Gh15? Who was GH15?

[pellius]

Maybe you can answer it Pellius...

Why is it so many of you older guys take what goes on on and internet message board so seriously?
I mean, these are guys that you'll probably never meet in your life, many are anonymous and are flat out lying to you (GH15 himself is anonymous, yet many older guys chose to follow this troll around like a lapdog, meanwhile he's laughing at grown men who're listening to a anonymous dude they've never met on a message board like it's life and death)....
So many people get kicks out of getting others to believe they're someone they're not... and in GH15's case, he practically started his own little cult of people that listened to everything he said! I mean, you guys get on here and act like people you are working with or are friends IRL are insulting you.... These people are not your friends. They are not real people, they are internet posters.

Yet you guys allow yourself to get so wrapped up and take it seriously, while the other guys are laughing and toying with you. Clearly you must see that you guys are the ones losing, not the anonymous dude that won't post a pic when you challenge him or call him a liar..... they win when you either
A.Get mad

or

B.Take them seriously.

So what is it? Why can't you separate reality from the internet?

I'm not sure who you mean specifically in regard to "older guys" or what is meant by taking it so seriously. bigmc and Groink are no kids and they take very seriously when certain things are posted on the net. "1" obviously takes some post so seriously that he'll delete it. Some thing are serious some things are not. Remember when one of the members where was exposed as a pedophile? That seemed serious to me.

As far as taken advice from anonymous people on the net, that happens all the time. There are threads all over the boards where people are giving advice on the use and application of various compounds. I was just reading over that long thread by Kreas regarding anti-e. People are on the boards all the time asking about various products. Google hygetropin and you'll find endless discussions and recommendations. If someone is a long time vet and has a good reputation he is taken more seriously. For example, there's Micro, a long time vet on the boards that has an unblemished reputation for honestly and knowledge. If he says that a certain hgh is good to go I will believe him even though I've never met him irl. People seem to follow that beefyheavyweight (or is it HeavyweightBeef?)  guy and wait with bated breath for his steroid advice. BassKiller has been a long time internet steroid guru and very few know him irl. So again, gh15 isn't unique in that regard.

And of course I believe you can make friends over the net even though you have never met. I would imagine that bigmc and chaos considers themselves friends. I consider myself a friend of Wes and Metal even though I never met them.

And, again, I'm not sure what you mean by "losing"? Losing what? I'm on the gh15 board. I'm on this board. I'm on Sherdog board. I'm on Politico.com. I'm just on the board, man. To me it's not a matter of winning or losing. I'm not getting your point. If gh15's board is gone forever I don't think I've lost though I will consider it a lost because there was a lot of good information on the board. But I'm not going to cry over it. His board hasn't been around for 2 years yet and I've manage to get through the other without gh15 org. I think I'll survive.

And again I still don't understand this internet vs reality. That depends. When I use to fight with Sev and talk about flying from Hawaii to Romania that's all hot head balonie. Saying that I'm going to piss on someone's grave  or somewhat saying I'm a  homless, HIV infected homo who steals from the church is just GetBig give and take balonie. After pounding your keyboard hopefully you can leave the computer and forget about it and go about your life. So that's not reality. Ordering something off Amazon and not getting your product or having it damaged and the supplier doesn't want to replace it (as I'm currently experiencing) -- that is real life. Ordering gear that is underdosed or gives you an abscess or just get out right scammed -- that is real life. So as in all things it is the context that makes the determination.

What I have noticed in regards to the various "ownings" that go on here: it's always a joke when it's happening to someone else. It only gets serious when you're the target. Again context is everything.      

[El Diablo Blanco]

Now, we will see what Valiant has to say regarding this matter.

"1"

I heard she's hot.  Will she PTPS?

[Mr Nobody]

Terrible thread.

[pellius]

I would still like to see the proof OMR has that the gh15 account was started by the 4 posters
he mentions. He says there are screen caps, "logs", all these proofs of public communications
on this board. Why not post the proof and settle it once and for all? I mean he says all of it has been shown many times in the past (I never saw it despite being here almost every day). Alternately I would trust Ron if he backed OMR here in this thread, but I know he won't get involved. If Ron said, "yes the account was started by those guys, we all knew it from the start but we allowed it to go on for years for fun and games" then I would trust him. I remember Bob Chick even asked Nasser about it but why would he when he was a mod here and friend of Ron's and knew it was just Alex, Block and Special Ed (along with their davidpaul gimmick account) fucking around?

