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Liberals Have No Message
« on: October 24, 2006, 12:17:48 PM »
With all the conservative bashing by the loud and boisterous resident liberals (and I won't mention Jag or Berserker's names, among others), here is some information about the party with no message, vision, or any legitimate ideas on how to move the country forward. 

GOVERNMENT & POLITICS

Senate Democrats build a ‘culture of corruption’
After a year of trying to convince voters that all Republicans are corrupt because of the actions of a couple of rotten apples, the Democrats now find themselves with not one, but two senators under fire for crooked behavior. Minority Leader Harry Reid promised to amend disclosure reports after it became known that he earned $1.1 million on a real estate deal for property he hadn’t owned for three years. Not a bad deal. While Reid was busy trying to sweep this questionable transaction under the rug, another “clerical error” was discovered. Apparently, Reid used $3,300 in campaign donations for a holiday fund for personal employees at a condominium he owns at the Ritz-Carlton. He promptly promised to replenish the money from his own pocket. If you’re keeping track, that would be the pocket lined with money from a questionable real estate deal in 2004. Someone should really crack open this guy’s books and do a top-to-bottom review to see just what else lies beneath.

For New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez, everything is already coming to the surface. Hailing from a state that has recently given us such ethically challenged Democrats as Jim McGreevey and Bob Torricelli, Menendez has drawn the attention of federal investigators looking into a rental deal he was involved with that received millions of dollars in government funding. For the record, Menendez is not officially under investigation at this point, but that is sure to change. While Reid is not facing re-election this year, Menendez is, and his race has been affected by the possibility that he has sticky fingers. Loyal Democrat voters, however, have admitted that they would rather have a corrupt politician in the Senate than Republican Tom Kean, Jr., so we’ll have to see how this hypocrisy plays out.

The GOP rogues gallery
It’s safe to say that the Democrats are being hypocritical about corruption, but that doesn’t let corrupt Republicans off the hook for abusing their office. This week, House Ethics Committee began its inquiries into the Mark Foley page scandal, questioning the chief of staff to Rep. Rodney Alexander (R-LA) about the internal handling of Foley’s preying on congressional pages. One of the pages that Foley had been overly friendly with was sponsored by Alexander, but the emails were not sexually explicit and the matter had been referred to Speaker Hastert’s office as protocol required. Hastert’s office then notified Rep. John Shimkus (R-IL), chairman of the House Page Board, who told Foley to cease contact with the youngster. At the request of the parents, the matter was not pursued further.

Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH) pleaded guilty this week for his role in the Jack Abramoff scandal and could face anywhere from 27 months to 10 years in prison, depending on the outcome of his 19 January sentencing hearing. Ney accepted gifts from Abramoff during the disgraced lobbyist’s whirlwind influence-peddling tour on behalf of Indian casino owners, and is the latest casualty in this sordid drama that began in January of this year with Abramoff’s guilty plea.

Another congressman caught up in a possible lobbying imbroglio is Curt Weldon (R-PA). This week the FBI raided the home of Weldon’s daughter and her business partner, looking for evidence that Weldon used his influence to help his daughter win a million-dollar lobbying contract. Unlike Foley and Ney, Weldon’s situation could be just an attempted character assassination by Democrats on behalf of his opponent. Weldon is facing a tight race for election to an eleventh term, and the issue that the FBI is investigating was reviewed by the House Ethics Committee in 2004 without consequence.

Lieberman calls for Democrats to change the tone
Joe Lieberman, who pledged to remain with the Democrat caucus if re-elected in November, told his fellow Democrats this week that they need to change the tone in Washington if they gain control of Congress. Lieberman, a die-hard liberal on social issues, has received a lot of flack from his base for supporting President Bush and the Iraq war. He is not a poster boy for bipartisanship, but he’s closer to the true definition of cooperation than any of his liberal cohorts. It’s likely that his plea for more level-headed governance from his colleagues fell on deaf ears, though. Democrats are not as hungry to lead the country as they are for revenge against President Bush. They’ve already demonstrated their willingness to throw Lieberman under the bus; why should they listen to Joltin’ Joe now?

