes, said, “It’s not the people who vote that count; it’s the people who count the votes.” That may have been true in the old Soviet Union, but in the USA, the game is much, much subtler: He who makes sure votes don’t get counted decides our winners.

In the lead-up to the 2004 race, millions of Americans were, not unreasonably, panicked about computer voting machines. Images abounded of an evil hacker-genius in Dick Cheney’s bunker rewriting code and zapping the totals. But that’s not how it went down.

The computer scare was the McGuffin, the fake detail used by magicians to keep your eye off their hands. The principal means of the election heist - voiding ballots - went unexposed, unreported and most importantly, uncorrected and ready to roll out on a grander scale next time.

Like a forensic crime scene investigation unit, we can perform a post mortem starting with the exhumation of more than three million uncounted votes:

-Provisional Ballots Rejected. An entirely new species of ballot debuted nationwide in 2004: the “provisional ballot.” These were crucial to the Bush victory. Not because Republicans won this “provisional” vote. They won by rejecting provisional ballots that were cast overwhelmingly in Democratic precincts. The sum of “the uncounted” is astonishing: 675,676 ballots lost in the counties reporting to the federal government. Add in the missing jurisdictions and the un-vote climbs to over a million: 1,090,729 provisional ballots tossed out.

-Spoiled Ballots. You vote, you assume it’s counted. Think again. Your “x” was too light for a machine to read. You didn’t punch the card hard enough and so you “hung your chad.” Therefore, your vote didn’t count and, crucially, you’ll never know it. The federal Election Assistance Commission toted up nearly a million ballots cast but not counted. Add in states too shy to report to Washington, the total “spoilage” jumps to a rotten 1,389,231.

-Absentee Ballots Uncounted. The number of absentee ballots has quintupled in many states, with the number rejected on picayune technical grounds rising to over half a million (526,420) in 2004. In swing states, absentee ballot shredding was pandemic.

-Voters Barred from Voting. In this category we find a combination of incompetence and trickery that stops voters from pulling the lever in the first place. There’s the purge of “felon” voters that continues to eliminate thousands whose only crime is VWB - Voting While Black. It includes subtle games like eliminating polling stations in selected districts, creating impossible lines. No one can pretend to calculate a hard number for all votes lost this way any more than you can find every bullet fragment in a mutilated body. But it’s a safe bet that the numbers reach into the hundreds of thousands of voters locked out of the voting booth.


The test kitchen

But do these un-votes really turn the election? Voters from both parties used provisional or absentee ballots, and the machines can’t tell if a hanging chad is Democratic or Republican, right? Not so. To see how it works, we went to New Mexico.

Dig this: In November 2004 during early voting in Precinct 13, Taos, New Mexico, John Kerry took 73 votes. George Bush got three. On election day, 216 in that precinct voted Kerry. Bush got 25 votes, and came in third.
Third? Taking second place in the precinct, with 40 votes, was no one at all.

Or, at least, that’s what the machines said.
Precinct 13 is better known as the Taos Pueblo. Every single voter there is an American Native or married to one.

Precinct 13 wasn’t unique. On Navajo lands, indecision struck on an epidemic scale. They walked in, they didn’t vote. In nine precincts in McKinley County, New Mexico, which is 74.7 percent Navajo, fewer than one in ten voters picked a president. Those who voted on paper ballots early or absentee knew who they wanted (Kerry, overwhelmingly), but the machine-counted vote said Indians simply couldn’t make up their minds or just plain didn’t care.

On average, across the state, the machine printouts say that 7.3 percent — one in twelve voters — in majority Native precincts didn’t vote for president. That’s three times the percentage of white voters who appeared to abstain. In pueblo after pueblo, on reservation after reservation throughout the United States, the story was the same.

Nationally, one out of every 12 ballots cast by Native Americans did not contain a vote for President. Indians by the thousands drove to the voting station, walked into the booth, said, “Who cares?” and walked out without voting for president.

So we dropped in on Taos, Precinct 13. The “old” pueblo is old indeed - built 500 to 1,000 years ago. In these adobe dwellings stacked like mud condos, no electricity is allowed nor running water - nor Republicans as far as records show. Richard Archuleta, a massive man with long, gray pigtails and hands as big as flank steaks, is the head of tourism for the pueblo. Richard wasn’t buying the indecision theory of the Native non-count. Indians were worried about their Bureau of Indian Affairs grants, their gaming licenses, and working conditions at their other big employer: the U.S. military.

On the pueblo’s mud-brick walls there were several hand painted signs announcing Democratic Party powwows, none for Republicans. Indecisive? Indians are Democrats. Case closed. The color that counts It wasn’t just Native Americans who couldn’t seem to pick a President. Throughout New Mexico, indecisiveness was pandemic … at least, that is, among people of color. Or so the machines said. Across the state, high-majority Hispanic precincts recorded a 7.1 percent vote for nobody for president.

