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« on: October 24, 2006, 09:55:14 AM »
Here's some news in regards to the threat the free world is under from islam.

For starters, here's an interview with Robert Spencer, very intelligent fellow who's family come from the islamic world:

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/44498.aspx

I'd love for this fellow to have a debate with Mr. Blair on the issues regarding islam in the west and their lack of integration and respect for the west's core values (freedom of speech).

2 Bali bombers freed: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20636486-952,00.html

Any aussies in the house? Does this digust you as much as it does me? Apparently the lives of Aussies, British, Americans and other "infidels" aren't worth JACK! >:(

Next... right from my neck of the woods, where I was born:

http://m0nby.wordpress.com/2006/10/21/manchesters-muslims-cant-get-arrested/

Hmm immunity because of the holy month? Does this mean Christians can do whatever they want during Christmas and Easter? This makes me SICK to my stomach, more so because it is my home city and I know just where it is heading... DOWN THE SHITTER! :-[

Paris will be the first city under Sharia law in Europe:
http://www.theage.com.au/guy-bus-alight-in-Paris/2006/10/23/1161455635343.html

Manchester/London/Bradford/Leicester might be the next to follow suit! >:(

Doing what pigs do best:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2417748,00.html#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=World

Have a nice Eid everyone: http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD133306
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2006, 11:53:51 AM »
one can only hope that the people of these nations will rise up and face the threat and will not allow things like 'paris becoming first city under sharia law'.
that would be an incredible loss. however i dont think it will come to this. i read yet another article the other day about how gangs of 'youths' ::) were causing havoc again in paris. but for everything they do, the far right gains support as well.

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2006, 11:57:23 AM »
one can only hope that the people of these nations will rise up and face the threat and will not allow things like 'paris becoming first city under sharia law'.
that would be an incredible loss. however i dont think it will come to this. i read yet another article the other day about how gangs of 'youths' ::) were causing havoc again in paris. but for everything they do, the far right gains support as well.

IMO I really think it is coming to an end for Britain and France, I can't see anything happening, the whole socialist politically correct ecosystem in Europe would have to be abolished for these countries to fight the threat of islamists.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2006, 12:23:22 PM »
IMO I really think it is coming to an end for Britain and France, I can't see anything happening, the whole socialist politically correct ecosystem in Europe would have to be abolished for these countries to fight the threat of islamists.
do you live there? what is the general attitude of the people towards the 'muslim situation'? i would love to know. especially in france, where they seem to be on a rampage and still the newspaper wount call them anything but 'youths'. are they French youths? ::)
all i know is that if a bunch of mussies were rioting and causing shit here in texas we would have had them running for their lives by now.

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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2006, 12:46:48 PM »
I live in England, most people I know are really pissed off. The media portrays it all happily tho, esp BBC. They will only ever interview people with pro-islamic views etc etc... Islam is beyond criticism in England, they are beyond the law too during their "holy month" as you can read about in the article I posted about about the police in manchester.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2006, 12:52:51 PM »
thats really too bad. churchill must be rolling in his grave...

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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2006, 02:39:04 PM »
Check this, these third world muzzie pigs think it's acceptable to have slaves, check this out:

"Egyptians who enslaved girl, 10, get U.S. prison"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061023/us_nm/crime_slavery_dc_1

Here the koran justifys slavery:
33:50 - "Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives to whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty."

The Quran in Sura 23:5-6 says:

5 [Most certainly true believers] . . . guard their private parts scrupulously, 6 except with regard to their wives and those who are legally in their possession, for in that case they shall not be blameworthy. (Sayyid Abul A’La Maududi, The Meaning of the Quran, vol. 3, p. 237)

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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2006, 02:47:07 PM »
It will take another huge terrorist attack to wake people up.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2006, 03:02:56 PM »
It will take another huge terrorist attack to wake people up.

That WILL happen soon enough... but I garauntee it still won't wake people up, especially those running socialist Europe.
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2006, 02:54:24 AM »
It's only a matter of time before something catastrophic happens in Britain with terrorism.

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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2006, 03:09:08 AM »
It's only a matter of time before something catastrophic happens in Britain with terrorism.

London bombings not enough for you? Didn't the london bombings step on your toes and insult you enough?
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2006, 03:28:03 AM »
No, I'm just saying it's going to happen again. The London bombings weren't good enough for some Muslims - they want more than that.

I'm telling you, some of these people won't be happy until the whole of Britain is Islamic. I've never known a religion to push it's views on non-believers like the way they do.

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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2006, 03:38:27 AM »
I'm telling you, some of these people won't be happy until the whole of Britain is Islamic. I've never known a religion to push it's views on non-believers like the way they do.