The only one who "admitted" to using the account was Alex, the rest deny it.
Everyone on this board knows Alex is a major bullshitter and master gimmicker bordering on the insane, so no one in their right mind would trust his word. OMR says he suspects Alex probably was posting from the account until Nasser's death and now he's back here instead stinking up the place. Really? Why in the fuck is Alex still welcomed on this board then, why is OMR friendly with Alex still?

Why am I harping on this? I'm just curious. I want to know how right or wrong I am. I've followed this saga from the start and everyone "knows" who did what but I have seen zero proof or even a very likely explanation. I'm really fucking curious.

I have no interest in buying/selling drugs on the net, unlike many on this thread. I think the majority in this scene are fucking retards as all this drama proves.

I second this post. I've been on this board forever and followed all things gh15. I've never seen this proof. So I figure if I haven't seen it many others haven't as well.

Also, this notion that these guys got together to create this gh15 character what was the reason for it. What was their end game. It hardly seemed like it was just to balonie around. Remember the very heated and epic debates with Milos? Didn't sound like balonie to me? I know what the gh15 character said regarding why he came on this board and that was always consistent. Despite what people like to say he never sold drugs on this board. Nobody sent him any money or communicated with the gh15 account to make deals.

[kohl]

Today we approved the Valiant account. This new member is supposedly behind the demise of gh15's website.

When that member posts and opens up about what he/she knows, we should all be entertained.

Regarding the evidence as to those 4 guys being behind the account, you don't have to take my word for it.

What I will tell you is that I am a natural (never used a steroid in my life or any type of illegal drug for that matter). I have never benefited in any way from the gh15 nonsense. I have no reason to lie to you or anyone else about what I have seen and have been provided with in the past.

The information you seek is in the hands of others on this forum. If they decide to provide you with the information, that is up to them.

It is not my place to unearth the proof, as it was presented to me by someone else and that person alone deserves the accolades for their work and the benefit of presenting it themselves, if they so please.

Like I said, you don't have to believe anything I say regarding this matter, but realize that I have no reason to lie to you. The user gh15 and I got along quite fine throughout the years. GH15 had no qualms with me and I had no qualms with GH15.

The only reason I mention what I have seen regarding the 4 guys behind the account is ONLY because I saw the proof with my own eyes.

"1"

^^

And an hour ago you were playing the hormone expert who was able to judge if what gh15 said was knowledgable or not.

You said this:


To assume that I don't have the adequate knowledge to ascertain who knows what about drug/hormone use on these forums is foolish, friend.

I have been in this bodybuilding game for over 30 fucking years, longer than many of our members have been alive.

I have trained with some of the top pros in the IFBB, some of which have been lifelong friends of mine (Bob Chick, Victor Martinez, Kamali, Rob Lopez, Desmond Miller, Jason Arntz and even a few others that I care not to mention) and have also had the same trainers/nutritionists that many of those guys had (Victor Muņoz, Aceto & a few others).


And now suddenly you're a natural?? HOW CAN A NATURAL HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT BODYBUILDERS ARE TALKING ABOUT?? (And now I'm verrry nice, giving you credit for being a true natural)

Sorry man, I respect you as a person and as a sportsman, but you're not a bodybuilder!

Judge gh15 for what he says outside the hormone game, but don't come here saying that he doesn't know his stuff. That is not your territory. Having walked next to an IFBB pro a few times in your life doesn't make you a hormone expert.

[monstermunch]

You can't refer to them as 'he'. GH15 was a collective, the account posted on here admitting it wasn't just one person posting.

[Kim Jong Bob]

I don't take the internet seriously, you will never see me with 1000's of posts. Bad luck for you guys but I'm on a vacation so I have some time to post and ennoy the shit out of you.

Only the fools get played, and I don't care about fools. Most older guys are wise enough to distinguish the juvenile bullshit from things that matter for our lifestyle. Every serious bodybuilder has, in one way or another, been entertained by the gh15 phenomenon since 2005, here on getbig and then on the other side. No one can deny that.

you should post more on the steroid board its not like here and no one will attack you etc.

[Shockwave]

I'm not sure who you mean specifically in regard to "older guys" or what is meant by taking it so seriously. bigmc and Groink are no kids and they take very seriously when certain things are posted on the net. "1" obviously takes some post so seriously that he'll delete it. Some thing are serious some things are not. Remember when one of the members where was exposed as a pedophile? That seemed serious to me.

