Author Topic: IFBB Misconceptions.... (Read 8726 times)

christinafitness · « **on:** October 30, 2006, 08:21:11 AM »

I am a little shocked how little knowledge most people on this board have about the organization of bodybuilding today. The worlds largest bodybuilding federation is the IFBB (INTERNATIONAL Federation of Body Building). This federation has about 50 member countries.

Most of the athletes in the IFBB compete as amateurs. The amateur division of the IFBB in the US is known as NPC. Unlike most amateur competitions in the US, most international events are drug tested. That’s why US athletes never place high in international events. The US athletes are usually selected at the “TEAM UNIVERSE”, which is one of the few drug tested NPC shows. None of the 7 US bodybuilders made the top 5 of any of the 8 weight classes at the IFBB World Championships..

That picture is reversed when it comes to the Pro League of the IFBB. It is far easier for an US athlete to become IFBB Professional than for other athletes. There are at least 10 US bodybuilders that turn pro automatically just because of their national amateur placings.
In most other countries the athletes have to go through a recommendation process.
Is it for that reason that some of the world’s best bodybuilders are still “amateurs” in South America, Europe, Asia and (Northern) Africa. As US athletes they would have turned pro in a minute
It is also obvious, that IFBB Professionals get preferred treatment at PRO shows in the US, such as the Mr. Olympia or the New York Pro Show. In addition to that the chairman of the (international) Pro League is the same person who runs the US amateur division (NPC). Almost all members of that board are US Americans.

I am not sure if the departure of Ben Weider and the election of Rafael Santoja as the new IFBB President will bring any changes, but let’s hope for the best.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2006, 08:21:46 AM »

very exciting post.

christinafitness · « **Reply #2 on:** October 30, 2006, 08:34:16 AM »

I am sorry. I know you prefer gossip. But it's scary how little people here know about thoe world of bodybuilding outside the US.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #3 on:** October 30, 2006, 08:35:16 AM »

Quote from: christinafitness on October 30, 2006, 08:34:16 AM

I am sorry. I know you prefer gossip. But it's scary how little people here know about thoe world of bodybuilding outside the US.

who cares? shouldn't you be out hustling some rich geek to support your "lifestyle"?

christinafitness · « **Reply #4 on:** October 30, 2006, 08:45:12 AM »

Thanks for confirming my response

Chick · « **Reply #5 on:** October 30, 2006, 08:50:12 AM »

CFIT-

What changes were you hoping for?

The Squadfather · « **Reply #6 on:** October 30, 2006, 08:53:57 AM »

sounds like she wants more prize money to magically appear off of the Weider's backyard money tree.

jaejonna · « **Reply #7 on:** October 30, 2006, 08:57:09 AM »

hahahah Magical Money Tree hahah

buffbodz · « **Reply #8 on:** October 30, 2006, 08:59:58 AM »

Quote from: christinafitness on October 30, 2006, 08:21:11 AM

It is also obvious, that IFBB Professionals get preferred treatment at PRO shows in the US, such as the Mr. Olympia or the New York Pro Show.

I don't know where your comming from. All the IFBB pro shows are only open to IFBB pros, no mater what country of origin. Gunter, Rhul for many years Yates and many non American bb's get a fair shot, they just can't beat the monsters who place above them. Gunter beat Coleman at a pro show when Ronnie was the reigning Mr O. So I don't see what their nationality in pro shows has to do with all this. It's not the BB fault that they must take whatever is necessary to place high. Get your standards together. Sounds like sour grapes.

Bigger Business · « **Reply #9 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:02:21 AM »

Quote from: Chick on October 30, 2006, 08:50:12 AM

CFIT-

What changes were you hoping for?

as you know, women lack logic and reason...they get these hairbrained ideas which sound great at the time

we'll be waiting a while for a retort

Chick · « **Reply #10 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:04:44 AM »

You're assuming it's a woman...

Bigger Business · « **Reply #11 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:11:01 AM »

its either a woman or 240 in drag

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #12 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:17:01 AM »

Quote from: christinafitness on October 30, 2006, 08:21:11 AM

I am a little shocked how little knowledge most people on this board have about the organization of bodybuilding today. The worlds largest bodybuilding federation is the IFBB (INTERNATIONAL Federation of Body Building). This federation has about 50 member countries.

Most of the athletes in the IFBB compete as amateurs. The amateur division of the IFBB in the US is known as NPC. Unlike most amateur competitions in the US, most international events are drug tested. That’s why US athletes never place high in international events. The US athletes are usually selected at the “TEAM UNIVERSE”, which is one of the few drug tested NPC shows. None of the 7 US bodybuilders made the top 5 of any of the 8 weight classes at the IFBB World Championships..

