Gh15? Who was GH15?

[Big Chiro Flex]

Very Odd to me the moral superiority some fellas have here. Engaging in criminal practices such as buying and using gear, yet shaming anyone for buying weed or soemthing. Yeah, I see the difference between hormones and narcotics, but what do I care what another grown man does to his body Who am I to judge what he can't do So the real evil is narcotics.... but why not cigarrettes? Why isn't the crusade against cigarette companies, killing 500,000 a year? Or how about alcohol? Never understood this argument.  I thought the consensus with gear users is that the government should let us do with our bodies what we please. But we have this little group of gear users shaming others because they don't for the mold for how they think others should live.  By the way, this rant is all coming from a guy who has NEVER even smoked weed or done any form of narcotics, EVER.

[Shockwave]

Very Odd to me the moral superiority some fellas have here. Engaging in criminal practices such as buying and using gear, yet shaming anyone for buying weed or soemthing. Yeah, I see the difference between hormones and narcotics, but what do I care what another grown man does to his body Who am I to judge what he can't do So the real evil is narcotics.... but why not cigarrettes? Why isn't the crusade against cigarette companies, killing 500,000 a year? Or how about alcohol? Never understood this argument.  I thought the consensus with gear users is that the government should let us do with our bodies what we please. But we have this little group of gear users shaming others because they don't for the mold for how they think others should live.  By the way, this rant is all coming from a guy who has NEVER even smoked weed or done ansay form of narcotics, EVER.

very mature of you brah.

after everything that ive put in myself..... ive come to the conclusion that there is no difference begween booze, cigs, narcotics or gear... it is all just as bad or as good as the person using it. People can become addicted to gear just as quickly as dope.

I wont use dope again, but I use gear. I can use gear and not have issues, I cant with dope. Alcohol is far worse for your body than any narcotic, but people use legality to hop on a moral high horse.

I dont judge anyone for what they use. Only how they act.

[Big Chiro Flex]

very mature of you brah.

after everything that ive put in myself..... ive come to the conclusion that there is no difference begween booze, cigs, narcotics or gear... it is all just as bad or as good as the person using it. People can become addicted to gear just as quickly as dope.

I wont use dope again, but I use gear. I can use gear and not have issues, I cant with dope. Alcohol is far worse for your body than any narcotic, but people use legality to hop on a moral high horse.

I dont judge anyone for what they use. Only how they act.

If anyone here has the right to speak on this issue it's you bro. You've lived both sides of this. Your perspective is invaluable.

I know I'm gonna get shit for it, or be labeled as Pro-Narcotics, which I'm not at all, but shit....I've read these narcotics shaming Posts and I just don't get it. Maybe I'm becoming more and more Libertarian in my world views as I "grow up", or maybe I just want to disagree with the gh15ers, I dunno  

[Palpatine Q]

Very Odd to me the moral superiority some fellas have here. Engaging in criminal practices such as buying and using gear, yet shaming anyone for buying weed or soemthing. Yeah, I see the difference between hormones and narcotics, but what do I care what another grown man does to his body Who am I to judge what he can't do So the real evil is narcotics.... but why not cigarrettes? Why isn't the crusade against cigarette companies, killing 500,000 a year? Or how about alcohol? Never understood this argument.  I thought the consensus with gear users is that the government should let us do with our bodies what we please. But we have this little group of gear users shaming others because they don't for the mold for how they think others should live.  By the way, this rant is all coming from a guy who has NEVER even smoked weed or done any form of narcotics, EVER.

This = the internet

[Simple Simon]

That's what's difficult trying to have a reasoned debate with someone like you. You're intellectually shallow and you don't reason, you emote. Your arguments are based on feelings and emotions and this is a prime example.

You are unable to distinguish between legality and morality. That some things, say speeding, is illegal but not immoral; and some things are immoral but not illegal, such as adultery.

Because I want something legal does not mean I support or encourage the behavior. I believe everybody has the right to ingest anything they want, including poison, but that does not mean I support it.

Try to think and reason. You think like a girl. "Simple" is certainly an apt description.

And everyone can tell lies if they like, who the fuck are you to decide whats right or wrong.
Mind your own business and keep your nose out of other peoples affairs.

[pellius]

And everyone can tell lies if they like, who the fuck are you to decide whats right or wrong.
Mind your own business and keep your nose out of other peoples affairs.

Reading your posts are kind of cute and endearing. It's like when an illiterate adult is trying to learn how to read. How he gets all frustrated and angry when he's trying to enunciate, pronounce and sound out the letters and vowels.