As far as taken advice from anonymous people on the net, that happens all the time. There are threads all over the boards where people are giving advice on the use and application of various compounds. I was just reading over that long thread by Kreas regarding anti-e. People are on the boards all the time asking about various products. Google hygetropin and you'll find endless discussions and recommendations. If someone is a long time vet and has a good reputation he is taken more seriously. For example, there's Micro, a long time vet on the boards that has an unblemished reputation for honestly and knowledge. If he says that a certain hgh is good to go I will believe him even though I've never met him irl. People seem to follow that beefyheavyweight (or is it HeavyweightBeef?)  guy and wait with bated breath for his steroid advice. BassKiller has been a long time internet steroid guru and very few know him irl. So again, gh15 isn't unique in that regard.

And of course I believe you can make friends over the net even though you have never met. I would imagine that bigmc and chaos considers themselves friends. I consider myself a friend of Wes and Metal even though I never met them.

And, again, I'm not sure what you mean by "losing"? Losing what? I'm on the gh15 board. I'm on this board. I'm on Sherdog board. I'm on Politico.com. I'm just on the board, man. To me it's not a matter of winning or losing. I'm not getting your point. If gh15's board is gone forever I don't think I've lost though I will consider it a lost because there was a lot of good information on the board. But I'm not going to cry over it. His board hasn't been around for 2 years yet and I've manage to get through the other without gh15 org. I think I'll survive.

And again I still don't understand this internet vs reality. That depends. When I use to fight with Sev and talk about flying from Hawaii to Romania that's all hot head balonie. Saying that I'm going to piss on someone's grave  or somewhat saying I'm a  homless, HIV infected homo who steals from the church is just GetBig give and take balonie. After pounding your keyboard hopefully you can leave the computer and forget about it and go about your life. So that's not reality. Ordering something off Amazon and not getting your product or having it damaged and the supplier doesn't want to replace it (as I'm currently experiencing) -- that is real life. Ordering gear that is underdosed or gives you an abscess or just get out right scammed -- that is real life. So as in all things it is the context that makes the determination.

What I have noticed in regards to the various "ownings" that go on here: it's always a joke when it's happening to someone else. It only gets serious when you're the target. Again context is everything.      

I wasnt talking about you necessarily... just so many older guys seem to get so worked up when some faceless troll fucks with then, or take a shyster at face value and defend a fake nobody just like those they freak about about because he says a couple things that are legit.

some of these guys are successful middle age guys and they let some faceless trolls get them screaming pissed, asking to meet up and challengineg to post pics... when the dudes only goal is to get a reaction. Or they get involved in drama like high school chicks. I don't get it.

[kohl]

you should post more on the steroid board its not like here and no one will attack you etc.

You're right, the steroid board and the training board is where I belong. That's where I posted 99% of the time, here and over there.

For me this here is a waste of time. After all those years still discussing with non-bodybuilders if gh15's teaching are knowledgable or not... why even bothering?

I go to sleep, Pellius wakes up on the other side of the globe and takes over ;-)

Go for it man. The dealer slut is coming to tell us she's a saint, it'll be fun.

[Kim Jong Bob]

I would still like to see the proof OMR has that the gh15 account was started by the 4 posters
he mentions. He says there are screen caps, "logs", all these proofs of public communications
on this board. Why not post the proof and settle it once and for all? I mean he says all of it has been shown many times in the past (I never saw it despite being here almost every day). Alternately I would trust Ron if he backed OMR here in this thread, but I know he won't get involved. If Ron said, "yes the account was started by those guys, we all knew it from the start but we allowed it to go on for years for fun and games" then I would trust him. I remember Bob Chick even asked Nasser about it but why would he when he was a mod here and friend of Ron's and knew it was just Alex, Block and Special Ed (along with their davidpaul gimmick account) fucking around?

The only one who "admitted" to using the account was Alex, the rest deny it.
Everyone on this board knows Alex is a major bullshitter and master gimmicker bordering on the insane, so no one in their right mind would trust his word. OMR says he suspects Alex probably was posting from the account until Nasser's death and now he's back here instead stinking up the place. Really? Why in the fuck is Alex still welcomed on this board then, why is OMR friendly with Alex still?

Why am I harping on this? I'm just curious. I want to know how right or wrong I am. I've followed this saga from the start and everyone "knows" who did what but I have seen zero proof or even a very likely explanation. I'm really fucking curious.

