Author Topic: NPC Nationals: Stan McQuay gets his procard (Read 12301 times)

njflex · « **Reply #50 on:** November 13, 2006, 11:06:08 AM »

Quote from: Chick on November 13, 2006, 10:48:43 AM

Pleeeease..If Stan had come in second, everyone would be bitchin about how HE got screwed and how the more symmetrical physique should win over a guy with more muscle, etc, etc.....

THIS guy has heavyeight size and probably will leave that class,stan would have either way would have to grow to the class limit,but hit it in first try at this class,he's worthy but that guy just on first look,has pro size .i wasn't their so i can't be totally right.

legbreaker · « **Reply #51 on:** November 13, 2006, 11:07:13 AM »

haha, alright I understand your view and think that your opinion has to be jaded, either by your position or your personal relationship with stan, none of which i know nothing about so I'll leave it at this. An interesting poll would be to show each of the mandatories to all the top bodybuilders in the game today and the Mr.O's of the past and have them simply give their opinion (Stan or Charles). I think that , if they did NOT have to put their name to it you would get a 99% vote in favor of Charles.

njflex · « **Reply #52 on:** November 13, 2006, 11:18:36 AM »

This may or not have anything to do with the outcome ,but stan has the oppurtunity to display his physique in print more than dixon will ever .even if and when dixon turn's pro he still will never eclipse stan their,so stan has more of a chance to display his build because he is in the contest game longer than dixon.

JimmyTheFish · « **Reply #53 on:** November 13, 2006, 11:28:21 AM »

Quote from: legbreaker on November 11, 2006, 08:02:30 PM

Are you serious? No one...NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON THAT KNOWS BODYBUILDING could say that was fair. the charles guy got ripped off and bodybuilding judging once again proves to be a complete joke! At least the super guy won because he also was light years ahead of the next guy.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stan should not have taken first

Chick · « **Reply #54 on:** November 13, 2006, 11:45:46 AM »

Quote from: legbreaker on November 13, 2006, 11:07:13 AM

haha, alright I understand your view and think that your opinion has to be jaded, either by your position or your personal relationship with stan, none of which i know nothing about so I'll leave it at this. An interesting poll would be to show each of the mandatories to all the top bodybuilders in the game today and the Mr.O's of the past and have them simply give their opinion (Stan or Charles). I think that , if they did NOT have to put their name to it you would get a 99% vote in favor of Charles.

I don't have a vested interest either way...and don't know either guy much at all personally. There are plenty of Pro's right here on this board...I'd be curious to know their respective opinions myself.

SWOLETRAIN · « **Reply #55 on:** November 13, 2006, 11:50:57 AM »

For what its worth..... My vote goes with Stan. I feel his physique was presented way better and I am more for the symmetrical look.

columbusdude82 · « **Reply #56 on:** November 13, 2006, 11:55:22 AM »

Chick, why does the ifbb insist on handing out pro cards to the lower weight classes (e.g. bantams) who mostly look like anorexic teenage girls? They get pro cards and are mostly never heard from again bcs they cant compete at the pro level. What a waste of pro cards...

Why not just eliminate those classes, tell the guys in them to go eat some eggs and steak so their contest weight goes up to, say, 185, then maybe give the extra pro cards to the second place superheavy and heavyweight. They deserve them alot more and would accomplish much more with a pro card.

Sorry if this is off-topic...

Chick · « **Reply #57 on:** November 13, 2006, 12:00:30 PM »

These guys know what the deal is, and for most of them...they have no grand illusions of beating Jay Cutler on stage.

For some, it's the pursuit of being the best, the best in their respective weight class...no different than a bantamweight or lightweight boxer.

columbusdude82 · « **Reply #58 on:** November 13, 2006, 12:05:13 PM »

But they are not bodybuilders! They haven't built anything! If you're over 5'4 and weigh under 155 on stage, don't go on stage, go to Outback and eat a massive steak.

Does the NBA allow midgets in just bcs they love to play basketball? Does the NFL allow cripples to play just bcs they wanna play pro football? Of course not. Why is bodybuilding any different?

Who wants to see some anorexic 115 pound dude on stage who looks like he came out of one of those Darfur commercials on tv? No one... We'd much rather see a dude like Evan Centopani get a pro card and compete!

Doesn't anyone else think this way too?

arce377 · « **Reply #59 on:** November 13, 2006, 12:24:43 PM »

CONGRATS, STAN.

njflex · « **Reply #60 on:** November 13, 2006, 12:29:29 PM »

Quote from: Chick on November 13, 2006, 12:00:30 PM

These guys know what the deal is, and for most of them...they have no grand illusions of beating Jay Cutler on stage.

For some, it's the pursuit of being the best, the best in their respective weight class...no different than a bantamweight or lightweight boxer.

But a lightweight or batam boxer can make money.a smaller bber in those classes can not.5'4 batam in great shape is different than a 5'4 in shape and in the money league lee priest.i have respect for the lower classes too,those guy's have all the detail and shape and more than hold their own like marvin ward say.so i guess the prestige factor is their to be a national title holder.