Warner takes his hat out of the ring
Former Democrat Virginia Governor Mark Warner has decided against running for president in 2008, citing a greater desire to spend time with his family. Warner, known as a centrist Democrat, was considered the most viable counter to Hillary Clinton’s expected ‘08 bid. The effects of his withdrawal are yet to be fully realized in the race for the Demo nomination, but, at 51, Warner has a lot of time to consider his future, and it is likely we will see him again. One can’t help but speculate, though, whether Warner knows something we don’t. Family considerations are often cited by popular politicians for not running for office when they believe that their party cannot win. Maybe he’s sitting out ‘08 because he thinks the Demos can’t take the White House.

Kerry seeks Purple Heart for 2004 election
John Kerry continues to bash President Bush for the Iraq war and bears the scars of the 2004 presidential election like a fourth Purple Heart. Redefining the term “sore loser” has been Kerry’s stock in trade as he continues to stump for liberal candidates in this year’s midterm elections. He seems to be edging his way toward another run for the White House in ‘08, but he is decidedly less popular than he was two years ago, trailing Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and Al Gore in a University of New Hampshire poll of Demo presidential preferences. For sheer entertainment value, we encourage Kerry to run again. The Democrats haven’t re-nominated a presidential candidate since Adlai Stevenson in 1956, and for good reason.

Don’t worry, be happy
To hear Karl Rove tell it, and to hear President Bush sell it, the GOP will retain control of both houses of Congress on 7 November, but if one listens to off-the-record Republicans in Congress, they will say that the GOP is in for a shellacking. If the excessive drooling of congressional Democrats is any indication, the White House had best shore up its legal team for the impeachment assault sure to come when the Demos take over the legislative branch.

Who’s right? There is no crystal ball on Karl’s desk, but there are reams of polls coming in from races all over the country, and his team has been analyzing the data closely. Targeting the key races and getting those candidates the resources necessary for victory are Rove’s stock in trade. The model that assured Republican victory in 2002 and 2004 is still alive and well. Based on all that, Rove believes that the Republicans may lose eight to 10 seats in the House, but that they will definitely maintain control of both the House and the Senate.

Despite the reputation Rove has earned, fellow Republicans are not necessarily buying his optimism. So, suppose he’s wrong. If Democrats do take the House, they’ll get their Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, one of the most divisive figures in American politics. While acting as minority leader, she hasn’t even been able to keep her team from breaking ranks. It is doubtful she can do any better as Speaker of the House, much less provide overall leadership. Demos will gain the committee chairmanships, but Bush will still be President. Those who’ve lamented his lack of vetoes up till now can take heart that he’ll have plenty of Demo legislation to strike down in the next two years. On top of that, any margin that the Democrats claim in November is likely to be slim, assuring that the inevitable plethora of left-wing bills get bogged down in committee. A Democrat majority 110th Session is sure to be a true do-nothing Congress—with the notable exception of impeachment hearings.

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Re: Liberals Have No Message
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2006, 12:36:50 PM »
*the sound of crickets is deafening*

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Re: Liberals Have No Message
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2006, 03:13:47 PM »
I wouldn't count on much except excuses and rhetoric....but yes, the silence is deafening!

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Re: Liberals Have No Message
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2006, 03:25:27 PM »
I wouldn't count on much except excuses and rhetoric....but yes, the silence is deafening!

Yes, Repubs never make excuses. I guess they're never wrong...   ::)

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Re: Liberals Have No Message
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2006, 04:53:23 PM »
No doubt the democratic party is in bad shape and it has only it's leadership to blame.  It's evident to me when I see, people running against a republican opponents as independents.   The democrats have lost the PR war soundly as tags such as "pacifist and raising taxes" have been directly linked to them.  And then Kerry was the best they could do?  It's sad because even though a 2 party system isn't the best, it's much better then a 1 party system or 2 party system with 1 dominating the other. 

What I'm concerned with is the blind following droves of people who "trust" neo-conservatives and no longer question what is told to them.  I understand they are more akin to sheep and there will always be sheep in the world who blindly follow an ideology regardless of the obvious abuses around them.  This war for example. 

Another example would be this article with phrases like:

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It’s safe to say that the Democrats are being hypocritical about corruption, but that doesn’t let corrupt Republicans off the hook for abusing their office.

