why do 99 % percent of pro bb without children/family?

[Tom]

just wondering this why 99 percent of all pro bb dont' have children, for those few that are married? i'm not talking just about cutler,coleman, and the top 10 pros in the world, i'm talking even within the top 50 pros in the world.

reasons 1) pro bb is about me, me,me 2) not enough money to support a family unless you are a top 10 pro 3) not enough time to care and pay attention to 1 baby/child, much less more 4) perhaps certain side effects have left most of the pro's how should i say incapable of fathering children in the first place

i only know of dugdal and rusty jeffers who have kids, and i'm not even going to go with jeffers and his how should i say past and what he will tell his kids when they grown up, how daddy had another name he used  and what daddy used to do for money! laugh

oh yeah, how come most of the pros women whether they are married or just thier girlfriends are not very attractive, gunter's new woman kim lyons being a very sole exception!

[Victor VonDoom]

You appear eager to ask and answer your own questions.  Bah! 

Doom disapproves.

[Blockhead]

 Cormier got kids...he got 'Bebe's Kids!'. He found a way to get baby momma drama so...

[Shawn Ray]

Like alot of "Career" minded people, the job and focus is way too over powering to consider "Sharing" and "Dividing" the attention to detail that comes with trying to be the best you can be.
That being said, there are exceptions, as in other professions but they are far and few between usually winding up in Divorce Court.
Reason being the sport is very Selfish and time consuming with regard to Personal needs.
I chose to wait due to Travel, Training and Singleminded Personal Goals.
5 years later in hindsight, i think it was the best choice I could make while on the other hand a guy like Mark Dugdale might say, the Marriage and Family were the Balance his life was missing and the timing while still competing was the best thing that could have happend to him.
Different Strokes ya'll.

[Jr. Yates]

I think it must be the hardest thing, Pro bbing and supporting a family at the same time. I wouldn't want to go through my childhood with my dad as a pro. He'd have to sit every 2 and half hours to eat, he'd never be home, People would be trashing him. 

[Jr. Yates]

Shawn, enlighten me...

Did you pull a lot of quality babes back in the day?  You had the look at the style.  Speak on this.

didn't he date brooke burke! my god she is incredably hot.

[anvil]

Cormier got kids...he got 'Bebe's Kids!'. He found a way to get baby momma drama so...

Block, ya gotta give us one of your patented Cormier cell phone conversations.  "Baby boo, etc."  LMAO

[knny187]

Like alot of "Career" minded people, the job and focus is way too over powering to consider "Sharing" and "Dividing" the attention to detail that comes with trying to be the best you can be.
That being said, there are exceptions, as in other professions but they are far and few between usually winding up in Divorce Court.
Reason being the sport is very Selfish and time consuming with regard to Personal needs.
I chose to wait due to Travel, Training and Singleminded Personal Goals.
5 years later in hindsight, i think it was the best choice I could make while on the other hand a guy like Mark Dugdale might say, the Marriage and Family were the Balance his life was missing and the timing while still competing was the best thing that could have happend to him.
Different Strokes ya'll.

I was going to say the same thing.

Most people that are self absorbed...really don't want attention being focused somewhere else.

[McFarland]

Does Darrem Charles have kids?  

[luv2build]

Has it ever occurred to you that not every single person on the planet wants kids?  i am not saying every pro.  but i can guarantee you there are some that just don't want kids.

[mwbbuilder]

I could see it.  People make fun of Shawn's height, but he's still taller than most girls, and from my experience (also being a medium height dude @ 5'9), that's pretty much all girls really want.  I couldn't see a 6'1 and 1/2 Paul Dillett getting more babes than Shawn.

Matt,

You are obsessed with which guys get the girls.  Why is that?

Don't cha have any game?

[Blockhead]

 What Shawn says is true. Let's examine TheBlockHead for a second...bare with me people it's to shine more light on Shawns theory.

 TheBlockHead Himslef has only done 3 shows but has been living the lifestyle to it's fullest for the past 5 years. I mean to the FULLEST. My life revolves around my protein consumption and being in a positive nitrogen balance. I will never go pro nor would I ever imagine doing so...I just love this stuff and have fun prepping for a show and prepping others. ALL my money after important stuff is out of the way goes to groceries, and eating out constantly. Just last week...I bought a Swiss Army Watch...set me back about $80 and I had buyers remorse for about 2 days all over a punk ass watch...because I started to believe that $80 could have bought me a weeks worth of red meat and chicken breast and bag of potatoes and I almost brought it back.

