Gh15? Who was GH15?

[The Wizard]

To the Gfake15 club who don't even know who their idol is 
I've been on the circuit for years and many many pros have told me this guy is GH15. I don't believe it to be fair as I have met Vince and don't think he would drug push on-line. Just reporting what I have been REPEATEDLY told.

[Meso_z]

To the Gfake15 club who don't even know who their idol is 
I've been on the circuit for years and many many pros have told me this guy is GH15. I don't believe it to be fair as I have met Vince and don't think he would drug push on-line. Just reporting what I have been REPEATEDLY told.

gh15 doesnt "push drugs online"...he just talks about their use. Might be Vince.

[The Wizard]

gh15 doesnt "push drugs online"...he just talks about their use. Might be Vince.

I have been repeatedly surprised when various pros and guys within the IFBB claim its Vince. Having re-visited all Gfake15's claims, Vince does look to be favourite to me if he was genuinely a top pro. I'll leave it up to you guys and his cute little fan club on here. I was just putting you all out of your misery.

[pellius]

Who have you heard this from and how can you verify it? People always say the same thing. They know someone who KNOWS who gh15 is but never can name who or even confirm that they said it. If gh15 is right and that pro bodybuilders don't like him revealing the behind the scenes truth about bodybuilding, and it's obvious why they would not, they would have no problems outting him. I would. And the let the jackals start digging into his background or have some crazy off him.

[JasonH]

[io856]

For those who think its Dennis James

It wouldn't make sense for gh15 to always be so against narcotics

Remember what happened with Dennis in Thailand
"“On 26th February at 9.00am, Dr. Mahaisak (chief of police), and Mr Yakvarachai (drugs officer) along with a DEA officer, arrested Mr Dennis James, the American champion body builder.

They found hundreds of vials of an anabolic steroid along with 19 E tablets in a parcel sent from Germany to Mr Dennis James at Universe Gym. Mr James admitted that everything in the parecl belonged to him and that he intended to sell the steroids to bodybuilding friends in Thailand, and the ecstasy tablets to tourists visiting Thailand. Police officers were called upon to search his house. Mr James’s house was full of bodybuilding trophies. Officers searched Mr James’s computer and found evidence showing that he used it to give and receive orders from all around the world. Mr James is charged with holding Ecstasy tablets without authorisation. The maximum penalty for this crime in Thailand is death.

Thai officers and DEA officers have been watching Dennie James for a long time. He has a business visa to be in Thailand to operate the Universe Gym but officials believe that this was a cover for his main activity – a major agent to import and export steroids which are banned in the United States. It is believed that he receives parcels from the Netherlands via Germany and he then distributes them to other countries, including America. Evidence was found showing that Mr James sells ecstasy tablets via the internet internationally. Police also found parcels in his home ready to be sent to an american address.”"

http://www.musclememory.com/blog/2004/02/5

[BOW]

If he *is* Vince, then that's a pretty damn credible dude. He does have an impressive track record.

[DK II]

[The Wizard]

Who have you heard this from and how can you verify it? People always say the same thing. They know someone who KNOWS who gh15 is but never can name who or even confirm that they said it. If gh15 is right and that pro bodybuilders don't like him revealing the behind the scenes truth about bodybuilding, and it's obvious why they would not, they would have no problems outting him. I would. And the let the jackals start digging into his background or have some crazy off him.

Not saying names but about 7 or 8 ex pros from the 1990's (1 current until a couple of years back) and 2 US IFBB officials. I am in the IFBB in the Uk so can't reveal all as I'd prob be kicked out 

[GroinkTropin]

This how I always understood it. It doesn't keep recycling through your body over and over "stripping off esters." It's the "depot" concept that I understood. Same reason why water base hits you hard and fast. Even if the oil is no ester like TNE it still doesn't compare to suspension because TNE is still in oil (fat).