Go get em, tiger! You can do it.

** Puts "Simple" Simon in a head lock and gives him a noogie **

[Simple Simon]

Reading your posts are kind of cute and endearing. It's like when an illiterate adult is trying to learn how to read. How he gets all frustrated and angry when he's trying to enunciate, pronounce and sound out the letters and vowels.

Go get em, tiger! You can do it.

** Puts "Simple" Simon in a head lock and gives him a noogie **

Great comeback, and short and sweet.

You are the king of grammatical posts.

[pellius]

Very Odd to me the moral superiority some fellas have here. Engaging in criminal practices such as buying and using gear, yet shaming anyone for buying weed or soemthing. Yeah, I see the difference between hormones and narcotics, but what do I care what another grown man does to his body Who am I to judge what he can't do So the real evil is narcotics.... but why not cigarrettes? Why isn't the crusade against cigarette companies, killing 500,000 a year? Or how about alcohol? Never understood this argument.  I thought the consensus with gear users is that the government should let us do with our bodies what we please. But we have this little group of gear users shaming others because they don't for the mold for how they think others should live.  By the way, this rant is all coming from a guy who has NEVER even smoked weed or done any form of narcotics, EVER.

I'm not sure that if this is directed at me since I've been speaking the most on this subject and brought it up. But again, I want to laws and individual rights. I've said it many times on this board and I've said it on this thread. As long as you don't impose on the rights and freedoms of another individual then you should be free to do whatever you want. But just because I want something to be legal, taking drugs, doesn't mean I support that behavior. Groink is against the eating of fast food but I don't think he wants the government to get involved and outlaw McDonalds and Buger King?

With freedom comes responsibility. It's up to you whether you use or abuse anything.

[whitewidow]

How old are you again?  Damn, just let it go man.

The guy had a 100k mark on him and posted pictures of the view from his condo.  He obviously doesn't want people to be able to track him down, yet elves claimed they knew where he lived in OR.  WW was supposed to be dead for like 3 years now and he's still alive in the same condo using the same IP.

You're a cool guy, but this board is consuming your life.  gh15 won't post a picture either and his claims are insane.

Who the fuck cares anymore dude.

Exactly! I am not hiding from any members! I told people where I lived! I posted pictures of my spot. That picture I posted was to prove my HGH grew nails faster if that is what Gh15 bases how good the HGH is. Yes Great HGH will make your nails grow fast! I was holding water! I was off-season 220lbs at that time. You have girl legs! Would you post a picture if some sick fuck put out 100,000$ on you? Honestly? I am more scared of LE then anybody. It wouldn;t matter! I could post a picture that looked better then 75% of getbig members but no matter what you would flame me! You wouoldn;t before we had a issue but now no matter if I had a almost pro level physique you would flame me. hell we flame pros on here all the time! You have a decent physique and YOU get flamed! So it dosn't matter. Like overload said why dosn't Gh15 post up a picture since he is a pro and does not sell steroids or narcotics? what is the problem? Why won't he post a picture?

Go ahead post a picture of my hands I don't care. I put that picture up because it showed how fast (REAL HGH grew nails) not that whack kigtropin or any other generic.My nails in that picture or way longer and stronger then anybody else who posted a picture, and that was only letting them grow for 5 days. Your just mad at me because everything I said was true! Your mad I wouldn't reship your HGH and you are embarrased that you claimed it was the bomb when it was bunk! You cannot even tell what good HGH is, because you have never had it! Lets see your nails grow that long in 5 days! At that time I was off-season, had water retention,plus my hands were numb and swelling from that potent HGH. I am not saying your physique is shit but overall I am way better lb for lb once I get in the 175lb area.

Overload pointed out the facts how can you argue with those facts? So everything was all good and you trusted me to remail you your 16 kits of kigtropin then when I wouldn't do it wich is also a sign that I don't sell drugs, you got all mad! When I asked how things were going friendly you told me it was great HGH(I have the PM) when it was bunk! why did you tell me it was great HGH when it was bunk? ,maybe you should of shut your mouth till you ran the bunk kigtropin longer! I am glad you have know clout or are somebody I would trust because if you were I might of bought 100 of those kits instead I asked slinpimp and waited for his opinion on the HGh since I know he could be a IFBB pro if he wanted to and he told me it was bunk! So who did I believe the little guy from hawaii or the guy who could be a IFBB pro who I trust? well I picked slinpimp and he was right and blew the lid off this scam!

