Gh15? Who was GH15?

[Van_Bilderass]

Are you sure about that? because China to Canada is a long ways away and the blood work is done after all what you wrote above and the numbers are still through the roof

I think it's more stable than people think, but then I read some speculation that ghrp's could be responsible for some of these high numbers.

[El Diablo Blanco]

yes agrree, many will never feel anything either way,but it works regardless.

some even one time stay dry other time get watwry from the very same pharma prodcut.

weird.

yes ofc theres some smart chinese who are also good businessmen,theyll have good products.and the ppl needed to pull it off arent so expensive in china,afterall.


i heard claims recently that this doesnt matter nomore with one brand,i forgot which one.

maybe its just ppl repeating what they heard maybe theres soemthing to it

The nordipen I think, but those are $200 for just 10IU

[OTHstrong]

The nordipen I think, but those are $200 for just 10IU

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[El Diablo Blanco]

I could just be on crack

How comes people(me included) have serum tested some chinese generics and the results have come back as having high GH level in the blood comparable to prescription pharma grade serum tests?

I posted on previous post my blood test result from a lab in london on rips and was 29.7 ug/l. normal range is under 0.8 ug/l....how did that happen if chinese GH cannot withstand shipping, when i live in london?

i don't think un reconstituted GH is as delicate as some people think.

[El Diablo Blanco]

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The recommened dose is 1 IU for kids who are growth stunted.  so it lasts a while

[Van_Bilderass]

The recommened dose is 1 IU for kids who are growth stunted.  so it lasts a while

It can be considerably higher than that.

http://www.drugs.com/dosage/somatropin.html

[Conker]

I could just be on crack

think more likely you're just repeating something you heard but don't actually have any clue about, unless you yourself tested generic GH whether lab or blood test you are just going on what you've been told. I have blood tested 3 chinese generics in a mainstream london lab, one brand kigs came back at 0.3ug/l . black top elitropin came back at 13 ug/ and riptropins came back at 29.7 ug/l

it's printed on my results that normal range is under 0.8 ug/l ...how the fuck did i manage to get 13 and 29.7 ug/l growth hormone concentration in my blood ,if chinese GH can't survive shipping? maybe I am acromegalic?

i tried to post scans of my blood tests in earlier post but seem not to have come up.

[a_pupil]

I think Alex is in California somewhere. But "everyone" has said it's a ton of different people sharing the gimmick. But then these same guys, like Dante, say it's Brad the alcoholic from Florida.
I think Chaos is pretty sure it's Special Ed.

I remember when Disgusted said Ron told him who he hought it was. Said it wasn't a pro, but "knew his shit". Wonder who this was.

 



it was van bilderass all along

[bigmc]

I don't check this shit for 2 days and I come back to a complete meltdown spewing misinformation and calling me unintelligent.

You guys obv have it figured out.

Buying face to face... The fuck?

fuck off with your shitty agenda

if you dont know guys you can get good gear from you dont know shit

the whole online crap on your site was used to rinse the fuck out of people and get your cut

[macos]

How comes people(me included) have serum tested some chinese generics and the results have come back as having high GH level in the blood comparable to prescription pharma grade serum tests?

I posted on previous post my blood test result from a lab in london on rips and was 29.7 ug/l. normal range is under 0.8 ug/l....how did that happen if chinese GH cannot
withstand shipping, when i live in london?

i don't think un reconstituted GH is as delicate as some people think.

Shipping does lead to a loss in the potency of the peptide. No arguments on that.
I support Chinese GH for quality, only thing is you have to use more than pharma in quantity to get same level of blood conc.
Last Olympics had the Chinese almost toppling USA from the top of the medal tally. Chinese generic tops fellas.

[OTHstrong]

fuck off with your shitty agenda

if you dont know guys you can get good gear from you dont know shit

the whole online crap on your site was used to rinse the fuck out of people and get your cut

exactly and not to mention, the sources were not established well known sources, wtf we are suppose to take it on faith. lol

[Conker]

Shipping does lead to a loss in the potency of the peptide. No arguments on that.
I support Chinese GH for quality, only thing is you have to use more than pharma in quantity to get same level of blood conc.
Last Olympics had the Chinese almost toppling USA from the top of the medal tally. Chinese generic tops fellas.

