Author Topic: Will Israel force the US to attack Iran? (Read 6280 times)

Hugo Chavez · « **on:** November 12, 2006, 10:02:01 AM »

The neocon push for war in America has fallen flat on it face... top neocons have lost their political power... The Israeli rebuke of America for not taking action on Iran also went nowhere... Just thinking about the options today... Israel came out this week and said they may attack Iran. If they attack Iran, Iran will retaliate and America will be forced into action being smack in the middle of the fight. The huge problem if this happens is the Arab backlash against America will be 110% with an Israeli/US attack on Iran. We could lose what support in Iraq we do have... This leaves the only option, if an Israeli attack looks imminent, of America being forced to take military action before Israel does.

I tried to phase this observation in a way as to not offend pro-Israeli members. If you're still offended tuffshit

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #1 on:** November 12, 2006, 10:06:38 AM »

Iran vows to hit back if Israel launches attack

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=117084&version=1&template_id=37&parent_id=17

240 is Back · « **Reply #2 on:** November 12, 2006, 10:23:44 AM »

the world has had enough neoconservatism and empirialism. Thanks to the internet, lies are uncovered in days, not years.

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #3 on:** November 12, 2006, 10:42:32 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on November 12, 2006, 10:23:44 AM

the world has had enough neoconservatism and empirialism. Thanks to the internet, lies are uncovered in days, not years.

Like Saddam nuclear program!

OzmO · « **Reply #4 on:** November 12, 2006, 10:45:21 AM »

If Israel says to atack Iran we are obligated to do so, becasue as Mr. I says: We wouldn't exsists with out them.

Sadaam's nuke program? lol

240 is Back · « **Reply #5 on:** November 12, 2006, 10:48:25 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on November 12, 2006, 10:42:32 AM

Like Saddam nuclear program!

I agree we should bomb the shit outta sadaam because of the nuke program....

as long as we also bomb the shit outta kim jung il in N. Korea.

To bomb sadaam for nuke plans, yet let N Korea set them off and fire missiles towards hawaii, really makes everyone think we want to manage Iraqi oil and not N Korean wastelands. And if this is true, it's an empire-building move, not a "safety" move.

pumpster · « **Reply #6 on:** November 12, 2006, 10:49:56 AM »

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Sadaam's nuke program? lol

Part of the administration's ineptitude is in not finding it. Still there, disassembled or destroyed in the Bekaa Valley, Syria, Libya, etc.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #7 on:** November 12, 2006, 10:52:31 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on November 12, 2006, 10:42:32 AM

Like Saddam nuclear program!

You are clearly suffering from advanced syphilis... Get to your doc immediately!!!

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #8 on:** November 12, 2006, 12:32:51 PM »

Iran says will reply swiftly to any Israeli attack
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061112/wl_nm/iran_israel_dc

It may be that the only option US will have here is a shock and awe total annihilation of Iran before any of us can say, "what-en-who?" We know that a serious retaliation from Iran on Israel could result in nukes flying off to Iran or at a minimum what I pointed out in my above post... So many ways here, this looks like beyond the point of no return... Now, if bush was serious about diplomacy... it could be a totally different story... but with serious diplomacy off the table from the start, we're going to war with Iran and it's going to be the ugliest thing America has ever gone through... $:-\$

240 is Back · « **Reply #9 on:** November 12, 2006, 12:34:26 PM »

why can't we just stop fucking with other countries?

I know, it's profitable to export capitalism and manage the resources belonging to others.

But take a step back and think about the many innocent people on all sides that will die so that a select few can make a lot of money.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #10 on:** November 12, 2006, 12:37:49 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on November 12, 2006, 12:34:26 PM

why can't we just stop fucking with other countries?

I know, it's profitable to export capitalism and manage the resources belonging to others.

But take a step back and think about the many innocent people on all sides that will die so that a select few can make a lot of money.