I have no interest in buying/selling drugs on the net, unlike many on this thread. I think the majority in this scene are fucking retards as all this drama proves.

good post. I cant see anyone of those guys have the same knowledge about gear as gh15. ..and alex ks the last lne vere k would trust.he dont know shit about roids and gh15s writing style have been the  same the last years and i dont think that 3-4 guys can write the same way and as you said if it was only alex no way in hell he cojld give the sale advice about gear as gh15 and he doesnt seem to know anything now after nassers death so i dont think nasser leaened alex alot about roids

[OneMoreRep]

And now suddenly you're a natural?? HOW CAN A NATURAL HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT BODYBUILDERS ARE TALKING ABOUT?? (And now I'm verrry nice, giving you credit for being a true natural)

That's what happens when you spend 30+ years working out side-by-side with IFBB pros, you learn things. It's also what happens when you have the same trainers as those pros have, you learn things.

You don't have to be a drug user to know about drugs.

Pharmacists know a shitload more about drugs than any bodybuilder, but they're not drug users or addicts.

Physicians know a lot more about the disease condition than those afflicted by it, but they're not faced with the condition.

Sorry man, I respect you as a person and as a sportsman, but you're not a bodybuilder!

So, if a person has never used steroids, he is not a bodybuilder? That's good to know.

Judge gh15 for what he says outside the hormone game, but don't come here saying that he doesn't know his stuff. That is not your territory. Having walked next to an IFBB pro a few times in your life doesn't make you a hormone expert.

I might not be a hormone expert, but I've dabbled in academia in such a way (Premed Bio/Chem degree, followed by a masters in Chem) that has given me intricate knowledge of most drugs.

"1"

[pellius]

I wasnt talking about you necessarily... just so many older guys seem to get so worked up when some faceless troll fucks with then, or take a shyster at face value and defend a fake nobody just like those they freak about about because he says a couple things that are legit.

some of these guys are successful middle age guys and they let some faceless trolls get them screaming pissed, asking to meet up and challengineg to post pics... when the dudes only goal is to get a reaction. Or they get involved in drama like high school chicks. I don't get it.

Oh, now you tell me. I wrote all that, pissing off CalvinH again in the process for nothing.

But in answer to your question. I don't really know. This falls under internet balonie so not to be taken too seriously. I mean, look at that Shizzo character. His life is this board. I don't know why. And I don't really care. People have different reactions and involvement in these boards. I mean, you read sometimes where a person will kill themselves because of "cyber bullying". I don't get it but I don't preoccupy myself with it. You shouldn't either. Unless you want to take it seriously.  

[Kim Jong Bob]

Terrible thread.

fuck off noobie

[Mr Nobody]

fuck off noobie

I will continue on with cleaning my house now.

[dustin]

I really don't know what's wrong with you. I never said you are a criminal. You simply misread my post and having yet another meltdown. Read again"

"I rarely went on that "filt" board. It seemed just the same old, same old. Whitewidow is filt and a criminal. Dustin is filt and a criminal. Bigmc filt and criminal."

When you were banned and everybody was jumping on the "Dustin is filt" bandwagon to ingratiate themselves with gh15 only two people stood up for you: Me and Metal. When I got word that Homophoric came over here to attack you in the most vicious way I was the first to come over here and defend you. I went back to the mod section on gh15 and raise hell. That this person was embarrassing our board with his racist and vicious attacks and threats. That person that sent you "legal supplements" was not coerce or bribed to do anything. He came out openly against you explain how you came to him crying about your low testosterone but didn't have any money and needed help. So he sent you free "supplements" and regretted it and gave gh15 or Lean your address. Then I get some ranting PM from you calling me a coward and having no integrity. I was completely unaware of what was on that "GetBig filt" board because I never went on it. It was only when someone contacted me about "1" that I went on it and deleted that information on him. How many people do you think would unilaterally delete information on gh15's hit board? Zero. Except me. So imagine how I felt being one of the few to openly defend you, getting nothing but shit for it and then called a traitor and a coward in that meltdown PM from you? Of all the people that jumped on the band wagon and threw you under the bus you came after me.

You admitted to past drug use, suicidal tendencies, begging for free supplements, turning on one of the very few that stood up for you, always seemed like on the verge of a nervous breakdown on our board ("Burned by the cult! Burned by the cult!") and I am the pathetic one? You just seem to me to be an emotional unstable individual. OK. Live and let live.

I don't use drugs. I've tried very few recs in my life. But please accept my apologies and understand that crazy threats and accusations are constantly made, that's why I've come to expect it. Also read this on the ferry on my phone which was very rocky.