Well the erasterase enzyme (there are many actually, not going to bother clarifying which one we are talking about, just think erasterase and be happy) is present all over your body. As soon as you do your injection, the enzyme does it's job at cleaving the site. It's what it does. Otherwise foreign objects could get lodged in your body and you wouldn't be able to get them out.

Anyway, so yeah TNE is the same as suspension and I think the release rates are very similar. As soon as you inject IM the test molecules are free to circulate in your bloodstream as active steroid molecules. I do not think the oil used to suspend the unesterfied steroid will make much difference, if so we are talking a couple hours at most. It won't make a bit of difference that you can actually see or feel. The one and only difference I can think of would be if you are carb loading before a show, the water based can be used to give SEO enhancements while also allowing a more efficient carb load. If I remember correctly, you would drop the test 14 days out and then the day before the show when carb loading and dehydrating you shoot the suspension and it causes massive glycogen uptake by your muscles. That is one of tests best attributes actually, it makes your muscles sponges for carbs, especially if in a depleted state. It used right suspension is very powerful, if you don't know what you are doing it's a recipe for water retention and gyno.

[io856]

its not so hard to guess who i am my friendly egg:

jan pier
dennis
big old beautiful man with glassess
goonter
roland


take your pick mr egg ,,i jusg gave you somethign to talk about for the next month

[Meso_z]

gh15 is a man with muscles who has access to the internetz.

[DK II]

 

[pellius]

Not saying names but about 7 or 8 ex pros from the 1990's (1 current until a couple of years back) and 2 US IFBB officials. I am in the IFBB in the Uk so can't reveal all as I'd prob be kicked out 

Of course not.

Anyway, until recently for years I thought it was DJ. DJ was involved in the steroid biz, fits the age and time frame of gh15, moved back to Germany which is where gh15 seems to call home, and also I've always thought that of all the bodybuilders there was something about DJ that just oozed "cool." I don't mean in the contemporary, always with the latest and greatest, flashy, trend setting way cool. But just almost above it all. Just cool and smooth. That's how I imagine gh15. I guess that's how I wanted to imagine him. Just strutting around in his tank top with that cool smile not caring if anyone thinks he's a douche because he looks better in a tank top than any man alive.

But gh15 ain't working for MD and praising Philsulina like that. Doesn't matter though. He's still the god of hormones and single handedly changed the landscape. I'm even starting to hear at the gym people saying how someone looks or doesn't look 3 dimensional or talking about blowing the muscle up from within. LOL! I even gave my buddy a suspicious look when after training when we were deciding where to go for lunch he said, "Ninja Sushi. Perfect food for after a workout." If we stopped for pineapple juice he would have definitely been outed.

[pellius]

Well the erasterase enzyme (there are many actually, not going to bother clarifying which one we are talking about, just think erasterase and be happy) is present all over your body. As soon as you do your injection, the enzyme does it's job at cleaving the site. It's what it does. Otherwise foreign objects could get lodged in your body and you wouldn't be able to get them out.

Anyway, so yeah TNE is the same as suspension and I think the release rates are very similar. As soon as you inject IM the test molecules are free to circulate in your bloodstream as active steroid molecules. I do not think the oil used to suspend the unesterfied steroid will make much difference, if so we are talking a couple hours at most. It won't make a bit of difference that you can actually see or feel. The one and only difference I can think of would be if you are carb loading before a show, the water based can be used to give SEO enhancements while also allowing a more efficient carb load. If I remember correctly, you would drop the test 14 days out and then the day before the show when carb loading and dehydrating you shoot the suspension and it causes massive glycogen uptake by your muscles. That is one of tests best attributes actually, it makes your muscles sponges for carbs, especially if in a depleted state. It used right suspension is very powerful, if you don't know what you are doing it's a recipe for water retention and gyno.