The masons painted giant murals all over the Denver International Airport depicting why... There's a plan to all of this

(eye roll on their plan)

JOHN MATRIX · « **Reply #11 on:** November 12, 2006, 12:46:59 PM »

whats all this about US having to get involved? its between israel and iran, why 'must' be intervene on israel's side? let them handle their own shit

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #12 on:** November 12, 2006, 12:57:23 PM »

Quote from: JOHN MATRIX on November 12, 2006, 12:46:59 PM

whats all this about US having to get involved? its between israel and iran, why 'must' be intervene on israel's side? let them handle their own shit

I really wish you are right, but zero possiblitity that we sit on the sidelines while missles are flying over Iraq toward Israel... Just won't happen.

Camel Jockey · « **Reply #13 on:** November 12, 2006, 01:32:32 PM »

It's not just the the Neocons who will follow Israel into the pit. All US politicians will want to intervene on behalf of Israel, regardless of whether it's in the best interest of the US or not.

Iran's president has tried diplomacy several times, but Bush keeps turning him down. This proves that him and those fags up on capitol hill want to be hostile and want war. Nothing bad would have come from a meeting of the two presidents, infact all this shit could have been solved. But the jews that run this country will never allow it to happen.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #14 on:** November 12, 2006, 01:39:21 PM »

Quote from: Camel Jockey on November 12, 2006, 01:32:32 PM

It's not just the the Neocons who will follow Israel into the pit. All US politicians will want to intervene on behalf of Israel, regardless of whether it's in the best interest of the US or not.

Iran's president has tried diplomacy several times, but Bush keeps turning him down. This proves that him and those fags up on capitol hill want to be hostile and want war. Nothing bad would have come from a meeting of the two presidents, infact all this shit could have been solved. But the jews that run this country will never allow it to happen.

Agree, there has been zero attempt in Washington for serious diplomacy. ZERO.. It's a joke... And when war comes, they'll tell us that it was the very last option

Some sob story about how Bush was in anguish with his ordering of the offensive...

Camel Jockey · « **Reply #15 on:** November 12, 2006, 01:45:08 PM »

Quote from: Berserker on November 12, 2006, 01:39:21 PM

Agree, there has been zero attempt in Washington for serious diplomacy. ZERO.. It's a joke... And when war comes, they'll tell us that it was the very last option Some sob story about how Bush was in anguish with his ordering of the offensive...

Just like they said the attack on Iraq was a last option, when they already had plans to attack a year before march 2003.

Then they emotionally blackmailed the nation with some cock and bull story about WMDs.

240 is Back · « **Reply #16 on:** November 12, 2006, 01:49:55 PM »

1) IRAQ completely surrendered 24 hours before we started bombing them. FACT.

2) IRAN has asked for a debate before a world audience so that they can share the evidence and facts that they have. Their only requirement? That the American people be able to hear it uncensored. FACT.

So, let's get this straight...

We lose 3000 and kill 60k to 600k Iraqis, for a war to achieve something we had 24 hours before we started bombing?

And the leader of iran is more interested in giving evidence to the US people than Bush is? WTF?

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #17 on:** November 12, 2006, 02:11:27 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on November 12, 2006, 01:49:55 PM

1) IRAQ completely surrendered 24 hours before we started bombing them. FACT.

2) IRAN has asked for a debate before a world audience so that they can share the evidence and facts that they have. Their only requirement? That the American people be able to hear it uncensored. FACT.

So, let's get this straight...

We lose 3000 and kill 60k to 600k Iraqis, for a war to achieve something we had 24 hours before we started bombing?

And the leader of iran is more interested in giving evidence to the US people than Bush is? WTF?

Yup, you got it... Manchurian Candidate for the NWO and the military Industrial complex drooling for a war... Yea, Bush really was upset over his decision to go to war... BWAHAHAHHAHAahahha... sick....

240 is Back · « **Reply #18 on:** November 12, 2006, 02:26:35 PM »

WHy aren't people upset when they hear that Iraq completely caved a full day before we invaded?