We asked Dr. Philip Klinkner, the expert who ran stats for the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, to look at the New Mexico data. His solid statistical analysis discovered that if you’re Hispanic, the chance your vote will not record on the machine was 500% higher than if you are white. For Natives, it’s off the charts. The Hispanic and Native vote is no small potatoes. Every tenth New Mexican is American Native (9.5 percent) and half the remaining population (43 percent) is Mexican-American.

Our team drove an hour across the high desert from the Taos Reservation to Espanola in Rio Arriba County. According to the official tallies, entire precincts of Mexican-Americans registered few or zero votes for president in the last two elections. Espanola is where the Los Alamos workers live, not the Ph.D.s in the white lab coats, but the women who clean the hallways and the men who bury the toxins. This was not Bush country, and the people we met with, including the leaders of the get-out-the-vote operations, knew of no Hispanics who insisted on waiting at the polling station to cast their vote for “nobody for President.” The huge majority of Mexican- Americans, especially in New Mexico, and a crushing majority of Natives (over 90 percent), vote Democratic.

What if those voters weren’t indecisive; what if they punched in a choice and it didn’t record? Let’s do the arithmetic. As minority voters cast 89 percent of the state’s 21,084 blank ballots, that’s 18,765 missing minority votes. Given the preferences of other voters in those pueblos and barrios, those 18,765 voters of color should have swamped Bush’s 5,988 vote “majority” with Kerry votes. But that would have required those votes be counted.

The voting-industrial complex

New Mexico’s Secretary of State, Rebecca Vigil-Giron, seemed curiously uncurious about Hispanic and Native precincts where nearly one in ten voters couldn’t be bothered to choose a president.

Vigil-Giron, along with Governor Bill Richardson, not only stopped any attempt at a recount directly following the election, but demanded that all the machines be wiped clean. This not only concealed evidence of potential fraud but destroyed it. In 2006, New Mexico’s Supreme Court ruled the Secretary of State’s machine-cleaning job illegal — too late to change the outcome of the election, of course.

But who are we to second-guess Secretary Vigil-Giron? After all, she is a big shot, at the time president, no less, of the National Association of Secretaries of State, the top banana of all our nation’s elections officials.

Vigil-Giron, after putting a stop to the recount, rather than schlep out to investigate the missing vote among the iguanas and Navajos, left the state to officiate at a dinner meeting in Minneapolis for her national association. It was held on a dinner boat. The tab for the moonlight ride was picked up by touch-screen voting machine maker ES&S Corporation. Breakfast, in case you’re curious, was served by touchscreen maker Diebold Corp.

At the time of this writing, Vigil-Giron is busy planning the next big confab of vendors and state officials — this time in Santa Fe, “the city different.” But aside from Wal-Mart signing on as a sponsor, nothing much is different when it comes to the inner workings of the voting industrial complex.

Except for one thing.

Where’s the action?

While Vigil-Giron is greeting her fellow Secretaries and casually introducing them to this year’s vendors, it is likely she’ll keep quiet about a few things. Voter Action, a group of motivated citizens, some jumping into activism for the first time, sued the state of New Mexico in 2005 over the bad machines and the failure to count the vote. The activists ran a public campaign with their revelations about New Mexico’s broken democracy. Last year, Voter Action invited our investigations team to lay out our findings to huge citizens’ meetings in Albuquerque and Santa Fe. Soon, the whole horrid vote-losing game was on local community radio and TV stations. It worked.

Governor Richardson, who ducked the issue for three years, and his Secretary of State, once openly hostile to reform, had to relent in the face of the public uprising. In February of 2006, Richardson signed a model law requiring that all voting in the state take place on new paper ballot machines, with verifiable tabulating systems. Richardson now claims the mantle of leader of the voting reform campaign.

Voter Action, successful in New Mexico, is now pursuing lawsuits in seven states to stop the Secretaries of State from purchasing electronic voting systems which have records of inaccuracy, security risks, and have been proven unreliable.

In New Mexico we learned, once again, that the price of liberty is eternal vigilance. To protect your right to vote, you must know what is happening in your state - before, during, and after Election Day - and be willing to hold your leaders accountable.


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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2006, 10:28:08 PM »

Gee, I believe Mr. Intenseone would have to call this Dick a traitor and ask him to leave the country Roll Eyes

Dick Cheney more than a decade ago defended the decision to leave Saddam Hussein in power after the first Gulf War, telling a Seattle audience that capturing Saddam wouldn't be worth additional U.S. casualties or the risk of getting "bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq."
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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2006, 10:30:38 PM »

what did i tell you about long friggin posts?
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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2006, 11:01:34 PM »

"I'll tell you, he was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999," Herskowitz told Baker. "One of the things he said to me, is 'One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.' And he said, 'My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of [Kuwait] and he wasted it.'"



"I'm a war president. I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with war on my mind,"--G W Bush

Mr. "Smoke 'em out." Mr. "Bring 'em on." Mr. Top Gun, who pulled that stunt landing on the aircraft carrier, strutting for the cameras under a White House banner declaring: "Mission Accomplished."

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