Gh15? Who was GH15?

[pellius]

true, he was just a lost poor & naive soul there that now has found his way home again

HIS RUDDER WAS A LITTLE OF COURSE OTHERWISE HE LANDED BELLY DOWN..

Truth. I guess his only crime is  just that hes a tad "slow". There has been the Same handful of guys on here including you and me who called this entire turn of events from day one. It was so obvious to us. I guess some people don't have as good foresight.

So it isn't Dennis James anymore?

You see, gh15. You see what you've done? See how I am mocked and publicly humiliated? How you've disgraced me? And there's nothing I can do. I can't even fight back. I have no grounds to fight back. I have to stand here like the chump you made me out to be and take my beating. 

And you talk about feeling hurt and betrayed. It always about you. In the end it was always about you.

[OneMoreRep]

There are no screenshots. Either OMR is lying or he misremembers/misunderstood something. As if no one else would have remembered this "proof".

I don't have to lie. The difference is that I was NEVER a gh15 follower. Never did I care about the bullshit he would post. Like many of the older guys here, I would simply not click on his threads. That's just what happens with people that don't use steroids, nonsense from an anonymous entity goes unnoticed.

The proof was shown to me by another moderator. If he/she decides to show it to the entire forum, that is their prerogative.

I am glad that Pellius realized what WE have ALL been saying for so damn long. Whenever the others decide to end this bullshit and air out the truth behind gh15's identities, it will end there.

Until then, you guys are free to believe whatever you'd like. I have nothing to gain/lose from anything gh15 related.

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P.S. I have absolutely no reason to make anything up about this bullshit. I saw what I saw and if that moderator decides to drop their proof in this thread, it will change the way you guys see this entire thing.

[Van_Bilderass]

Van B, a good, decent and reasonable and fair man. One of the most knowledgeable person on this board and all the board. One that gh15 himself praised. One that gh15 when he first left this board back in 2009 past the throne to him and wanted him to continue his "work". And the one to go to if anyone has any questions regarding hormones. But just because Van B didn't "follow" gh15 to his board gh15 told me that he was a politically correct (?) coward and a traitor. I just remember thinking, "Where did that "politically correct" stuff come from?

A "hint of egotism" as HeMan claims?

He asked me to mod it but I said how could I be a mod when I don't believe in moderation? Censorship kills everything. Ideas should be constantly challenged, that's how you learn. The more heavy-handed the moderation, the worse the board. I only tried that board for a short while and I thought it was the worst board ever, it made me depressed. Some fucking kids asking how much kigs Usain Bolt was using, how could you guys stand this type of shit?

gh15 thrived here where people could fight him. He was absolutely hilarious. Outside of it, not so much.

[johnnynoname]

I was more quoting Mickey Rourke in the Wrestler!....BTW I shaved off my beard and no longer can pull off the Bear of Christopher St....too handsome now.

was that a line in "The Wrestler"


actually I think it was


btw- good call back on the "bear of christopher street" reference

He tried to start a campaign in which all the members were REQUIRED (he spared the older members mentioning wes and myself because we're too old and set in our ways) to make youtube vids or proclaim in any social medium that "Hormones are not narcotics."

gh15 along with Lean continually scolded the board for lack of participation. They really thought people with jobs and families had time in their life to do this shit.

while this is true there are A LOT of dumb kids on that forum who would go to war for a faceless man

[Van_Bilderass]

I don't have to lie. The difference is that I was NEVER a gh15 follower. Never did I care about the bullshit he would post. Like many of the older guys here, I would simply not click on his threads. That's just what happens with people that don't use steroids, nonsense from an anonymous entity goes unnoticed.

The proof was shown to me by another moderator. If he/she decides to show it to the entire forum, that is their prerogative.

I am glad that Pellius realized what WE have ALL been saying for so damn long. Whenever the others decide to end this bullshit and air out the truth behind gh15's identities, it will end there.

Until then, you guys are free to believe whatever you'd like. I have nothing to gain/lose from anything gh15 related.

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P.S. I have absolutely no reason to make anything up about this bullshit. I saw what I saw and if that moderator decides to drop their proof in this thread, it will change the way you guys see this entire thing.

For what possible reason would this mod insist on sitting on this info now? You all would like to destroy him/them right? Why not end it now? gh15 has been shitting on this forum and Ron Avidan for a long time.