Hmm, do you actually know of my history on Getbig? I've been beating that drum for quite a while brother!
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2006, 07:05:11 AM »
It seems that Europeans have a myopic view on this. In a lot of ways they are probably affected more (on a daily basis) by fundamentalist Muslims because they are pretty liberal as a country. Here, we have fundamentalist Christians who are just as inflexible on the extreme as fundamentalist Muslims are. In a lot of ways I have a hard time appreciating any significant difference between the two, beyond suicide bombings. Another difference here is that Jews, for instance are not allowed to prostelitize(sp.?) and people cannot convert to Hindu, so even though those groups are pretty restrictive, there really aren't a lot of accomodations we end up making for them. People in NYC would probably feel different, LOL! We're a much bigger country so it will take us a lot longer to notice any change.

As far as quoting a few snippets from the Holy Quoran to show Muslims being evil, polygamous ant pissing in ear heathens goes... You could find just as much odd stuff in the Old Testament about polygamy, mixing with people from other tribes, God being vengeful, etc.... Obviously, people are going to post whatever snippet suits their agenda, it's the internet. That being said, I never know if it's just people being inflammatory, ignorant or fishing for a response. So, it's hard to gauge what effect stupid statements have on the thought process of someone who is uneducated or has never traveled.

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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2006, 07:28:11 AM »
It will take another huge terrorist attack to wake people up.
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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2006, 08:02:01 AM »
It seems that Europeans have a myopic view on this. In a lot of ways they are probably affected more (on a daily basis) by fundamentalist Muslims because they are pretty liberal as a country. Here, we have fundamentalist Christians who are just as inflexible on the extreme as fundamentalist Muslims are. In a lot of ways I have a hard time appreciating any significant difference between the two, beyond suicide bombings. Another difference here is that Jews, for instance are not allowed to prostelitize(sp.?) and people cannot convert to Hindu, so even though those groups are pretty restrictive, there really aren't a lot of accomodations we end up making for them. People in NYC would probably feel different, LOL! We're a much bigger country so it will take us a lot longer to notice any change.

As far as quoting a few snippets from the Holy Quoran to show Muslims being evil, polygamous ant pissing in ear heathens goes... You could find just as much odd stuff in the Old Testament about polygamy, mixing with people from other tribes, God being vengeful, etc.... Obviously, people are going to post whatever snippet suits their agenda, it's the internet. That being said, I never know if it's just people being inflammatory, ignorant or fishing for a response. So, it's hard to gauge what effect stupid statements have on the thought process of someone who is uneducated or has never traveled.

So what you're saying is:

Fundi Christians == Fundi Muslims?

Sorry, you're dead wrong. I have to call you an idiot for your generalisation in your post.

Quote me in the Bible where Jesus murdered, molested and was a militant.

Show me how the Christian countries of the west have supressed people based on faith ala islamic states.

Do you have any experience with dealing with muslims, muslims that are so called "moderates"? I do on a daily basis, my opinion carries more weight that your liberal apologist harmoneous view of them.
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2006, 08:21:25 AM »
Religion divides people, belief in something unites them

Ban all religion (starting with islam), its the only way!

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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2006, 08:29:49 AM »
So what you're saying is:

Fundi Christians == Fundi Muslims?

Sorry, you're dead wrong. I have to call you an idiot for your generalisation in your post.

Quote me in the Bible where Jesus murdered, molested and was a militant.

Show me how the Christian countries of the west have supressed people based on faith ala islamic states.

Do you have any experience with dealing with muslims, muslims that are so called "moderates"? I do on a daily basis, my opinion carries more weight that your liberal apologist harmoneous view of them.

The similarities and literal interpretation of sacred texts are very close.

The bible contains characters and stories other than Jesus. There are plenty of examples in the OT of Israelites grabbing land, putting people to the sword, etc... Also, parables like Noah's ark where all the non-believers drowned, Sodom and Gamorha (sp?) where people, especially Lot's wife, were turned into pillars of salt.

Have you forgotten the crusades? Also supressing people by offering food/land/status for changing religions is at least similar. True it's not the same as killing someone for converting. Abraham, for example if you believe the Bible, had Ishmael with Hagar because he listened to Sarah (not God). Then when Issac was born she didn't want his oldest (entitled by Jewish law) to inherit so she bitched and moaned until he sent his oldest son away.

Most of the Muslims I hang with aren't really religious. Sure I know a few who are devout but don't hang with them , or anyone else, too much.

You should come up with something more creative than liberal apologist as an insult. The terms don't mean exactly the same thing here.