 I've been married a little over a year now and the #1 subject of fights between TheBlockHead and Mrs.Blockhead has to do with me never being home(training, tanning, training someone els, meeting up w/ someone els I'm prepping to see their progress for an upcomming show, picking up and dropping off and slingin gear, grocery shopping, eating out somewhere etc...) and my INABILITY to 'give and take' and compromise. NEVER, not even once in a while take another day off from the gym to do something with her...if there is a family function...I will absolutley REFUSE to go and Mrs. BlockHead is flying solo because "they" will only have hotdogs and hamburgers and beer over there...PLUS...I gotta meet so and so at the gym..."they're 3 weeks out...he/she needs me!"

 When I am off work...I refuse to do ANYTHING outside my norm of pickup/deliveries, train, nap, tan, cook, eat, nap and be a slug on the couch or bedroom because..."I am regenerating and growing''. I am so on the go, go go all the time never stopping I can't even clean out my car because it's FILLED with gym clothes, tupperware everywhere, wrappers from protein bars, empty water bottles, crusty old shaker cups and resturaunt recipts and Subway plastic bags, weightbelts, magazines, old newspapers, wrist straps, spilled gym chalk and more tupperware.

 I'm just a local NPC competitor in Chicagoland who hasn't even won his weight class yet and I'm having a hard time handling my life and marriage. I'd reckon in the higher levels of competition it's even WORSE and more difficult.

 Most serious competitors I know are all divorcees and the ones that are married are in really disfunctional relationships. I read about guys like Dugdale and I don't know how he does it. I'm trying to keep it together but the 'spirit' of bodybuilding has got ahold of me and I don't know if I will defy the odds or become another statistic. Bb is my love and passion...but also my worst enemy.

[Shawn Ray]

Well said however, it is what you make of it.
Darrem has a great supportive wife and a Teenage son who is intelligent and bright!
Lee haney has raised two great kids with the oldest playing football at Citidale.
Vince Taylor, Flex Wheeler, Mike Christian all had kids while being on top of their game!
It's not for everyone but it is a way of life until something more important like Family, Kids and Love come along and throw you in another direction.
For me, "Life" began when I stopped competing and focusing on myself and turned my focus toward my wife and kid.
Peace,
S

[RHINO290]

Like alot of "Career" minded people, the job and focus is way too over powering to consider "Sharing" and "Dividing" the attention to detail that comes with trying to be the best you can be.
That being said, there are exceptions, as in other professions but they are far and few between usually winding up in Divorce Court.
Reason being the sport is very Selfish and time consuming with regard to Personal needs.
I chose to wait due to Travel, Training and Singleminded Personal Goals.
5 years later in hindsight, i think it was the best choice I could make while on the other hand a guy like Mark Dugdale might say, the Marriage and Family were the Balance his life was missing and the timing while still competing was the best thing that could have happend to him.
Different Strokes ya'll.

sHAWN, VERY GOOD STATEMENT INDEED. i AGREE.

[RHINO290]

Well said however, it is what you make of it.
Darrem has a great supportive wife and a Teenage son who is intelligent and bright!
Lee haney has raised two great kids with the oldest playing football at Citidale.
Vince Taylor, Flex Wheeler, Mike Christian all had kids while being on top of their game!
It's not for everyone but it is a way of life until something more important like Family, Kids and Love come along and throw you in another direction.
For me, "Life" began when I stopped competing and focusing on myself and turned my focus toward my wife and kid.
Peace,
S

I agree with all, I have a daughter, but my ex never supported it. I retired from her presure at the peak of my game. After getting a divorce, I am back. Two years into it.

anyway, I should have waited to get married. It never works.

[Blockhead]

 Even better said, Shawn.

 I like your plot twist of how 'life' began AFTER the BB days were over. I always say one of my biggest fears is my life AFTER BB. I feel like I am institutionalized. I wouldn't EVEN know how to wake up and NOT be on a militant on the clock live by the watch schedule. I wouldn't know how to exist by blending in with a crowd...how could I exist without abs...and arms like mine...and a physique like mine.

 How did you do it, Shawn? Did you have to 'cope'? Was it a mindfuck? To shrink...lose size and cuts...to NOT eat constantly...shit, to eat off a dinner plate instead of out of tupperware. How does a BB keep the inside of their car clean???

[The Squadfather]

just wondering this why 99 percent of all pro bb dont' have children, for those few that are married? i'm not talking just about cutler,coleman, and the top 10 pros in the world, i'm talking even within the top 50 pros in the world.

reasons 1) pro bb is about me, me,me 2) not enough money to support a family unless you are a top 10 pro 3) not enough time to care and pay attention to 1 baby/child, much less more 4) perhaps certain side effects have left most of the pro's how should i say incapable of fathering children in the first place

i only know of dugdal and rusty jeffers who have kids, and i'm not even going to go with jeffers and his how should i say past and what he will tell his kids when they grown up, how daddy had another name he used  and what daddy used to do for money! laugh

oh yeah, how come most of the pros women whether they are married or just thier girlfriends are not very attractive, gunter's new woman kim lyons being a very sole exception!

you sound extremely bitter.

