Author Topic: New pro's and their 'instant' size changes (Read 7034 times)

Bigger Business · « **on:** October 29, 2006, 01:35:08 AM »

How do these guys that win the nationals etc. get their pro cards and all of a sudden put on 30lb's of muscle in 12 months.

They get their pro card and most say things like "I'm taking a year off to put on some size"

For the most part they fuckitup and end up looking like crap...but what comes available when they get that card....why didnt they do that shit 2 years ago?

yep, askin the big questions

UpTheDosage · « **Reply #1 on:** October 29, 2006, 01:47:08 AM »

They simply up the dosage my man.

fathead · « **Reply #2 on:** October 29, 2006, 02:11:13 AM »

Douchebag...... they're usually trying to make a weightclass in the NPC.
It's easier to go a little lighter and get your pro card in a lower division. IFBB doesn't have weight classes so theres no need to hold back once you get to the pros.

Figo · « **Reply #3 on:** October 29, 2006, 02:19:15 AM »

Its a mental thing, they gotta keep up with the big boys, and get bigger.

As you say, they f**k it up most of the time. Perfectly competitive physiques get ruined.

As amateurs, these individuals are bound by weight classes, and usually try to stay just on the high-end of the weight limit, unless they're super-heavies, in which case the need to come in sharp dictates the bw.

Once they turn pro, the need to keep up with the Joneses, makes the guys put on ridiculous amounts of size in a short time frame, whilst when they were amateurs it took 5 years to put on the equivalent.

In the process, they lose sharpness, symmetry suffers, the gut gets distended, weak bodyparts become more prominent.

Great examples of not fixing what aint broke were Labrada and Ray.
Priest is one that put on size gradually, and didnt stuff-up his shape.
Kamali is on the other end of the scale.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #4 on:** October 29, 2006, 02:31:38 AM »

Quote from: fathead on October 29, 2006, 02:11:13 AM

Douchebag...... they're usually trying to make a weightclass in the NPC.
It's easier to go a little lighter and get your pro card in a lower division. IFBB doesn't have weight classes so theres no need to hold back once you get to the pros.

Yeah, that's what Edgar Fletcher did...

YIP
Zack

TheGoldenPrince · « **Reply #5 on:** October 29, 2006, 02:32:17 AM »

That's dope.

Figo · « **Reply #6 on:** October 29, 2006, 02:36:05 AM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on October 29, 2006, 02:31:38 AM

Yeah, that's what Edgar Fletcher did...

YIP
Zack

It took this guy like 50yrs to turn pro...

Bigger Business · « **Reply #7 on:** October 29, 2006, 03:32:16 AM »

Quote from: fathead on October 29, 2006, 02:11:13 AM

Douchebag...... they're usually trying to make a weightclass in the NPC.
It's easier to go a little lighter and get your pro card in a lower division. IFBB doesn't have weight classes so theres no need to hold back once you get to the pros.

thanks cockgoblin

and thanks team

tflexxin · « **Reply #8 on:** October 29, 2006, 03:37:30 AM »

Quote from: Figo on October 29, 2006, 02:36:05 AM

It took this guy like 50yrs to turn pro...

Edgar Flether never turned pro. Never won at the Nationals, USA's, or NA's

Figo · « **Reply #9 on:** October 29, 2006, 04:25:44 AM »

My bad

.

Thats right, I was thinking of Daryl Stafford, who took 51yrs to turn pro, and his biggest showing was at the Masters(Thats how long it took). Injured both legs if not mistaken?

Makes you wonder if its all really worth it. Fletcher is gonna tell his grandkids he almost did it, and Stafford is gonna say he just made it. And people are gonna say: "...oh, thats nice...".

TDK · « **Reply #10 on:** October 29, 2006, 04:37:38 AM »

I'm sure when you turn an IFBB Pro you have more access to their "links" and people in the industry who know how to get you anything and everything for the right price (not always $

).

I know you must get these links in the NPC also but I'm sure there are more people willing to help you push to the next level once you are in with the IFBB crew. Also these guys will know what and how much of it you should take. I think some BBers have no clue at all about gear, anti Es GH, IGF, Slin etc.

davidpaul · « **Reply #11 on:** October 29, 2006, 05:32:55 AM »

Edgar was competing against the Like or Prince and Titus, we all know how fruitful their carreers ended up being.

Titus is in JAIL.
PRINCE is a 140 soaking wet,

Dball · « **Reply #12 on:** October 29, 2006, 11:23:46 AM »

growth hormone.

and tom prince is 170 easy.

SWOLETRAIN · « **Reply #13 on:** October 29, 2006, 01:09:55 PM »

The pro level is a whole new playing field. Watch Phil Heath, hes doin it right.

gh15 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 29, 2006, 01:20:10 PM »

Quote from: Bigger Business on October 29, 2006, 01:35:08 AM

How do these guys that win the nationals etc. get their pro cards and all of a sudden put on 30lb's of muscle in 12 months.