Question:

What's so special about SEO which as I understand it is simply MCT oil? What is so special about that oil compare to Sesame Seed or Cotton Seed oil? When you consider how much injects a pro must do and having to rotate around so many muscle why would they bother injecting just oil when that inject could be used to inject an active compound, i.e., site injections. I mean, if I'm going to stick a needle into something like my bicep or calf why not do it with test enanthatonino or equipona? Why waste it with injecting inert oil.

If there is something special about MCT oil why don't UG labs simply start offering a separate line of their gear which is MCT oil based?

[Trev]

Bloody hope not as Vince and I have always got on really well. I don't think so.
 

[oliolioli]

Of course not.

Anyway, until recently for years I thought it was DJ. DJ was involved in the steroid biz, fits the age and time frame of gh15, moved back to Germany which is where gh15 seems to call home, and also I've always thought that of all the bodybuilders there was something about DJ that just oozed "cool." I don't mean in the contemporary, always with the latest and greatest, flashy, trend setting way cool. But just almost above it all. Just cool and smooth. That's how I imagine gh15. I guess that's how I wanted to imagine him. Just strutting around in his tank top with that cool smile not caring if anyone thinks he's a douche because he looks better in a tank top than any man alive.

But gh15 ain't working for MD and praising Philsulina like that. Doesn't matter though. He's still the god of hormones and single handedly changed the landscape. I'm even starting to hear at the gym people saying how someone looks or doesn't look 3 dimensional or talking about blowing the muscle up from within. LOL! I even gave my buddy a suspicious look when after training when we were deciding where to go for lunch he said, "Ninja Sushi. Perfect food for after a workout." If we stopped for pineapple juice he would have definitely been outed.

Why does everyone take GH15's non-drug-related statements as truth and fact?  Let's say he really is Dennis James, wouldn't it be the perfect cover to blast Phil Heath as GH15, but in reality he truly thinks and believes that Heath is a gifted bodybuilder?

Half the stuff he posts about Phil just doesn't make sense.  He's narrow, OK, but that's about it.  It seems the Phil-bashing is just a cover, a humorous one at that.  Anybody with a pair of eyes doesn't actually believe that Heath looks worse than Jay with his atrophied limbs and Kai with his 2nd trimester abomination.

[DK II]

Why does everyone take GH15's non-drug-related statements as truth and fact?  Let's say he really is Dennis James, wouldn't it be the perfect cover to blast Phil Heath as GH15, but in reality he truly thinks and believes that Heath is a gifted bodybuilder?

Half the stuff he posts about Phil just doesn't make sense.  He's narrow, OK, but that's about it.  It seems the Phil-bashing is just a cover, a humorous one at that.  Anybody with a pair of eyes doesn't actually believe that Heath looks worse than Jay with his atrophied limbs and Kai with his 2nd trimester abomination.

But isn't everything that is written on the internet the truth?? 

[oliolioli]

But isn't everything that is written on the internet the truth?? 

Only the parts about having your windshield shot out by other Getbiggers.  BTW, where's the QueenFatty been lately?

[DK II]

Only the parts about having your windshield shot out by other Getbiggers.  BTW, where's the QueenFatty been lately?

Probably taken out by PMS.


people are stupid to think that gh15's post reflect the offline person that is behind it, that's exactly why so many can't believe that it is Gunter behind it, because Gunter is such a nice guy IRL. 

[Wiggs]

Probably taken out by PMS.


people are stupid to think that gh15's post reflect the offline person that is behind it, that's exactly why so many can't believe that it is Gunter behind it, because Gunter is such a nice guy IRL. 

No fucking way its Gunther. No fucking way.

[Cleanest Natural]

gh15 has one of the best chest and is one of the strongest .. I also never seen Vince training barefoot .. gh15 is a man who experienced different cultures .. nice try

[DK II]

No fucking way its Gunther. No fucking way.

[oliolioli]

No fucking way its Gunther. No fucking way.

Who did 4-time Mr. Olympia Jay Cutler say was GH15 when you had your private conversation with him?

[Wiggs]

There was a time when a man like this would have been worshipped.