My dear Pellius, nowhere was that point lost in translation. Here is part of my initial post:
In terms of nothing ever happening, you know that is not true.
Two members from that board did actually visit Dustin at his gym. That alone is a tremendous invasion of privacy and is clearly an intimidation tactic. If not for the fact that they had a sense of control and morality, who knows what they would have done for a year supply of growth hormone or whatever else he was offering.
That aside, you also have bigmc and pictures of his children being posted up for members to go and inflict harm upon his family. That is a fact and has been discussed on here and there ad nauseum.
Lets be fair and see the facts for what they are. Everyone likes you pellius, hence why so many of the members here cannot comprehend why you continue to follow such a morally corrupt leader. You seek the truth and to be on the side of good, yet you are following a leader that has no qualms in making innocent people and children targets. That screen cap posted by Valiant shows direct disdain by all of gh15's moderators to his decision to do that action. He didn't reply accordingly, instead he said that whoever removes his post is done there.
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I'll try to address each point in order.
What actually happened to Dustin? Some guys on the gh15 board just happened to be in the same gym as Dustin. Is anybody claiming that these kids tracked down Dustin and followed him around and when they choose to do their "hit" they decided to approach him in a public gym? And did they actually approach him and threatened him. And if they did. Then what did they do? My read is that they just happened to run into Dustin recognizing him from gh15 and started making comments. Either Dustin or the kids, and according to Dustin, they were kids, approach the other and eventually laughed it off. The idea that this was a planned and conceived plan to track down and do harm to Dustin I believe is false. And as I understand it, both Dustin and these gh15 hit men are actually friends whom Dustin has helped out in training. Quite different to what actually happened to Dave Mirza.
Now when the charge is made that pictures were posted and inflict harm upon his family. What exactly did that mean? What harm was to be inflicted? To beat up his wife and children? To kill them? And I don't exactly know what you mean when you say I follow gh15. I support him on things that I support: his support of Israel, his battle against narcotics, exposing liars, love of America and recognizing that America is a force for good in this world, his qualms and disgust for the direction are culture is going ("generation nothingness"), admiration of Ronald Reagan..... we are kindred spirits in so many ways. That's why I've always had a soft spot for him. But no one has gone against gh15 more than I have. You know that. I don't follow gh15. I follow God and my value system.
Now, keeping CalvinH in mind, I will end this post here but start another one and tell you a little secret about gh15 and the members there and why this wasn't taken as seriously as it is here.