Maybe there is a potential for some loss of potency but you simply can't test 29.7 ug/l when the normal range is under 0.8 ug/l if as the previous poster said the GH is destroyed beyond recognition by shipping. that is a minimum of 37 x above normal range

And I have see a good few results of people testing with pharma grade GH that they got from pharmacy with prescription that didn't test a whole lot higher for 10iu ...so from that i would conclude shipping didn't effect what i got too much or perhaps was originally overdosed to compensate for that factor(?)

[macos]

Maybe there is a potential for some loss of potency but you simply can't test 29.7 ug/l when the normal range is under 0.8 ug/l if as the previous poster said the GH is destroyed beyond recognition by shipping. that is a minimum of 37 x above normal range

And I have see a good few results of people testing with pharma grade GH that they got from pharmacy with prescription that didn't test a whole lot higher for 10iu ...so from that i would conclude shipping didn't effect what i got too much or perhaps was originally overdosed to compensate for that factor(?)

You got it shipped right.
The Chinese are probably overdosing to compensate for the degradation.

[Conker]

You got it shipped right.
The Chinese are probably overdosing to compensate for the degradation.

yeh that would make sense.

[bigmc]

You got it shipped right.
The Chinese are probably overdosing to compensate for the degradation.

ive always wondered that

its hard to believe if it wasnt refrigerated in a stable environment during shipping

that there would be any left when you got it

considering the warnings say if you put the water straight onto the powder you fuck it up

[macos]

ive always wondered that

its hard to believe if it wasnt refrigerated in a stable environment during shipping

that there would be any left when you got it

considering the warnings say if you put the water straight onto the powder you fuck it up

Those are ideal paper rules.
Reality bit different. Those rules are by the drug regulatorsto maintain ideal conditions. Its like meds even after expiry, have the same effect. I would not recommend to trr that though.

[Van_Bilderass]

Those are ideal paper rules.
Reality bit different. Those rules are by the drug regulatorsto maintain ideal conditions. Its like meds even after expiry, have the same effect. I would not recommend to trr that though.

Yeah they can only GUARANTEE full potency under those conditions.

About not spraying water on the puck, they only say not to shake it outright.

[Conker]

ive always wondered that

its hard to believe if it wasnt refrigerated in a stable environment during shipping

that there would be any left when you got it

considering the warnings say if you put the water straight onto the powder you fuck it up

There's a lot of regurgitated BS that gets spread about how delicate and temperature sensitive GH is. Serono advise to store GH vials at room temp up to 86°F until reconstituted.

16 HOW SUPPLIED/STORAGE AND HANDLING
16.1 How Supplied
Serostim®
 is available in the following forms:
• Serostim®
 single-use vials containing 5 mg with Sterile Water for Injection, USP. Package
of 7 vials. NDC 44087-0005-7
• Serostim®
 single-use vials containing 6 mg with Sterile Water for Injection, USP. Package
of 7 vials. NDC 44087-0006-7
• Serostim multiple-use vials containing 4 mg with Bacteriostatic Water for Injection, USP
(0.9% Benzyl Alcohol). Package of 7 vials. NDC 44087-0004-7
16.2 Storage and Handling
Before reconstitution: Vials of Serostim®
 and diluent should be stored at room temperature, (15°-
30°C/59°-86°F). Expiration dates are stated on product labels.
Single-use vials: After reconstitution with Sterile Water for Injection, USP, the reconstituted solution
should be used immediately and any unused portion should be discarded.
Multi-use vials: After reconstitution with Bacteriostatic Water for Injection, USP (0.9% Benzyl Alcohol),
the reconstituted solution should be stored under refrigeration (2-8o
C/36-46o
F) for up to 14 days.

[macos]

actually that temp is for "just before reconstitution".
Pharm companies supply fridge and pay for storage of peptides to the medicine wholesalers and retailers.

[Conker]

actually that temp is for "just before reconstitution".
Pharm companies supply fridge and pay for storage of peptides to the medicine wholesalers and retailers.

It states "storage and handling" I'm pretty sure if they wanted you to keep it in a fridge then take it out and leave at room temperature just before reconstitution, they would mention that in their storage and handling instructions...the only mention of refrigeration is with multi shot vials after reconstitution. 

[OTHstrong]

ive always wondered that

its hard to believe if it wasnt refrigerated in a stable environment during shipping

that there would be any left when you got it

considering the warnings say if you put the water straight onto the powder you fuck it up

No offence to anyone here but I am with conker on this one, my friend kept his gh in his car by accident in the summer for 2 weeks, then he throw it in his closet for months thinking it was no good. Then decided to try it anyway and tested it. He dropped an entire vial, got blood work done and the numbers were pretty high.