Cheers.

[Kim Jong Bob]

I will continue on with cleaning my house now.

haha sounds like a spendid idea i should do the same

[kohl]

That's what happens when you spend 30+ years working out side-by-side with IFBB pros, you learn things. It's also what happens when you have the same trainers as those pros have, you learn things.

You don't have to be a drug user to know about drugs.

Hormones are different. It's complicated since it's a delicate mixture of bro science with real science. Empiric research is extremely important as there is no exact textbook knowledge. It's underground science going from Dan Duchaine to Big Cat and others.


Pharmacists know a shitload more about drugs than any bodybuilder, but they're not drug users or addicts.

No they don't. They really don't. Don't underestimate real bodybuilders.


Physicians know a lot more about the disease condition than those afflicted by it, but they're not faced with the condition.

So, if a person has never used steroids, he is not a bodybuilder? That's good to know.

Exactly. Glad I learned you something.

I might not be a hormone expert, but I've dabbled in academia in such a way (Premed Bio/Chem degree, followed by a masters in Chem) that has given me intricate knowledge of most drugs.

Congrats for your conviction, but you're making real bodybuilders smile. If you never touched hormones yourself, all you can do is repeat what others told you about it, and I can tell you there is a lot of bullshit being said about hormones, even in textbooks. The secret of hormones hasn't entirely been solved yet, we're learning every day, from experience and from new evidence.


"1"

Honestly I don't believe that you're a natural for several reasons but I won't get into that since I'm not that allergic to filt ;-)

But take it from me and I think I can also speak for Big Cat, guys who experimented every single product on ourselves and not ready to take ANY bullshit about hormones even if it comes from an IFBB Pro:

WHO EVER IS BEHIND THAT ACCOUNT SINCE 2005, THIS GUY KNOWS HIS SHIT!!!

[dustin]

Honestly I don't believe that you're a natural for several reasons but I won't get into that since I'm not that allergic to filt ;-)

But take it from me and I think I can also speak for Big Cat, guys who experimented every single product on ourselves and not ready to take ANY bullshit about hormones even if it comes from an IFBB Pro:

WHO EVER IS BEHIND THAT ACCOUNT SINCE 2005, THIS GUY KNOWS HIS SHIT!!!

No one has ever doubted that. Even when he and I took different paths and burned bridges. Only an idiot would deny it. If he's not a pro, he's at least tight at hell with many.

[OneMoreRep]

Honestly I don't believe that you're a natural for several reasons but I won't get into that since I'm not that allergic to filt ;-)

But take it from me and I think I can also speak for Big Cat, guys who experimented every single product on ourselves and not ready to take ANY bullshit about hormones even if it comes from an IFBB Pro:

WHO EVER IS BEHIND THAT ACCOUNT SINCE 2005, THIS GUY KNOWS HIS SHIT!!!

Look man, I really don't care...

I come here to enjoy the high quality humor, the witty back-and-forth between members, the funny photoshops, the industry gossip that is always here before anywhere else, the show coverage, the insider info that pros often time drop in this forum under the guise of a gimmick, the drama that is GetBig and because Ron is a good friend.

I don't come here to learn how to bodybuild. I learned how to properly build muscles a long time ago. I've been bodybuilding for over 3 decades and I don't need a forum to teach me new tricks. Human anatomy and physiology is not that difficult to understand.

I don't come here to learn about where to find a good drug dealer or a source. I don't use drugs. Steroid use is for some, but not for all. If that is your thing, I respect that and by no means will condemn you for your use.

I don't come here to learn from guys that have served as walking guinea pigs for the edification of hormone use. That doesn't interest me. 

I also don't come here to worship any other men who hide behind the safety of anonymity.

I come to GetBig for many things, but I do not come here to follow any other man.

We will have to agree to disagree. Unfortunately, I don't have the interest to keep up a conversation to see who can garner one point above the other. If you don't believe what I have to say regarding the identity of gh15, then so be it. Gh15's identity makes no difference in my world. If this shit truly bothered me as much as it does to some, I would simply delete this thread, as I have done with many gh15 threads in the past.

Truth be told, tomorrow you guys will create another nook on the internet and you folks will be on your way just as you have in the past. If you decide to stay (as Wes, Dustin, AlphaMaleDawg and JohnnyNoName have decided to do) that is your prerogative. If you decide to leave, I wish you the very best in life.

Fair?