[davidpaul]

Even better said, Shawn.

 I like your plot twist of how 'life' began AFTER the BB days were over. I always say one of my biggest fears is my life AFTER BB. I feel like I am institutionalized. I wouldn't EVEN know how to wake up and NOT be on a militant on the clock live by the watch schedule. I wouldn't know how to exist by blending in with a crowd...how could I exist without abs...and arms like mine...and a physique like mine.

 How did you do it, Shawn? Did you have to 'cope'? Was it a mindfuck? To shrink...lose size and cuts...to NOT eat constantly...shit, to eat off a dinner plate instead of out of tupperware. How does a BB keep the inside of their car clean???

That was like me, after doing my last stretch.

[Always Sore]

What Shawn says is true. Let's examine TheBlockHead for a second...bare with me people it's to shine more light on Shawns theory.

 TheBlockHead Himslef has only done 3 shows but has been living the lifestyle to it's fullest for the past 5 years. I mean to the FULLEST. My life revolves around my protein consumption and being in a positive nitrogen balance. I will never go pro nor would I ever imagine doing so...I just love this stuff and have fun prepping for a show and prepping others. ALL my money after important stuff is out of the way goes to groceries, and eating out constantly. Just last week...I bought a Swiss Army Watch...set me back about $80 and I had buyers remorse for about 2 days all over a punk ass watch...because I started to believe that $80 could have bought me a weeks worth of red meat and chicken breast and bag of potatoes and I almost brought it back.

 I've been married a little over a year now and the #1 subject of fights between TheBlockHead and Mrs.Blockhead has to do with me never being home(training, tanning, training someone els, meeting up w/ someone els I'm prepping to see their progress for an upcomming show, picking up and dropping off and slingin gear, grocery shopping, eating out somewhere etc...) and my INABILITY to 'give and take' and compromise. NEVER, not even once in a while take another day off from the gym to do something with her...if there is a family function...I will absolutley REFUSE to go and Mrs. BlockHead is flying solo because "they" will only have hotdogs and hamburgers and beer over there...PLUS...I gotta meet so and so at the gym..."they're 3 weeks out...he/she needs me!"

 When I am off work...I refuse to do ANYTHING outside my norm of pickup/deliveries, train, nap, tan, cook, eat, nap and be a slug on the couch or bedroom because..."I am regenerating and growing''. I am so on the go, go go all the time never stopping I can't even clean out my car because it's FILLED with gym clothes, tupperware everywhere, wrappers from protein bars, empty water bottles, crusty old shaker cups and resturaunt recipts and Subway plastic bags, weightbelts, magazines, old newspapers, wrist straps, spilled gym chalk and more tupperware.

 I'm just a local NPC competitor in Chicagoland who hasn't even won his weight class yet and I'm having a hard time handling my life and marriage. I'd reckon in the higher levels of competition it's even WORSE and more difficult.

 Most serious competitors I know are all divorcees and the ones that are married are in really disfunctional relationships. I read about guys like Dugdale and I don't know how he does it. I'm trying to keep it together but the 'spirit' of bodybuilding has got ahold of me and I don't know if I will defy the odds or become another statistic. Bb is my love and passion...but also my worst enemy.

wow extreamly honest and close look at commitment to your choice. I respect your drive and desire but am amazed at your life. It seems like your almost a prisioner to your desire. I have always worked to the best of my ability with the thought process of "hobby" in the back of my mind. Good luck with your choice, Its nice to see someone respond honestly and not another bunch of crap.

[bmacsys]

What Shawn says is true. Let's examine TheBlockHead for a second...bare with me people it's to shine more light on Shawns theory.

 TheBlockHead Himslef has only done 3 shows but has been living the lifestyle to it's fullest for the past 5 years. I mean to the FULLEST. My life revolves around my protein consumption and being in a positive nitrogen balance. I will never go pro nor would I ever imagine doing so...I just love this stuff and have fun prepping for a show and prepping others. ALL my money after important stuff is out of the way goes to groceries, and eating out constantly. Just last week...I bought a Swiss Army Watch...set me back about $80 and I had buyers remorse for about 2 days all over a punk ass watch...because I started to believe that $80 could have bought me a weeks worth of red meat and chicken breast and bag of potatoes and I almost brought it back.

 I've been married a little over a year now and the #1 subject of fights between TheBlockHead and Mrs.Blockhead has to do with me never being home(training, tanning, training someone els, meeting up w/ someone els I'm prepping to see their progress for an upcomming show, picking up and dropping off and slingin gear, grocery shopping, eating out somewhere etc...) and my INABILITY to 'give and take' and compromise. NEVER, not even once in a while take another day off from the gym to do something with her...if there is a family function...I will absolutley REFUSE to go and Mrs. BlockHead is flying solo because "they" will only have hotdogs and hamburgers and beer over there...PLUS...I gotta meet so and so at the gym..."they're 3 weeks out...he/she needs me!"

