I mean seriously Shawn Ray beat , Paul Dillett who had a wider back , Levrone who had a wider back , Nasser who had a wider back , Ronnie who had a wider back , it means dick , he clings onto dear life with this nonsense ' advantage '
you are honestly trying to say that Ronnie's width is not an advantage against Flex?

as I said, ND's hatred of ronnie makes him stupid:

the man has no practical knowledge of how bodybuiding is actually judged.
for him, all that matters is numbers and quotes.
when comes to the reailty of the onstage comparisons, he is all but lost.