[pellius]

You stabbed gh15 in the back by coming out and making vulgar comments about him.  Yeah there's a hint of egotism in his posts and rightfully so.  He's led a movement and there's no stopping it. 

Valiant's not in jail because gh15 feels pity for the gal.  She's being controlled by higher ups and she just means well but the material she sells is out of her control.

I am a supporter and on that board, and I've been coming to defend gh15.  Okay I admit I may not to be very good nor articulate but I'm doing something.  I don't go on the board and talk about you there, Pellius, I do it here where you can respond.

Anyways, I feel you're fabricating the truth, and sprinkling interesting lies on it to make it satiable.

I can't stop shaking my head at this "hint of egotism" comment. gh15 has such an exaggerated sense of self-importance that his ego is beyond comprehension. You weren't here when he claimed that he and "Rick" were responsible for getting Sarah Palin on the Republican ticket. You weren't here when he had to back peddle with some far fetch outrageous excuse as to why he was wrong when McCain lost.

Nobody, not Lean, not g101 (Admin) not Bustin, not Neil, not ergo -- not anyone! Agreed with gh15 obsession with GetBig. I defy anyone on that board to come here and claim that they support his obsession with Getbig and say it with a straight face. So why is he so obsessed with this board? I told him myself -- EGO!

He likes to tell the story about how he left GetBig and that this board never forgave him. That they so desperately wanted him to stay. That Ron offered him big money to post on this board. But the truth is, and everybody knows it except gh15, which is why I claim his mind is twisted and not fully rational (I don't just call names. I base it on evidence.), is that he was driven off this board. He was mercilessly attacked, his posts moved to the steroid sections where it was read by a far smaller audience. It drove him crazy. He kept threatening to leave this board and people here just laughed at him. Told him good riddance. Bub-bye. Now of course he didn't want to leave because he needs a platform to rant but he painted himself into a corner. He did that when he gave another one of his ultimatums. I told him not to leave because I knew he couldn't stay away but if he leaves for chrissakes don't come back. He'll look like a fool. Well, he had no choice. Because he kept threatening to leave and gave an ulimatum even he realized that there are some minimal standards, even for him, to maintain some modicum of credibility. So he left. BUT.......

This presumably grown up man who judging by the era he waxed on about, was in his mid forties, contacted g101 (Admin on his board and author of this very ponderous but epic thread) to contact all the gh15ers and have them post on the board about how much they miss gh15. That the board isn't the same anymore and they so desperate miss him. They were asked to write  and plead for him to return. Of course, even I have my limits. I wouldn't do it. This pissed off g101 and gh15. In fact, gh15 would throw it back in my face a year later when we were having one of our disputes. But I told him, again trying to protect his credibility, that he has to stand my his word. If he says he's going to leave then he has to leave and never come back. But by starting this phony campaign. By requiring his truly genuine and sincere supporters to lower and degrade themselves and force themselves to post on this board pining for their leader like abandon children that gave him the excuse and opening he needed.

He came back on the board saying how he just didn't have the heart to abandon his pupils. He came back for them. His infinite benevolence super ceded any vow he made. It was for the love, mercy -- and pity for his pupils. What kind of rational human being does something like that?

So once again he came out looking like the hero at the expense of those who believed in him.

His obsession with this board was all about ego. It's always about his ego. It was all about him. It's always all about him.  

  

[OneMoreRep]

For what possible reason would this mod insist on sitting on this info now? You all would like to destroy him/them right? Why not end it now? gh15 has been shitting on this forum and Ron Avidan for a long time.

I told you before, the right to distribute that information is not mine.

The person who showed it to me asked to keep the "actual proof" private until THEY decide to unveil it themselves.

That's what it is. If you care to believe me or not is up to you. It makes no difference to me whether you or anyone else cares to believe me.

What's my involvement in all of this? Simple. Up to a year ago, I could have cared less about anything having to do with gh15, I would never even look into these threads. One day, a few members, that are present here now, approached me in order to help them resolve a few matters regarding their personal information and asked if I could maybe speak to their moderators and reach a resolution. They asked and I delivered. I spoke to the appropriate people on that site and all matters were resolved. Aside from that, I could care less about gh15 and simply find that his threats to random people are downright disgusting. If he were to simply leave it at talking about hormones, aliens, nuclear warheads, guantanamo and whatever else he wants to talk about, it would be fine. It just sucks when good people are put on the line of "fire" due to his crazy ideations.