After Slinpimp stepped up and told me they were fake and went public all of a sudden everybody started saying"you know what I think my kits are bunk as well" even you asshole! The guy who told me they were the bomb! don;t deny you said these bunk kits were the bomb because I have the PM. You got so many re-ships! you probably got 3 diffrent re-ships, you kept bitching to kami how all your kits were bunk even the re-ships. You evded up with so many kits 16 of them bunk but porbably 32 of them real as I know he shipped your 16 kits over at least once maybe twice from what I heard.

You should of listened to me and stuck with the brands I told you to buy nut you were on that Gh15 tip! you still are! I got the best HGH and gear! I never made any bogus referrals! I have been out of that shit for a few years but back then when alot of our members got ripped off it didn;t help having guys like you praising bunk kits because you don;t even know how to tell if your HGH is real right away! Your the type who needs a month or two till they can see some minor result or get a tiny extra pump-LOL Good HGH has drastic effects that don't take 2 months to feel or notice.

You saw what real HGH did to my nails,it also made my hands swell and feel numb! plus I got fluid retention,those are signs of real HGH. Your dick also grows a inch or two-Not kidding.

[whitewidow]

Narcotic dealers destroy lives for profit.

what is great is when cocky pricks like you start buying it and then also start having their brothers and sisters pitch in and we get a family of assholes flat broke and addicted to drugs and start selling their ass to old men for money.Your the asshole dealers look for. Guys like you with addictive personalitys who instead of borrowing money from theri brother or sister they get them to go in on the drugs and they all get hooked to the point they sell all their nice cothes at a vintage clothing store and sell their butts to old men in vaseline alley and sleaz balls get all the money and guys like you live on the beach in hawaii.

[pellius]

Very Odd to me the moral superiority some fellas have here. Engaging in criminal practices such as buying and using gear, yet shaming anyone for buying weed or soemthing. Yeah, I see the difference between hormones and narcotics, but what do I care what another grown man does to his body Who am I to judge what he can't do So the real evil is narcotics.... but why not cigarrettes? Why isn't the crusade against cigarette companies, killing 500,000 a year? Or how about alcohol? Never understood this argument.  I thought the consensus with gear users is that the government should let us do with our bodies what we please. But we have this little group of gear users shaming others because they don't for the mold for how they think others should live.  By the way, this rant is all coming from a guy who has NEVER even smoked weed or done any form of narcotics, EVER.

Also I wanted to address your point about this "little" group thinking how others should live.

Don't we all do this? And is it a bad thing? Isn't there a huge thread on here criticizing people for their lack of will power and being fat? Is it wrong to discourage Shizzo from his problem with alcohol and trying to get people to stop smoking? I remember encouraging a girl friend to start working out. It changed her life for the better. I think it's a good thing and I want more people to do it and encourage them to. I am in essence telling them how I think they should live.

I'm a big believer in moral persuasion but that's quite different from passing laws. I want people to workout, not abuse recreational drugs and narcotics, eat better but I certainly don't want to pass a law requiring it.  

Telling people what you think they should do or not do, telling them how to live, is one thing. Forcing them under threat of coercion is quite another.

Of course this does not apply in the case of a parent/child relationship. You often have to force your children to behave in a certain way although even that right is now under attack.  

BTW, this is also coming from someone who also has never been drunk or high in his life.

[bigmc]

judge you not the deeds of others

less you be judged yourselves

from the bible sums it up nicely

[sososue]

BTW, this is also coming from someone who also has never been drunk or high in his life.

Thats blatantly obvious.

[pellius]

judge you not the deeds of others

less you be judged yourselves

from the bible sums it up nicely

Well, I expect to be judged and I am judged all the time. I've actually been before a judge.

And I of course judge others. Everybody does. If someone is a murderer or pedophile, I consider that person absolute trash and deserves to burn in hell. 

[bigmc]

Well, I expect to be judged and I am judged all the time. I've actually been before a judge.

And I of course judge others. Everybody does. If someone is a murderer or pedophile, I consider that person absolute trash and deserves to burn in hell. 

I just like the phrase bro

[pellius]

I just like the phrase bro

I'm going to lay off White Widow now that Dustin has put me in my place. It's one thing to have a guy like Shitsoul who chose to become an alcoholic. In WW's case, maybe he was a drug addict before his accident. I can't be sure of that. But what I can be sure of is that he's going to be addicted to narcs/opiates for the rest of life because of his physical condition. When you consider that he is only 32 things don't look good for him as the years wear on. Hell, I'm over 20 years older than him. I can only imagine where he'll be at in 20 years.

