so borresen wasn't the first to outline the sorts of amounts pro's were taking?
oh and he never hid behind a board to do it
some of his stuff was off but some was revolutionary
his XXX's for eg
his hgh theories about blast and cruise
his slin advice
his igf advice
he may have had his faults he was a drug addict like practically every pro bber or even high level nat competitor
are you telling me PB didn't open peoples eyes to dosages years before anyone else did?
try his 21 day sust cycel and tell me you don't benefit
bro,
it was always known pro's use a lot lol....
not really paul borressen who made that known..... but i knew several top bb.....and the way borressen advocated cycles is just bullshit... trust me.... no pro cylces like that.....
first ... short cycles do not work..... period.... like i said there is a reason pro's never come off....
they use less sometimes.... but less for a pro is always still very decent for you and me lol!!
why is that? because x amount of steroids/hgh/slin equals x amount of musclemass.....
now everybody is not the same so there is a personal formula for everybody .... but the formula is there!!
and that is constant use... year after year after year.... not these dumb ass 28 days cylces followed by 6 weeks low dose and then 30 days off.....
borressen was a fellon, a drug addict, a conartist..... that is what he was.... he did not hide?








lol.. he hid from a lot of people... lot's of people wanted him dead....
he owed the wrong people money....if i remember correctly he was beaten up once... very badly.... as in almost dead...
he died of painkiller overdose....
also his bullshit about histamines.... lol....
gh15 hides... well for obvious reasons....
and it doesn't matter who he is..... he stands for something....
but i will tell you what....
get a labrat..... put him on the borressen course....
get another labrat put him on gh15 his protocols.....
i know which one will look waaaaaay better.....
and who did gh15 train??? yeah i have no idea...
but lots of people here on this site, that do things the way he laid out....
and some serious good bodybuilders are among these dudes.....
oh and gh15 is not my hero.... lol.... i happen to agree with his ideas (i know for a fact that they are 100% spot on!!) , and like his sense of humor....
and about the victor stuff....
I DO NOT CARE!!! lol.... i am about PED's.... and gettin info out... and outing the liars..
my opinion about vic??
you do not spend months in jail for just visa issues.... anyway.... lol....
maybe gh15 has connections, maybe he doesn't..... who cares.....?
as long as he is here spilling gold..... that is what is important....
if he likes to fuck around a little doing so..... fine by me....
i like him.... and his info is worth it's weight in gold...!
and borressen is still an idiot.....