That picture is reversed when it comes to the Pro League of the IFBB. It is far easier for an US athlete to become IFBB Professional than for other athletes. There are at least 10 US bodybuilders that turn pro automatically just because of their national amateur placings.
In most other countries the athletes have to go through a recommendation process.
Is it for that reason that some of the world’s best bodybuilders are still “amateurs” in South America, Europe, Asia and (Northern) Africa. As US athletes they would have turned pro in a minute
It is also obvious, that IFBB Professionals get preferred treatment at PRO shows in the US, such as the Mr. Olympia or the New York Pro Show. In addition to that the chairman of the (international) Pro League is the same person who runs the US amateur division (NPC). Almost all members of that board are US Americans.

I am not sure if the departure of Ben Weider and the election of Rafael Santoja as the new IFBB President will bring any changes, but let’s hope for the best.

I don't think people are complaining about the amature side of the IFBB a quarter as much as they are complaining about the Pro side of the IFBB which is screwed up beyond belief. On the International side they have different Presidents for different areas of the world and even though the IFBB provides them with guidelines some take it upon themselves to make up their own criteria. As for the World Championships and Team Universe, just because they are tested doesn't mean they are clean....it's a crock of crap.

dearth · « **Reply #13 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:20:01 AM »

how about an athletes rep, as opposed to an American athletes rep?

Quote from: Chick on October 30, 2006, 08:50:12 AM

CFIT-

What changes were you hoping for?

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:23:24 AM »

Quote from: Chick on October 30, 2006, 08:50:12 AM

CFIT-

What changes were you hoping for?

How about stop referring to bodybuilders as "athletes" and enforce the drug rule.....if the contest is to be tested, then test and hand down the punishment for those who break the rule!

Chick · « **Reply #15 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:27:48 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on October 30, 2006, 09:23:24 AM

How about stop referring to bodybuilders as "athletes" and enforce the drug rule.....if the contest is to be tested, then test and hand down the punishment for those who break the rule!

Why would you have a problem with the reference as "athletes"? If you don't believe they should be called athletes...great. Others believe they are athletes, and will call them as they see fit. It doesn't really matter either way, does it?

I do find it ironic, that everyone who DOESN'T compete is quick to jump on the "Pro Bbers are NOT athletes" bandwagan...perhaps something in the "walk a mile in my shoes", analogy...

Bigger Business · « **Reply #16 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:32:47 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on October 30, 2006, 09:23:24 AM

if the contest is to be tested, then test and hand down the punishment for those who break the rule!

no ones collapsed on stage in a while I1

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #17 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:41:25 AM »

Quote from: Chick on October 30, 2006, 09:27:48 AM

I do find it ironic, that everyone who DOESN'T compete is quick to jump on the "Pro Bbers are NOT athletes" bandwagan...perhaps something in the "walk a mile in my shoes", analogy...

I did compete and at the National level....so I "walked a mile in your shoes"!

Chick · « **Reply #18 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:44:48 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on October 30, 2006, 09:41:25 AM

I did compete and at the National level....so I "walked a mile in your shoes"!

Really...what show was that and when?

knny187 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 30, 2006, 10:41:16 AM »

Quote from: Chick on October 30, 2006, 09:44:48 AM

Really...what show was that and when?

Bob....stop acting like a dipshit. You're about to get owned.

Funny part is....

I bet you watch Football but make comments about the players, teams & organizations.....do you have to be a football player?

onlyme · « **Reply #20 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:00:19 AM »

Quote from: Chick on October 30, 2006, 08:50:12 AM

CFIT-

What changes were you hoping for?

Sounds like Bob is worried about his job. Rafael going to come in and clean house. Even he sees the wastefullness of your position. I bet you are going out right now to pick up some spanish books and see if your phone will work international.

ieffinhatecardio · « **Reply #21 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:14:58 AM »

Quote from: Chick on October 30, 2006, 09:27:48 AM

I do find it ironic, that everyone who DOESN'T compete is quick to jump on the "Pro Bbers are NOT athletes" bandwagan...perhaps something in the "walk a mile in my shoes", analogy...

Open mouth, insert foot. Mr. Intenseone might be a right wing zealot but he did compete as a bodybuilder and looked pretty good too.

Miss Karen · « **Reply #22 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:26:20 AM »

Chick and CFIT you know these clowns don't know anything about BB so why ask I asked if any results from worlds and they started on me personal.They are a bunch of clowns with very small brains.Burn is all they know.I can just see their happy little faces now waiting to type something personal.It's a scream that they are all under false names and Gimmick accounts.This place is a JOKE.Fools and Idiots.

onlyme · « **Reply #23 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:28:03 AM »

I find it amazing that CHic had no idea about this move. And Miss Karen I lke your posts. If indeed you are a girl I like your forcefulness. Plus I wouldn't want you to start ragging on me.

ForMotherRussia · « **Reply #24 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:35:06 AM »

Quote from: Miss Karen on October 30, 2006, 11:26:20 AM

Chick and CFIT you know these clowns don't know anything about BB so why ask I asked if any results from worlds and they started on me personal.They are a bunch of clowns with very small brains.Burn is all they know.I can just see their happy little faces now waiting to type something personal.It's a scream that they are all under false names and Gimmick accounts.This place is a JOKE.Fools and Idiots.

Another post without mentioning Milos

- wow miss karen u r doing good- that is 2 in a row