As Dustin says, we should show some mercy. There's worse people in this world. He never scammed anybody or cheated anybody out of money. I've always back him on that to gh15.

That will be my penance here for returning to this board. Bury the hatchet on all my gh15 inspired enemies. Fortunately, that doesn't include Shitsoul.

[King Shizzo]

I'm going to lay off White Widow now that Dustin has put me in my place. It's one thing to have a guy like Shitsoul who chose to become an alcoholic. In WW's case, maybe he was a drug addict before his accident. I can't be sure of that. But what I can be sure of is that he's going to be addicted to narcs/opiates for the rest of life because of his physical condition. When you consider that he is only 32 things don't look good for him as the years wear on. Hell, I'm over 20 years older than him. I can only imagine where he'll be at in 20 years.

As Dustin says, we should show some mercy. There's worse people in this world. He never scammed anybody or cheated anybody out of money. I've always back him on that to gh15.

That will be my penance here for returning to this board. Bury the hatch on all my gh15 inspired enemies. Fortunately, that doesn't include Shitsoul.

You are a pathetic old man.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Lol at all these perfect scholarly steroid users having a seizure about one guy possibly selling drugs. Lmao

[King Shizzo]

Lol at all these perfect scholarly steroid users having a seizure about one guy possibly selling drugs. Lmao

x2. People who sell steroids are drug dealers too.

Hope this helps.

[bigmc]

x2. People who sell steroids are drug dealers too.

Hope this helps.

what about people who sell alcohol

[Cleanest Natural]

love the double standard .. if I sell expensive wine I am respectable but if you sell roids you are scum haha

[chaos]

Cry Baby Shitsoul doesn't even lift, why does he care about steroids?

[falco]

Well, if WW simply states that he doesn't post any pics of himself is because he's afraid of gh15 then no one can argue with that. But he has many times challenged gh15 and said that he is a fraud
and has no fear of him.

He doesn't post a pic because he is fat and looks horrible and would get owned off this board.

And it's kind of hard to credibly claim that no one cares about gh15 when this thread is nearing 350 pages. Sure it's merged but it still doesn't diminish the impact.

This thread has been dead for years. You brought it back since gh15 site disappeared.

[bigmc]

I'm going to lay off White Widow now that Dustin has put me in my place. It's one thing to have a guy like Shitsoul who chose to become an alcoholic. In WW's case, maybe he was a drug addict before his accident. I can't be sure of that. But what I can be sure of is that he's going to be addicted to narcs/opiates for the rest of life because of his physical condition. When you consider that he is only 32 things don't look good for him as the years wear on. Hell, I'm over 20 years older than him. I can only imagine where he'll be at in 20 years.

As Dustin says, we should show some mercy. There's worse people in this world. He never scammed anybody or cheated anybody out of money. I've always back him on that to gh15.

That will be my penance here for returning to this board. Bury the hatchet on all my gh15 inspired enemies. Fortunately, that doesn't include Shitsoul.

ive never been called a penance

if you would rather keep giving me shit knock yourself out 

[Big Chiro Flex]

Also I wanted to address your point about this "little" group thinking how others should live.

Don't we all do this? And is it a bad thing? Isn't there a huge thread on here criticizing people for their lack of will power and being fat? Is it wrong to discourage Shizzo from his problem with alcohol and trying to get people to stop smoking? I remember encouraging a girl friend to start working out. It changed her life for the better. I think it's a good thing and I want more people to do it and encourage them to. I am in essence telling them how I think they should live.

I'm a big believer in moral persuasion but that's quite different from passing laws. I want people to workout, not abuse recreational drugs and narcotics, eat better but I certainly don't want to pass a law requiring it.  

Telling people what you think they should do or not do, telling them how to live, is one thing. Forcing them under threat of coercion is quite another.

Of course this does not apply in the case of a parent/child relationship. You often have to force your children to behave in a certain way although even that right is now under attack.  

BTW, this is also coming from someone who also has never been drunk or high in his life.

Big difference between encouraging others and shaming others, don't you agree?

Your Shizzo argument doesn't count because everybody should be shaming him regardless of their moral obligations. Same with fat people. 

I get it's not that serious, but I felt obligated to say something after reading for the 100th time in 3 days how terrible narcotics are, written by guys who illegally use/abuse a different illegal controlled substance.