I don't call BS on all these precautions on temperature and conditions but nevertheless exaggerated a lot

[macos]

It states "storage and handling" I'm pretty sure if they wanted you to keep it in a fridge then take it out and leave at room temperature just before reconstitution, they would mention that in their storage and handling instructions...the only mention of refrigeration is with multi shot vials after reconstitution. 

I have never used serostim and none of my peeps too. Cannot say much about it.

We do use humatrope(eli lilly) and genotropin( U. John). The storage for powder reads 2-8° C.

The company supplies only in cold boxes too.

[Conker]

I have never used serostim and none of my peeps too. Cannot say much about it.

We do use humatrope(eli lilly) and genotropin( U. John). The storage for powder reads 2-8° C.

The company supplies only in cold boxes too.

yeh just checked the eli lilly website and as you say there is a big difference between their storage instructions and seronos . well either serostim is a far more stable product than humatrope or eli are just being very, very cautious ...(?)

all i know is the blood tests i've personally done proved that i had extremely elevated levels of serum GH with elitropins and then even more so with rips and both came from china and probably were in carriage for roughly a week each time. So i know for a fact people saying that chines GH is all bunk or can't survive the shipping etc are talking shit. I know you weren't saying that btw.

[pellius]

yeh just checked the eli lilly website and as you say there is a big difference between their storage instructions and seronos . well either serostim is a far more stable product than humatrope or eli are just being very, very cautious ...(?)

all i know is the blood tests i've personally done proved that i had extremely elevated levels of serum GH with elitropins and then even more so with rips and both came from china and probably were in carriage for roughly a week each time. So i know for a fact people saying that chines GH is all bunk or can't survive the shipping etc are talking shit. I know you weren't saying that btw.

The popularity (and even the discovery) of the gh serum test in the last two years or so has really been a game changer. Lab tests don't lie. And it's easy and cheap to do. Scammer won't last long because word spreads fast. And even the more insidious selective scammers are in a bind too because reputation is everything. Before they could get away with sending bad batches to nobodies and good batches to trusted vets because the knew nobody would listen to the nobodies but with the lab test they are taking a big risks. Once the word gets outs out news travels fast. Elis jumped all over this but reintroducing their "new and improved" Black tops once people were on to them when bad batches started coming out. Only Rips so far has an unblemished reputation other than the severe water retention many complain about. But there is no doubt there is gh in there.

[bigmc]

see below turns out running that fat mouth of his wasnt the best idea 

This means that GH15 is a buffoon who has been scamming and lying to people for YEARS. He has also been threatening people for years, has posted that he took down his enemies in ORD thats right he claims credit for ORD in writing. He posts the pictures and names of the minor CHILDREN of his supposed enemies (anyone that complained about his kigtrtoping scam) most recently he threatened a private internet suppplier who he felt was a threat to his pet kickback producer Strango. He threatened her, he was told to back off. He went into his mod room declaring that he and his mods were wolves and they were at war with her. So she and her partner nuked his site.

If he manages to land any remnants of the forum he has left we will do it again. We may all get to enjoy a repeat of this experience Does anyone really need any more of that scamming lying coward pussy as narc no avi phaggot?

What I find shocking is that he has been doing this for years and no one has ever stood up to him. He is a retarded buffoon liar that posts one thing in the juniors and the truth to his mods. IT IS ALL A SCAM. GH threatens people with the DEA and the police. Who does that? A pussy. A pussy that has no power. He acts like his penis is a mass spectromoter he doesnt even science and he barely even English. There are consequences to actions and when you declare war on someone it is probably best to be prepared for them to act. What. A. ****ing. Fool.

But retards gun retard and goofs gun goof and he dun goofed big this time. All it had to do was STFU but of course it couldn't shut its crazy high on drugs half retarded mouth and now it has paid the price.

We doesn't afraid of GH15. Any of his former mods who havent already come to their senses as some have (imagine him as Laos and the operation we speak of as the Soviet Union and you will get an idea of how reckless it was for PH15 to declare this war. However there he went declaring he was at war. Any of the moderators of his former forum who havent already realized the only sensible action is to completely disassociate, the rest of them can take this as a warning that they are on a sinking ship. GH15 declared a war with his mouth that his website couldn't fight. He lost. Anyone associated with him had best abandon ship now cuz it has done SUNK.

He threatens to turn people in to LE. He posts private information on public forums he is a menace to this entire community and it is time for someone to get rid of him. He sent the right person an engraved invitation to do just that.

You're welcome.