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« on: November 19, 2006, 02:20:13 PM » |
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Don't you know why was arnold on Olympia 1980 thin?As he had injured shoulder,A couldn't hard train
He it wrote in his encyclopedia
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2006, 02:37:56 PM » |
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Arnold had an injured shoulder and couldnt train hard for Mr O 1980, hence his poor condition/ining  Still doesnt explain how Mentzer and/or Platz got shafted and overlooked. They both should have placed ahead of Arnie, and its debatable who should've won. He only won due to his name. Cant place the great A.S. 3rd or lower. |
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Slick Vic
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2006, 04:07:58 PM » |
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Don't you know why was arnold on Olympia 1980 thin?As he had injured shoulder,A couldn't hard train
He it wrote in his encyclopedia
Don't know who why dave czech write post about olympia arnold 1980? Doesn't make sense, does it? That's what I thought about your post. Use good grammar and I could probably answer your question.  |
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Moosejay
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2006, 08:45:24 AM » |
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I spoke to Michael Walczak, M.D, shortly after the 1980 Olympia. He was at my gym in Connecticut giving a seminar.
The drug doctor for many of the pros at the time, he did not allow that Arnold should have one ( and he was definitely partial to Arnold) but he also stated that many of the other pros were not at their best.
In my opinion, Zane (despite a very bad injury to his urethra several weeks prior to the show), Coe, Mentzer, Tinnerino and even Roger Walker could have annexed the top spot. Roy Callender came onn strong.
Platz looked great in 1981. In 1980 he and Samir were actually quite smooth. Check out the photos, they are quite telling.
Could never understand Dickerson winning in 1982, or placing ahead of Zane ever.
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Jr. Yates
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2006, 02:19:16 PM » |
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Don't know who why dave czech write post about olympia arnold 1980? Doesn't make sense, does it? That's what I thought about your post. Use good grammar and I could probably answer your question. he obviously doesn't speak english, I love reading his posts! Its not that hard of a question as to what hes asking, actually I think hes just stating a point that hes unsure about that happens to be correct. |
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Slick Vic
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2006, 08:22:15 PM » |
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he obviously doesn't speak english, I love reading his posts! Its not that hard of a question as to what hes asking, actually I think hes just stating a point that hes unsure about that happens to be correct.
Ha... Ha... Ha... I know. I'm just jerkin' the guy around.  But to actually love reading his posts? I just can't handle reading his threads anymore. |
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2006, 11:50:18 AM » |
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Ha... Ha... Ha... I know. I'm just jerkin' the guy around. But to actually love reading his posts? I just can't handle reading his threads anymore. haha i know i know but broken english is fun. |
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Sergio Rules 77
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2006, 08:38:39 PM » |
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In my opinion, Zane (despite a very bad injury to his urethra several weeks prior to the show), Coe, Mentzer, Tinnerino and even Roger Walker could have annexed the top spot. Roy Callender came onn strong.
Wow, how do you injure your urethra . Anyhoo, the top three at that show were clearly Mentzer, Arnold & Dickerson. Mentzer running 5th is still the biggest catastrophe in bodybuilding history, even more so than Sergio losing in Essen. SERGIO!!!! |
Ugh, my retirement grease
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pumpster
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2006, 10:57:38 AM » |
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In my opinion, Zane (despite a very bad injury to his urethra several weeks prior to the show), Coe, Mentzer, Tinnerino and even Roger Walker could have annexed the top spot. Roy Callender came onn strong.
Platz looked great in 1981. In 1980 he and Samir were actually quite smooth. Check out the photos, they are quite telling.
Could never understand Dickerson winning in 1982, or placing ahead of Zane ever.
Obviously politics in various contests. |
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alexxx
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2006, 11:01:09 AM » |
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Arnold was at 70% and still good enough to beat the competition. Notice Mentzer's tiny chest!
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just push some weight!
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2006, 11:54:55 AM » |
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I remember reading something by Mentzer which he wrote that while backstage at the 1980 Mr. Olympia, seeing Arnold in his trunks backstage gave him a tremendous boost in confidence. He thought at that moment "Not only am I going to win the Olympia, but I'm also going to beat Arnold Schwarzenegger!"
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2006, 01:39:12 PM » |
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I remember reading something by Mentzer which he wrote that while backstage at the 1980 Mr. Olympia, seeing Arnold in his trunks backstage gave him a tremendous boost in confidence. He thought at that moment "Not only am I going to win the Olympia, but I'm also going to beat Arnold Schwarzenegger!"
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2006, 09:06:19 PM » |
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Arnold was at 70% and still good enough to beat the competition. Notice Mentzer's tiny chest!
Just to be clear Schwarzenegger was right there with the other top guys and looked good but also had a lot of help from Weider politics. If you want to pretend that wasn't a factor, i'd like to introduce you to Santa.  |
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2006, 05:13:21 AM » |
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don't know why they talk about boyer getting ripped off. he wasn't in the running.
mentzer definitely got screwed though.
shit happens. spitting your dummie and becoming a meth addict was probably not the answer.
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americanbulldog
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2007, 12:14:59 AM » |
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1972 and 1980 are both highly debatable whether the Oak should have won.
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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2007, 02:31:20 AM » |
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1972 and 1980 are both highly debatable whether the Oak should have won.
i don't think it's debatable if you're judging a bbing contest as opposed to an ass licking contest. arnold had weak legs and a lack of thickness, density, symmetry and proportion. in short, he was off. |
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2007, 12:45:13 PM » |
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I was trying to be respectful to Arnold. How he beat The Myth in 1972 is beyond me..... |
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2007, 04:45:05 PM » |
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arnold was more cut than oliva in 1972 his calves were better also
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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2007, 04:53:17 PM » |
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arnold was more cut than oliva in 1972 his calves were better also
You better go look at the photos... The Myth was more conditioned than he was in 72... Who ever heard of an O winning because he had 1 better bodypart... Calves?  |
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2007, 04:57:05 PM » |
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oliva had enormous arms but they didnt havr arnold separation no idont think oliva was better than the oak
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2007, 04:57:58 PM » |
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Arnold won in 1980 because he was the best. In 1972 if you see the vid it is clear it was close but Arnold was more cut and had better shape.
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2007, 04:58:52 PM » |
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Arnold won in 1980 because he was the best. In 1972 if you see the vid it is clear it was close but Arnold was more cut and had better shape.
I knew you wouldn't see it any other way... You love the guy PB. |
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2007, 05:10:00 PM » |
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I knew you wouldn't see it any other way... You love the guy PB.
I remember a quote from Joe Weider on this topic. He said the other bodybuilders should be glad Arnold won in 1980 because if he had lost his ego would force him to come back better than ever and win it 5 more times. |
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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2007, 10:24:42 PM » |
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I remember a quote from Joe Weider on this topic. He said the other bodybuilders should be glad Arnold won in 1980 because if he had lost his ego would force him to come back better than ever and win it 5 more times.
Maybe, but then they would have been AMAZING wins... not just gimmes... When Arnold won, I mean won, hands down... was the best, I've never seen anyone better (Well, I'm a fan of The Myth, but I digress)... but there were times when he wasn't the best, but he won anyway. |
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Figo
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2007, 01:30:35 AM » |
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Best conditioning there was Dickerson. Platz was ripped off. Zane was great, but past prime, and it showed... Now in '81... thats when Platz and Padilla really got ripped off. No politics |
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