They get their pro card and most say things like "I'm taking a year off to put on some size"

For the most part they fuckitup and end up looking like crap...but what comes available when they get that card....why didnt they do that shit 2 years ago?

yep, askin the big questions

up to 12-15%,,dianabol,,testosterone,,nandrolone decanoate,,growth,,insulin if starting in low enough bodyfat,,AMERICAN growth (jintropin gh will do the job but not as good and not as fast),,lots of rest and lots and lotsss of pizza hut and bbq chiken with beans

lots of calories my friends this is THE key to anything when it comes to hormones manufactored size.

* oil and nolotil are in there. some use more some use less. everyone uses.

delta9mda · « **Reply #15 on:** October 29, 2006, 01:22:33 PM »

Quote from: Bigger Business on October 29, 2006, 01:35:08 AM

How do these guys that win the nationals etc. get their pro cards and all of a sudden put on 30lb's of muscle in 12 months.

They get their pro card and most say things like "I'm taking a year off to put on some size"

For the most part they fuckitup and end up looking like crap...but what comes available when they get that card....why didnt they do that shit 2 years ago?

yep, askin the big questions

you are forgetting they diet down for the weight classes. also, when turned pro they think they need to be super huge and some lose something in the quest for "pro" size.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #16 on:** October 29, 2006, 01:25:31 PM »

Quote from: gh15 on October 29, 2006, 01:20:10 PM

up to 12-15%,,dianabol,,testosterone,,nandrolone decanoate,,growth,,insulin if starting in low enough bodyfat,,AMERICAN growth (jintropin gh will do the job but not as good and not as fast),,lots of rest and lots and lotsss of pizza hut and bbq chiken with beans lots of calories my friends this is THE key to anything when it comes to hormones manufactored size.

* oil and nolotil are in there. some use more some use less. everyone uses.

most honest post on here.

natural al · « **Reply #17 on:** October 29, 2006, 01:27:00 PM »

Quote from: tflexxin on October 29, 2006, 03:37:30 AM

Edgar Flether never turned pro. Never won at the Nationals, USA's, or NA's

edgar got S-C-R-E-W-E-D the year jerry rogers won the HW class, what was that 90? He got majorly screwed the year Chris duffy won the HW class also, I have it on tape from ESPN and it's not even close, he crushed Duffy IMO.

Figo · « **Reply #18 on:** October 30, 2006, 04:38:01 AM »

Perhaps Duffy auditioned privately for the judges prior to comp?

WOOO · « **Reply #19 on:** October 30, 2006, 04:39:52 AM »

Quote from: Dball on October 29, 2006, 11:23:46 AM

growth hormone.

and tom prince is 170 easy.

GH makes a huge diff.... there's also the reason that many people with poor genetics would never want to discuss... until they get their pro cards a lot of very good bbers do not use high dosages of aas...

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #20 on:** October 30, 2006, 04:53:05 AM »

Quote from: WOOO on October 30, 2006, 04:39:52 AM

GH makes a huge diff.... there's also the reason that many people with poor genetics would never want to discuss... until they get their pro cards a lot of very good bbers do not use high dosages of aas...

I think the opposite is often true. When going for the pro card they pull out all the stops. There is extreme abuse in the amateurs, probably worse than in the pros on average. I mean how many do you think are not on growth in the nationals for example?

I think the size gain has a lot to do with the removal of weight classes and thinking you have to put on a lot of size all of a sudden. A mistake for most and they never come in the same conditioning.

Petrucci · « **Reply #21 on:** October 30, 2006, 04:54:16 AM »

Quote from: UpTheDosage on October 29, 2006, 01:47:08 AM

They simply up the dosage my man.

LOL your nick its great!

Figo · « **Reply #22 on:** October 30, 2006, 05:02:17 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on October 30, 2006, 04:53:05 AM

I think the opposite is often true. When going for the pro card they pull out all the stops. There is extreme abuse in the amateurs, probably worse than in the pros on average. I mean how many do you think are not on growth in the nationals for example?

I think the size gain has a lot to do with the removal of weight classes and thinking you have to put on a lot of size all of a sudden. A mistake for most and they never come in the same conditioning.

Yep.

HUGEPECS · « **Reply #23 on:** October 30, 2006, 05:57:55 AM »

Quote from: Bigger Business on October 29, 2006, 01:35:08 AM

How do these guys that win the nationals etc. get their pro cards and all of a sudden put on 30lb's of muscle in 12 months.

They get their pro card and most say things like "I'm taking a year off to put on some size"

For the most part they fuckitup and end up looking like crap...but what comes available when they get that card....why didnt they do that shit 2 years ago?

yep, askin the big questions

that easy. Amateurs are broke. Turning Pro means. You get your juices first, and pay later

Dball · « **Reply #24 on:** October 30, 2006, 06:43:41 AM »

branch put on thirty pounds the first year he hit growth.

dave henry put on 20.

phil heath is at 240 offseason now.

growth. im not saying its a bad thing, it is what it is. you get the money from a sponser, you can afford growth.