Besides, I wasn't really making a sweeping point. I was just musing about the extent to which rhetoric affects the typical reader. It's a legit question and I'm intellectually curious. A lot of the arguements are quite inflammatory, yes a lot of them are bullshit but they're more exciting than plain/straight talk. I just wonder if not being able to hear a level discussion about a topic affects people's perceptions about world issues in the same way too much porn affects the way people view relationships/sex.

In this matter, my mind isn't made up yet. Somtimes it seems that Europe showed way too much flexibility and made so many accomodations that immigrants felt no need to integrate fully into society. We have a similar thing here with a lot of immigrants refusing to speak fkn' English (before you start, I know damn well we really speak American, LOL!). Now the bastiges expect us to learn spanish!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2006, 08:34:19 AM »
It seems that Europeans have a myopic view on this. In a lot of ways they are probably affected more (on a daily basis) by fundamentalist Muslims because they are pretty liberal as a country. Here, we have fundamentalist Christians who are just as inflexible on the extreme as fundamentalist Muslims are. In a lot of ways I have a hard time appreciating any significant difference between the two, beyond suicide bombings. Another difference here is that Jews, for instance are not allowed to prostelitize(sp.?) and people cannot convert to Hindu, so even though those groups are pretty restrictive, there really aren't a lot of accomodations we end up making for them. People in NYC would probably feel different, LOL! We're a much bigger country so it will take us a lot longer to notice any change.

As far as quoting a few snippets from the Holy Quoran to show Muslims being evil, polygamous ant pissing in ear heathens goes... You could find just as much odd stuff in the Old Testament about polygamy, mixing with people from other tribes, God being vengeful, etc.... Obviously, people are going to post whatever snippet suits their agenda, it's the internet. That being said, I never know if it's just people being inflammatory, ignorant or fishing for a response. So, it's hard to gauge what effect stupid statements have on the thought process of someone who is uneducated or has never traveled.
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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2006, 10:10:12 AM »
The similarities and literal interpretation of sacred texts are very close.

The bible contains characters and stories other than Jesus. There are plenty of examples in the OT of Israelites grabbing land, putting people to the sword, etc... Also, parables like Noah's ark where all the non-believers drowned, Sodom and Gamorha (sp?) where people, especially Lot's wife, were turned into pillars of salt.

Have you forgotten the crusades? Also supressing people by offering food/land/status for changing religions is at least similar. True it's not the same as killing someone for converting. Abraham, for example if you believe the Bible, had Ishmael with Hagar because he listened to Sarah (not God). Then when Issac was born she didn't want his oldest (entitled by Jewish law) to inherit so she bitched and moaned until he sent his oldest son away.

Most of the Muslims I hang with aren't really religious. Sure I know a few who are devout but don't hang with them , or anyone else, too much.

You should come up with something more creative than liberal apologist as an insult. The terms don't mean exactly the same thing here.

Besides, I wasn't really making a sweeping point. I was just musing about the extent to which rhetoric affects the typical reader. It's a legit question and I'm intellectually curious. A lot of the arguements are quite inflammatory, yes a lot of them are bullshit but they're more exciting than plain/straight talk. I just wonder if not being able to hear a level discussion about a topic affects people's perceptions about world issues in the same way too much porn affects the way people view relationships/sex.

In this matter, my mind isn't made up yet. Somtimes it seems that Europe showed way too much flexibility and made so many accomodations that immigrants felt no need to integrate fully into society. We have a similar thing here with a lot of immigrants refusing to speak fkn' English (before you start, I know damn well we really speak American, LOL!). Now the bastiges expect us to learn spanish!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not realigious at all.

Do you know why the crusades happened? I bet you don't believe it had anything with islam spreading to the holy land by sword? Just because your liberal educational system has told you otherwise don't project your information regarding the crusades as fact to others.

Oh and why do I bother to put the current issues with Europe in the context of the modern world? Because YOU by mentioning the crusades and using it as part of your arguement have not stuck to doing so, maybe I should just bring up evidence showing European prosperities from 200 years again when the world was controlled by Europeans, and by Europeans I mean native Europeans. Is this enough evidence to show that we should remove all non-native Europeans from European society and return to the glory years?

You my friend are idiotic in the subject of European politics. Everything might seem clear, and you opinions might seem valid in your own head, but when debating with people who have first hand experience and knowledge in the subject you will continue to get owned.
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2006, 11:33:33 AM »
I'm not realigious at all.

Do you know why the crusades happened? I bet you don't believe it had anything with islam spreading to the holy land by sword? Just because your liberal educational system has told you otherwise don't project your information regarding the crusades as fact to others.