 When I am off work...I refuse to do ANYTHING outside my norm of pickup/deliveries, train, nap, tan, cook, eat, nap and be a slug on the couch or bedroom because..."I am regenerating and growing''. I am so on the go, go go all the time never stopping I can't even clean out my car because it's FILLED with gym clothes, tupperware everywhere, wrappers from protein bars, empty water bottles, crusty old shaker cups and resturaunt recipts and Subway plastic bags, weightbelts, magazines, old newspapers, wrist straps, spilled gym chalk and more tupperware.

 I'm just a local NPC competitor in Chicagoland who hasn't even won his weight class yet and I'm having a hard time handling my life and marriage. I'd reckon in the higher levels of competition it's even WORSE and more difficult.

 Most serious competitors I know are all divorcees and the ones that are married are in really disfunctional relationships. I read about guys like Dugdale and I don't know how he does it. I'm trying to keep it together but the 'spirit' of bodybuilding has got ahold of me and I don't know if I will defy the odds or become another statistic. Bb is my love and passion...but also my worst enemy.

So Blockhead, basically you are a prisoner to lifting and eating and resting. You can't eat at a restaurant or over a friends house because you can't control what is prepared. You won't participate in any sports because it may cause you to lose mass even if it only happens in your head. If someone is enjoying some junkfood you only watch them eat it. You can't miss a workout out for anything otherwise you feel like you lost all your gains even if its only one workout. Sounds like you have obsessive compulsive traits and having a routine and structure suits you. Its a double edged sword. That kind of compulsiveness certainly helps you by never caving in to being too lazy to train or eating like shit, but it also can hurt you by not compromising under any circumstance.

[gordiano]

Does Darrem Charles have kids?  

I think he does.

I saw some video of his, where he was giving a tour of his home, and I saw at least one kid.

[DIVISION]

just wondering this why 99 percent of all pro bb dont' have children, for those few that are married? i'm not talking just about cutler,coleman, and the top 10 pros in the world, i'm talking even within the top 50 pros in the world.

reasons 1) pro bb is about me, me,me 2) not enough money to support a family unless you are a top 10 pro 3) not enough time to care and pay attention to 1 baby/child, much less more 4) perhaps certain side effects have left most of the pro's how should i say incapable of fathering children in the first place

i only know of dugdal and rusty jeffers who have kids, and i'm not even going to go with jeffers and his how should i say past and what he will tell his kids when they grown up, how daddy had another name he used  and what daddy used to do for money! laugh

oh yeah, how come most of the pros women whether they are married or just thier girlfriends are not very attractive, gunter's new woman kim lyons being a very sole exception!

The Pro lifestyle doesn't lend itself to having children.

It's not really the environment you want kids around, IMO.

Plus, many bodybuilders are strictly in to women for sex, not relationships.

Many bodybuilders are gay.

I'm sure a few of them are sterile from staying on cycle concurrently for years...

There are plethora of reasons why bodybuilders don't have kids.

Some bodybuilders aren't the most mentally stable people, and them not having kids is probably a good idea.



DIV

[bb doc]

Blockhead -

Spend some time thinking more long term + why you are doing what you r doing.

Many surgeons have seen their marriages + lives disintegrate because of their obsessive love of operating.

Ditto for businessmen + making $$$$$$.

Good luck.

[Blockhead]

 garraeth,

 Straight up I was thinking about doing that...'Seattle Sutton' is a nationwide chain I think but anyway they offer that program. I was seriously thinking about it. I'll look more in to it because I'll be prepping for a show in May of 07 by Feburary so it might be worth looking at.

 bmacy's...you're close but no cigar. I'm not competing so it's not too much of an issue to have a few slices of pumpkin pie or half a box of sugar free Nilla Wafers with milk at night when I'm watching a movie...It's the BB lifestyle is such a part of me I don't know what it's like to not buy 'sugar free' or 'low carb' or 'reduced fat' or to just simply NOT think and analyze every single thing I put in my mouth and how it will affect my physique tomorrow or the next day. My main goal in the BB world is to win my weight class in a local show...qualify for nationals and get on a national stage...once. Just so I can say I did it. Then again...I'm so fkn nutty if I do get to taste that expierence I might want to keep getting up on that stage and go farther and farther. I'm a peddle to the metal kind of guy and I'm the kind of guy that doesn't know the meaning of the word 'die'. I never say it.

 I think most honest serious BB's have the same kind of struggles like I am spilling out here...I know Shawn can relate. Rhino could...those who cannot...probably never competed and never will.

[knny187]

I wonder what percentages of male bbr's has kids vs female bbr's.

I would have to say there's probably more male bbr's that start a family & have kids vs the females.