"1"

[Palpatine Q]

I'm not sure who you mean specifically in regard to "older guys" or what is meant by taking it so seriously. bigmc and Groink are no kids and they take very seriously when certain things are posted on the net. "1" obviously takes some post so seriously that he'll delete it. Some thing are serious some things are not. Remember when one of the members where was exposed as a pedophile? That seemed serious to me.

As far as taken advice from anonymous people on the net, that happens all the time. There are threads all over the boards where people are giving advice on the use and application of various compounds. I was just reading over that long thread by Kreas regarding anti-e. People are on the boards all the time asking about various products. Google hygetropin and you'll find endless discussions and recommendations. If someone is a long time vet and has a good reputation he is taken more seriously. For example, there's Micro, a long time vet on the boards that has an unblemished reputation for honestly and knowledge. If he says that a certain hgh is good to go I will believe him even though I've never met him irl. People seem to follow that beefyheavyweight (or is it HeavyweightBeef?)  guy and wait with bated breath for his steroid advice. BassKiller has been a long time internet steroid guru and very few know him irl. So again, gh15 isn't unique in that regard.

And of course I believe you can make friends over the net even though you have never met. I would imagine that bigmc and chaos considers themselves friends. I consider myself a friend of Wes and Metal even though I never met them.

And, again, I'm not sure what you mean by "losing"? Losing what? I'm on the gh15 board. I'm on this board. I'm on Sherdog board. I'm on Politico.com. I'm just on the board, man. To me it's not a matter of winning or losing. I'm not getting your point. If gh15's board is gone forever I don't think I've lost though I will consider it a lost because there was a lot of good information on the board. But I'm not going to cry over it. His board hasn't been around for 2 years yet and I've manage to get through the other without gh15 org. I think I'll survive.

And again I still don't understand this internet vs reality. That depends. When I use to fight with Sev and talk about flying from Hawaii to Romania that's all hot head balonie. Saying that I'm going to piss on someone's grave  or somewhat saying I'm a  homless, HIV infected homo who steals from the church is just GetBig give and take balonie. After pounding your keyboard hopefully you can leave the computer and forget about it and go about your life. So that's not reality. Ordering something off Amazon and not getting your product or having it damaged and the supplier doesn't want to replace it (as I'm currently experiencing) -- that is real life. Ordering gear that is underdosed or gives you an abscess or just get out right scammed -- that is real life. So as in all things it is the context that makes the determination.

What I have noticed in regards to the various "ownings" that go on here: it's always a joke when it's happening to someone else. It only gets serious when you're the target. Again context is everything.      

Yeah crazy me I take it seriously when some fucking asshole posts pictures of my daughter and GF and offers money for more info on them.  And I really don't give a shit whether the pictures were public..private or stolen from my living room.  Wrong is wrong.

But you keep "justifying" it....very illuminating to say the least.

I'm curious...exactly what did I do...anyway ?  I never really said a fucking thing about your board.

[Van_Bilderass]

 Big Cat,

You mean this guy? He was on there?

[pellius]

I don't use drugs. I've tried very few recs in my life. But please accept my apologies and understand that crazy threats and accusations are constantly made, that's why I've come to expect it. Also read this on the ferry on my phone which was very rocky.

Cheers.

Dustin, I've always thought you were a good guy. You and Metal were my most trusted and go to guys in the mod section. You two were the only ones to publicly question and challenged gh15 so I knew I could trust you when I had misgivings and wanted to bring it out in the open. You were banned for the same reason Flint and JNN were banned. The powers that be just didn't think you fit in. Like JNN (who soon realized he was a "good fit" on the board) the people there just couldn't handle the plain spoken pull-no-punches style you guys have. As one that prowrestler guy put it in the thread about JJN's ban, "Insread of banning a guy like JNN who IS a good guy who gave both tuff love advise and REAL care aswell, mingled with his  very comedic persona, how bout banning the cry babies who are not mentally ready to be  on hormones and are only here to kiss ass."

Lets just forget about all that drama and bury the hatchet. You're a good guy and I don't want any bad blood between us.

[Valiant]

Real men don't declare war by running to their minions "help me help me"
Here is the proof that GH15 is not real, and surely not a  man.

He himself went to the DEA on 12/27/13 and the days prior - according to him... I wonder how wise that was drawing attention to his site.  A 404 for this long is very difficult to accomplish.  Maybe LE has the site and all the info on the members there. That is what I would think if I were GH.

[tommywishbone]

 

[monstermunch]

Pics?