Both parties have ALWAYS been hypocritical about corruption.  It's the nature of the beast here.  But the article is certainly not objective and why should it be?  The more you can get each side to point fingers at one another the more you can justify your abuses for example:  "If the democrats were in power during 9/11 we would have done nothing."  So we made sure we did something,  in fact we did more than something:  Based on false pretenses we invaded another country after Afghanistan.  Democrats at that point had little choice as the PR campaign was in full swing and they were down on their asses.  It was either join the club or really look like pacifists.  Dems didn't vote in favor of the war in Iraq for the reasons the administration laid out.  They voted for it because a vote against it, in the storm of FEAR and vengeance swirling around the American public, it would have been potential political suicide. 

Here's another one:

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Loyal Democrat voters, however, have admitted that they would rather have a corrupt politician in the Senate than Republican Tom Kean, Jr., so we’ll have to see how this hypocrisy plays out.

As if Republican voters never said they rather have a crooked republican in office over a morally controversial democrat?  And when we say Loyal democratic voters to we mean ALL of them?  half of them?  a quarter of them?  1% of them?  But a casual reader would easily assume ALL of them and immediately label these Loyal Democratic voters and morally corrupt.   Don't get me wrong............  Democrats would do the same dam thing. 

That's the problem with our politics it's corrupt and tainted both ways.  And we so willingly get drawn into the controversy with articles like this!


But don't worry boys.....I'm sure more will be said.   ;)

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Re: Liberals Have No Message
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2006, 06:10:50 PM »
 The democrats have lost the PR war soundly as tags such as "pacifist and raising taxes" have been directly linked to them.  And then Kerry was the best they could do? 


Don't forget "weak on defence" "cut and run" "gravitas" Give me time, there's a bunch more ;D!

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Re: Liberals Have No Message
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2006, 06:57:47 PM »
I'm a conservative (NOT a Republican) and I'm really pissed off at the GOP.  They had the house, senate, and presidency and they enacted very, very little of what they said they would.  Government spending and debt has exploded these past few years, contrary to their (alleged) small government ideals.  They said they were going to reform Social Security, but that died without much fight.  They're too pussy to do anything about illegal immigrants.  Things were better when one party didn't have all of the power at the federal level.

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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2006, 07:28:22 PM »
I'm a conservative (NOT a Republican) and I'm really pissed off at the GOP.  They had the house, senate, and presidency and they enacted very, very little of what they said they would.  Government spending and debt has exploded these past few years, contrary to their (alleged) small government ideals.  They said they were going to reform Social Security, but that died without much fight.  They're too pussy to do anything about illegal immigrants.  Things were better when one party didn't have all of the power at the federal level.

Yes,  they have total power in both houses and the executuve branch............  what will they blame their failures on?  Certainly not themselves and the drones will agree.  8 years....HAHAHAHAH   They will find a liberally juiced escape goat.  Much like Hitler blaming the german people for failing him.   :P  ( i couldn't resist)

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Re: Liberals Have No Message
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2006, 06:21:48 AM »
I'm a conservative (NOT a Republican) and I'm really pissed off at the GOP.  They had the house, senate, and presidency and they enacted very, very little of what they said they would.  Government spending and debt has exploded these past few years, contrary to their (alleged) small government ideals.  They said they were going to reform Social Security, but that died without much fight.  They're too pussy to do anything about illegal immigrants.  Things were better when one party didn't have all of the power at the federal level.
I'm upset with this group as well.  And even as upset as I am over all that's been done, I don't see the Democrats doing much else.  People were frustrated like this when President Carter was in office, and Reagan came in WITH A PLAN and executed it.  Call me blind, ignorant, and all the other things that folks have called me....but at the end of the day, a plan of "anybody but Bush" just isn't going to get it for me.  Some of the things that I want to see change won't happen if we have a Democratic president/house/senate.  With a possibility of 2 more justices retiring, I'd rather see the president have an easier time of getting in his appointments. That's where I stand. 

You know, every relationship has it's dysfunctions of some sort.  Families...Friendships.. .Marriages...Churches... Work relationships, you name it, there's dysfuction.  The Republican party is no different in my opinion.   Some of you will say the same about the Democratic party.  At the end of the day, there's still some common ground with the part (relationship) of your choice.  I don't see the Democratic party working to maintain the values that our country was built on (allowing judges to legislate from the bench, steadily allowing religious freedom to be restricted, still permitting partial-birth abortions, and if put back in power they will roll back any tax breaks and begin taxing the mess out of the middle-class).   So, as bad as things are with the Republican party, I know they will still fight for these values I believe in.