Nonetheless, the way I see it, we have Valiant here as a welcomed guest. She has proven (multiple times now) that she can have her way with his forum at will, with nothing but a weak apology coming from gh15. We've also gotten back the key members that we actually cared about from that forum (Wes, Pellius, JNN, Dustin, Alphamaledawg) and even got a nice treat in the young gentleman named Ken (Wez).

There are but a handful of people that actually care about this on the forum. I have suggested that we completely erase this thread many times and a few others have wanted it to stick around, as to conglomerate all gh15 bullshit into one place (kind of like the massive anabolichalo thread used to dump all his shit in one place).

If you don't believe me, that's fine...
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[OneMoreRep]

He likes to tell the story about how he left GetBig and that this board never forgave him. That they so desperately wanted him to stay. That Ron offered him big money to post on this board. But the truth is, and everybody knows it except gh15, which is why I claim his mind is twisted and not fully rational (I don't just call names. I base it on evidence.), is that he was driven off this board. He was mercilessly attacked, his posts moved to the steroid sections where it was read by a far smaller audience. It drove him crazy. He kept threatening to leave this board and people here just laughed at him. Told him good riddance. Bub-bye. Now of course he didn't want to leave because he needs a platform to rant but he painted himself into a corner. He did that when he gave another one of his ultimatums. I told him not to leave because I knew he couldn't stay away but if he leaves for chrissakes don't come back. He'll look like a fool. Well, he had no choice. Because he kept threatening to leave and gave an ulimatum even he realized that there are some minimal standards, even for him, to maintain some modicum of credibility. So he left. BUT.......

This presumably grown up man who judging by the era he waxed on about, was in his mid forties, contacted g101 (Admin on his board and author of this very ponderous but epic thread) to contact all the gh15ers and have them post on the board about how much they miss gh15. That the board isn't the same anymore and they so desperate miss him. They were asked to write  and plead for him to return. Of course, even I have my limits. I wouldn't do it. This pissed off g101 and gh15. In fact, gh15 would throw it back in my face a year later when we were having one of our disputes. But I told him, again trying to protect his credibility, that he has to stand my his word. If he says he's going to leave then he has to leave and never come back. But by starting this phony campaign. By requiring his truly genuine and sincere supporters to lower and degrade themselves and force themselves to post on this board pining for their leader like abandon children that gave him the excuse and opening he needed.

Seriously man... What the fuck were people thinking when deciding to stay there and follow this guy?

I know that having access to "sources" is nice and all, but I am sure there are way more established sites on the internet for that.

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[wes]

Here`s a few thoughts from yours truly.

As pellius has mentioned,gh15 is a smart guy,and I personally believe that a lot of the stuff he said/says,are said to either piss people off,or to throw them off from guessing who he is.

Case in point,the time gh15 said he lives in a castle and owned several others.............me and Onetimehard jumped all over him when he said this.

Now c`mon,we didn`t beleive it for a second,but during that particular thread,he insisted on it being fact,just to piss us off because he knew it did just that to us.

We tried to call him out on it, and he was just sitting there laughing while he argued with us over it is what I think.

He likes this type of "stimulation" as he called it, and arguing/debating was "stimulation" to him,though,I again believe that he would have rather not had such "stimulation",and would be rather followed blindly like he is/was by the peeps that believed/believe in him,but that didn`t fly here, so he said he liked being challenged/"stimulated",but as you can see from looking at his board,that if you challenge him,you are done.

On being a pro bodybuilder......I never believed it for a NY millisecond.

He had to say something similar so as to account for his knowledge of gear,and to throw people off,and to make himself appear more mysterious,and it worked.

Do I personally think it`s Alex,Ed,or Block.......NO WAY,but as I said,it worked because people still care...I never cared who he was,though I`d like to know just for ha ha`s.

Luna clearance,government backing,assassination attempts,LE backing,working behind the scenes to legalizing hormones (how),paid elfs working undercover (aside from the mods he pays on his board)......all ridiculous stuff straight out of a Nick Fury Agent Of S.H.I.E.L.D. comic book.  

Dennis James ......gimme` a break,just a really stupid thought.

Can you imagine Dennis James living on a message board?

I can`t,sorry.
 

Nasser,maybe at first,I don`t know for sure,but certainly not for the last several years.