Why aren't people pissed that we've lost 2800 American soldiers, fighting for a goal which was ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED before we started the attack?

I know "teaching them a lesson" must be a really good hard-on for the warmongers.... but ya have to admit, with Sadaam's agreement to full compliance, the UN would have set up camp for 15 years. No WMD thoughts without Hans Blix being there to smell it.

2,800 dead Americans. After the goal was accomplished. Incredible.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #19 on:** November 12, 2006, 02:38:03 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on November 12, 2006, 02:26:35 PM

WHy aren't people upset when they hear that Iraq completely caved a full day before we invaded?

Why aren't people pissed that we've lost 2800 American soldiers, fighting for a goal which was ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED before we started the attack?

I know "teaching them a lesson" must be a really good hard-on for the warmongers.... but ya have to admit, with Sadaam's agreement to full compliance, the UN would have set up camp for 15 years. No WMD thoughts without Hans Blix being there to smell it.

2,800 dead Americans. After the goal was accomplished. Incredible.

A lot of people are upset but as long as there is a strong media force that fails to do their job and even helps bolster the lie such as Fox news did, there will be a strong opposition who believe the lies. That means the people who do care are busy opposing people who are misguided by Rush/Hannity and company instead of opposing the government for these crimes...

240 is Back · « **Reply #20 on:** November 12, 2006, 02:45:58 PM »

Quote from: Berserker on November 12, 2006, 02:38:03 PM

A lot of people are upset but as long as there is a strong media force that fails to do their job and even helps bolster the lie such as Fox news did, there will be a strong opposition who believe the lies. That means the people who do care are busy opposing people who are misguided by Rush/Hannity and company instead of opposing the government for these crimes...

Wow. Isn't the govt actually a group os ELECTED people, that have taken a vow to act for the people?

Why didn't they just ask the people if we should invade Iraq even though they surrendered unconditionally to the inspections?

I'm sure the US population would have supported an war without a cause, right? And if not, I'm sure the White House would like to know, so they could have called off the attack. Their goal is to follow the will of the people, right? It's not like they're a bunch of liars who like war! lol...

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #21 on:** November 12, 2006, 02:55:09 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on November 12, 2006, 02:45:58 PM

Wow. Isn't the govt actually a group os ELECTED people, that have taken a vow to act for the people?

Why didn't they just ask the people if we should invade Iraq even though they surrendered unconditionally to the inspections?

I'm sure the US population would have supported an war without a cause, right? And if not, I'm sure the White House would like to know, so they could have called off the attack. Their goal is to follow the will of the people, right? It's not like they're a bunch of liars who like war! lol...

Again, with the media in their back pocket, they know full well they have a free ride to do whatever they want... The media is the number one enabler of all of this... They are the center of the problem... If the truth doesn't get to the people over the message of the lie, expect the politicians to do what they want and the people to follow the lie.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #22 on:** November 12, 2006, 03:19:06 PM »

Very good highly acclaimed documentary that covers the medias role in making all this happen...

WMD: Weapons_of_Mass_Deceptio n
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4437853756074043715&q=Weapons+of+Mass+Deception&hl=en

24KT · « **Reply #23 on:** November 13, 2006, 12:45:26 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on November 12, 2006, 01:49:55 PM

1) IRAQ completely surrendered 24 hours before we started bombing them. FACT.

2) IRAN has asked for a debate before a world audience so that they can share the evidence and facts that they have. Their only requirement? That the American people be able to hear it uncensored. FACT.

So, let's get this straight...

We lose 3000 and kill 60k to 600k Iraqis, for a war to achieve something we had 24 hours before we started bombing?

And the leader of iran is more interested in giving evidence to the US people than Bush is? WTF?

And now you know why there is so much animosity in the world towards America.
Not animosity towards the American people, but the assholes running your government.
There is more shock & disbelief that the American people were so unaware of what was taking place in their name.

However, like all things... the truth does come out in the end. I just can't wait for the impeachment.
Can't happen quick enough imo.