Kuclo and Troponin's lifting videos are the best on youtube!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chris_mason]

Chris this isn't a flame.  But just because you can single, double or triple a shit ton on the deadlift DOES NOT mean that you are strong in the sense that these guys are strong.  These guys, as well as the likes of Ronnie and Branch, possess an other-worldly sort of what I call "functional strength," in that they can do multiple, heavy sets of very heavy, very compound movements.  The deadlift doesn't test strength or fortitude like the squat does.  Squats are dreadful.  Fucking bent-over rows, if done through a full range of motion, with significant weight, for multiple sets of multiple reps (4 sets of 12, for example) ARE A BITCH.  I first remember Porter Cottrell saying this regarding the bent-over row, and he's right.  When you can do back, chest, shoulders, legs, all that shit in a week, and in that week perform numerous sets of full reps of REAL exercises, then you are indeed a fucking beast.  These guys are like universal soldiers or something.  Just relatively unstoppable in relation to the rest of the population.  I mean, how much of a beating does your body take doing these workouts day in, day out.  It's incredible.  You will never see a guy possessing this sort of overall strength have a physique that is nothing less than incredibly hearty/solid.  I believe it to be the training that initially enables them to gain the ability to metabolize both the incredible amounts of macronutrients and yes, I'm sure in some cases juice.  Have you ever tried shooting even 750 grams of test a week without training incredibly hard and heavy?  You just can't do it.  You can't stand it for long enough to get any kind of real gains from it.  You can't eat and you can't sleep and you want to come out of your own skin or jump in front of a fucking bus or something.  ALL DRUGS is never ALL DRUGS.  There is a very delicate synergy of variables required and hitting on that magic combination is the hardest thing.  Once you have hit that magic equilibrium, however, from everything I've seen, your gains come VERY fast.  It takes equal parts heart, know-how, and daring.  Couple this with a very acute appreciation for your own being afforded these efforts and THEN you have the true art of bodybuilding.  This is what many of the most jaded trolls here are missing.  THESE are the points that need to be elaborated on most in the various bodybuilding media outlets, IMO.      

Well, first, I can bent over row pretty much the same weight those guys are using (very close).  My shoulder press strength isn't quite there but I can rep with 225 lbs.  As I said, I am not at their level but with a bit of drug use I would be and then some.  I know that to be a fact.  I am not naive on the topic but I also know what I have done clean and what drugs would do for me.

Anyway, my point other than a bit of vanity was that it is heredity and desire which are the primary components or world class strength.

As to repeated sets of 10-12 reps with those kinds of loads you know as well as I do that drugs vastly improve one's strength endurance in the gym.  I am not using that as a knock but to make the point to refute your idea of true strength.

[Bast000]

doesn't steve kuclo have a boyfriend?

[TheAnimal]

Just wondering, are you in love with Steve Kuclo? You like to put his name in just about every one of your sentences.

This affinity that Matt has for Steve is well noted... I assume it is particulary due to his outstanding results. This connection Matt has made is the age factor and lack of seperating in the bodybuilding world e.g. as he is not a pro

[sgt. d]

 

[Bast000]

yea he's really gay

[Matt C]

Just wondering, are you in love with Steve Kuclo? You like to put his name in just about every one of your sentences.

Steve is a person that bodybuilding needs.  He has looks, height, a good personality, intelligence, and is overall a great face for bodybuilding.  This industry NEEDS more guys like him.  Obviously I'm impressed with his lifts of course, but I'm not gay - if I come across like that, oh well.

One more point - people talk all this shit about how hard pros train.  Take it from someone who has watched all the videos - THEY DON'T.  But some (Ronnie, Johnnie, Branch, Jay and STEVE) do train incredibly hard.  When I look at a pro video I can't look up to their level of intensity - with Steve, I'm thinking DAMN, I wish I could push myself that hard.  Something I RARELY feel when watching a pro video.  Steve trains harder than most pros - is stronger than most pros, and has market appeal unlike 90% of pros.  This guy is a diamond in the rough, but in a few years he will be pro.

I would be shocked if MattC benched 225 for 1 rep. Dude is a stick and a liar

Right on the first, wrong on the second.  When did I ever lie?

[TheAnimal]

Dorian trains like a fuckin possessed demon you can't not mention his intensity amongst the greats like Branch, Johnnie, jay and now from I have seen Steve is a testament to hard training. Dorian on the other hand might just be the benchmark for intensity and no my judgement is not clouded by his training partner's extreme rhetoric. The training we can see is odviously gut wrenching and fuckin downright unbelievable.

[Bast000]

dorian just yells a lot and does his reps faster, oh and he grimaces a lot too.. if that's what you mean by 'intensity'.

[jrep]

McFarland,   What do I have to do to get big like you?

[TDK]

Mainlining is a lark term that Woten came up with.  I have a penchant for it so I choose to use it too.  Mainline has a certain degree of association with abuse, so I use the term when I refer to those types of situations.  Wit - get it? 

Nice excuse lol.  Mainling means IVing and NOTHING else.

[davidpaul]

McFarland,   What do I have to do to get big like you?

lift weights?