George Whorewell · « **Reply #61 on:** November 13, 2006, 12:36:33 PM »

The problem is that the contest isnt based on who will make a better pro, its based on which competitors name rings out in the mind of the deaf dumb and blind judges.

voiceofreason · « **Reply #62 on:** November 13, 2006, 12:37:37 PM »

Quote from: columbusdude82 on November 13, 2006, 12:05:13 PM

Does the NBA allow midgets in just bcs they love to play basketball? Does the NFL allow cripples to play just bcs they wanna play pro football? Of course not. Why is bodybuilding any different?

mugsy bogues, spud webb, earl boykins. Talent is talent.

HUGEPECS · « **Reply #63 on:** November 13, 2006, 12:38:11 PM »

Ok, It's all done with. Let's just wish Stan good luck in the Pro Ranks. This guy paid his dues. wish him luck on the next level. No hating

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #64 on:** November 13, 2006, 12:57:20 PM »

yes columbusdude, but stan is 5'3" not 5'4"

columbusdude82 · « **Reply #65 on:** November 13, 2006, 12:59:33 PM »

Please understand that I am not dissing Stan. Maybe I should have posted my question to Chick in this thread. But I think I make a good point and wonder if others agree...

bigmikecox · « **Reply #66 on:** November 13, 2006, 02:14:00 PM »

Quote from: columbusdude82 on November 13, 2006, 12:05:13 PM

But they are not bodybuilders! They haven't built anything! If you're over 5'4 and weigh under 155 on stage, don't go on stage, go to Outback and eat a massive steak.

Does the NBA allow midgets in just bcs they love to play basketball? Does the NFL allow cripples to play just bcs they wanna play pro football? Of course not. Why is bodybuilding any different?

Who wants to see some anorexic 115 pound dude on stage who looks like he came out of one of those Darfur commercials on tv? No one... We'd much rather see a dude like Evan Centopani get a pro card and compete!

Doesn't anyone else think this way too?

What weight class do you compete in?

If you ever go see a national show, these guys look pretty good onstage. Granted, they are not mass freaks, but they train just as hard and diet just as hard. Steve Brisbois, MoMo, Labrada, Dean Tornebene all got pro cards in lighter classes and did ok.

columbusdude82 · « **Reply #67 on:** November 13, 2006, 02:18:15 PM »

I'm trying to make superheavyweight... To answer your point, yes there are well-known exceptions, but how many bantamweights who got pro cards have competed in the IFBB? And my point is even more valid in regional contests and non-pro-qualifiers like junior nats.

bigmikecox · « **Reply #68 on:** November 13, 2006, 02:25:35 PM »

Well, according to Ed and Betty Pariso they will have a class for PROS who weigh under 210lbs to compete "They’ll also produce the IFBB Europa Pro Best Built Bodybuilder Under 210, to encourage men who came to the pros from the smaller weight classes to take off their sweats for a chance to actually win one. And, says Betty, “You will be able to compete again the next day at the Super Show.”

If you think about it, name the last Super Heavyweight to do damage in the Pros? Hell, most Super's don't even win the overall. I know locally, the Supers suck!! They are "big", but most are just fat. At least, that is what I have seen in Ohio for the past 3-4 years

columbusdude82 · « **Reply #69 on:** November 13, 2006, 02:30:57 PM »

Well I don't follow Ohio bodybuilding much, and know of only one superheavy around here... I am not saying everyone should weigh 230 on stage, but some dudes just mistake a bbing show for a miss anorexia pageant is all...

DragonsBreath · « **Reply #70 on:** November 13, 2006, 02:48:53 PM »

Legbreaker is right! I was there too! And Stan should have NOT won that class....PERIOD! Despite Dixon's lack of experienced posing, he clearly beat Stan from every angle. Stan still looked like a middleweight. He's got great abs but his front double bicep looked like a bantams. No thickness from the side, weak back.

To me, the whole class was fairly weak with the exception of a few that stood out. Look at the last few pro's that turned pro as a LHW. McQuay is NOT in their class. Dim, Jones, and Dugdale [true LHW's]. All were deserving winners and weighed at the top of the class. Stan was what....? 185 at best?. My point is dude, just didn't have the muscle to have won that class. The judges knew it, the crowd knew it and now he's just an infant among men.

KevinP85 · « **Reply #71 on:** November 13, 2006, 03:07:58 PM »

Quote from: bigdumbbell on November 13, 2006, 12:57:20 PM

yes columbusdude, but stan is 5'3" not 5'4"

That's more like Dixon!

Lestat · « **Reply #72 on:** November 13, 2006, 03:12:47 PM »

got any more pics of stan mcquay?

DragonsBreath · « **Reply #73 on:** November 13, 2006, 03:14:00 PM »

Quote from: Lestat on November 13, 2006, 03:12:47 PM

got any more pics of stan mcquay?

Don't fukkin' start. Just DON'T!

jumpstart · « **Reply #74 on:** November 13, 2006, 03:21:58 PM »

Quote from: Lestat on November 13, 2006, 03:12:47 PM

got any more pics of stan mcquay?

plenty!