Oh and why do I bother to put the current issues with Europe in the context of the modern world? Because YOU by mentioning the crusades and using it as part of your arguement have not stuck to doing so, maybe I should just bring up evidence showing European prosperities from 200 years again when the world was controlled by Europeans, and by Europeans I mean native Europeans. Is this enough evidence to show that we should remove all non-native Europeans from European society and return to the glory years?

You my friend are idiotic in the subject of European politics. Everything might seem clear, and you opinions might seem valid in your own head, but when debating with people who have first hand experience and knowledge in the subject you will continue to get owned.

That's why I suggested Bush invade Europe. Given a year or three..... he'd kill them all. Then you'd have Europe for Europeans. :)

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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2006, 12:52:14 PM »
I'm not realigious at all.


Oh and why do I bother to put the current issues with Europe in the context of the modern world? Because YOU by mentioning the crusades and using it as part of your arguement have not stuck to doing so, maybe I should just bring up evidence showing European prosperities from 200 years again when the world was controlled by Europeans, and by Europeans I mean native Europeans. Is this enough evidence to show that we should remove all non-native Europeans from European society and return to the glory years?

You my friend are idiotic in the subject of European politics. Everything might seem clear, and you opinions might seem valid in your own head, but when debating with people who have first hand experience and knowledge in the subject you will continue to get owned.

The glory days of Europe were a time when Europe stole and murdered other people, wow that's something to be proud of.  ::)
You act as though Europe is down the drain, when it clearly is NOT. Although second rate to the United States, Europe countries are still amongst the leaders in the civilized world.

The United States has a high rate of immigration, yet it is not experiencing the same problems. I do not see alarmingly high rates of crime and unemployment for muslims in the United States, maybe Europe should follow the US' example and better integrate its immigrants or cease immigration all together. You can maybe compare the US' problems with illegal hispanic immigrants with Europe's muslim problem, yet the there aren't many similarities.

Don't flare out so much anger on an internet forum, you really have your own people to blame. You claim Europeans and westerners in general are this and that, yet so many of the people on this forum display down right racist behavior and ignorance. The funny thing is that the members of this forum who are of muslim and non-western backgrounds actually behave in a much more civilized manner than people of western backgrounds. You, Al-Dipshit and other dumbasses can talk all you want, but you know it's true..

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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2006, 01:05:13 PM »
Yeah Europeans have nothing to be proud of ::)

Stole and murdered? You have a warped vision of European history.

We didn't happen to have huge advancements in technology that no other nation is in a position to duplicate right?

We didn't bring the world the social sciences, modern goverment, the theories surrounding gravity and evolution? Oh no ::)

Who ever educated you in the history of Europe (doubt you actually got any real info regarding Europe other from bitter idiots) totally warped your view... how islamic!

Europeans ARE the reason for its demise - I don't dispute that - read my earlier posts. Promoters of socialism are the real culprits.

Oh, and I think you'll find Britain alone had more immigrants than the US last year brother! Now, I know you're probably not educated to a degree that allows you to recall the size differences of our two nations, so get out a world globe, Britain is east of the US see: http://www.dingdots.com/images/world-globe.gif

Now tell me brother, *oh so wise* in the politics and immigration of Europe, how can it possibly be healthy for a nation as TINY as britain to have MORE immigrants than the US?
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2006, 06:57:40 PM »



Europeans ARE the reason for its demise - I don't dispute that - read my earlier posts. Promoters of socialism are the real culprits.


Now tell me brother, *oh so wise* in the politics and immigration of Europe, how can it possibly be healthy for a nation as TINY as britain to have MORE immigrants than the US?


I don't deny what Europe has contributed to mankind. I'm a big fan of British music myself.

You made my point for me, bro. You just said Europe is to blame for its own demise, so why don't you grab a gun and do in Tony Blair and others members of his labor party. Instead of having the testes to protest your government's policies, you litter an internet forum with bullshit. It's still the same old muzzy this, muzzy that.   ::)



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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2006, 03:19:25 AM »

I don't deny what Europe has contributed to mankind. I'm a big fan of British music myself.

You made my point for me, bro. You just said Europe is to blame for its own demise, so why don't you grab a gun and do in Tony Blair and others members of his labor party. Instead of having the testes to protest your government's policies, you litter an internet forum with bullshit. It's still the same old muzzy this, muzzy that.   ::)

You're hardly making a point if you're just iterating what I've alread said... :-\

And of all the advancements Britain has made you chose its music... ::) Speaks volumes about you brother! You had the choice of our scienctists, computer theorists etc but you chose the fucking Beatles? :-X

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