Wolf,again,just plain fucking stupid!  LOL  

He`s not German.....where in Hell did this thought come from anyfuckingway?

He`s not a pro.

He`s not Alex,Block,or Ed.

He`s damn sure not Dennis James.

Was he in on the Kigs scam ?...not in my opinion,I think he himself got scammed as well.

I`ve spoken to him a few times via PM and as I said,he was really cool with me,and much smarter and much more coherant than he sounds when typing in his own gibberish.

All just my opinion,but take into account,I am damn near smarter than most mere mortals.  

[Van_Bilderass]

If you don't believe me, that's fine...
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I just want people to stop making claims they can't back up. You say you have your proof, while others have theirs, which contradicts what you say. The fella is supposed to be in Florida according to the IT experts, but you on the other hand think Alex was still gh15 fairly recently.

Plus I want to know too, I'm curious. gh15 being the guys you mentioned just doesn't sound right to me (the language used with the Euro influences for example)... but hey, I always said I don't know who it is, if he's a pro or whatever else.

[Wez]

I told you before, the right to distribute that information is not mine.

The person who showed it to me asked to keep the "actual proof" private until THEY decide to unveil it themselves.

That's what it is. If you care to believe me or not is up to you. It makes no difference to me whether you or anyone else cares to believe me.

What's my involvement in all of this? Simple. Up to a year ago, I could have cared less about anything having to do with gh15, I would never even look into these threads. One day, a few members, that are present here now, approached me in order to help them resolve a few matters regarding their personal information and asked if I could maybe speak to their moderators and reach a resolution. They asked and I delivered. I spoke to the appropriate people on that site and all matters were resolved. Aside from that, I could care less about gh15 and simply find that his threats to random people are downright disgusting. If he were to simply leave it at talking about hormones, aliens, nuclear warheads, guantanamo and whatever else he wants to talk about, it would be fine. It just sucks when good people are put on the line of "fire" due to his crazy ideations.

Nonetheless, the way I see it, we have Valiant here as a welcomed guest. She has proven (multiple times now) that she can have her way with his forum at will, with nothing but a weak apology coming from gh15. We've also gotten back the key members that we actually cared about from that forum (Wes, Pellius, JNN, Dustin, Alphamaledawg) and even got a nice treat in the young gentleman named Ken (Wez).

There are but a handful of people that actually care about this on the forum. I have suggested that we completely erase this thread many times and a few others have wanted it to stick around, as to conglomerate all gh15 bullshit into one place (kind of like the massive anabolichalo thread used to dump all his shit in one place).

If you don't believe me, that's fine...
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Why thank you OMR no one has called me young in many years. Ken

[OneMoreRep]

I just want people to stop making claims they can't back up. You say you have your proof, while others have theirs, which contradicts what you say. The fella is supposed to be in Florida according to the IT experts, but you on the other hand think Alex was still gh15 fairly recently.

Plus I want to know too, I'm curious. gh15 being the guys you mentioned just doesn't sound right to me (the language used with the Euro influences for example)... but hey, I always said I don't know who it is, if he's a pro or whatever else.

No. I said that when the entity was here on the site, there were 4 individuals behind the actual account, based on what I saw.

What happened to the entity once he left this forum is another story all together. Whether or not the name was sold or given to someone else is unknown to me.

IT "experts" can claim all they want, but Ron never gave anyone gh15's IP address (Feel free to ask him yourself). If IT "experts" found out his exact location, it was from another medium and not GetBig.

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[OneMoreRep]

Why thank you OMR no one has called me young in many years. Ken

I know how it feels. A couple of more years and I hit the big 5-0.

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[wes]

I know how it feels. A couple of more years and I hit the big 5-0.

"1"

Quit your bitchin`,you guys are fucking mere pups!

How do you think I feel?   

[Wez]

I know how it feels. A couple of more years and I hit the big 5-0.

"1"

56 here my friend down in Jersey....almost as old as Wes but not quite. Fairly new to the hormone game. Trained natty for 33 years...only been dabbling in hormones for the last 3 years...which hopefully explains some of my obvious mistakes.

[a_pupil]

This thread is resembling an old peoples home right now

 

[wes]

This thread is resembling an old peoples home right now

 

LOL 

[wes]

....almost as old as Wes but not quite.

Go ahead,rub it in why don`tcha!   

[Wez]

Go ahead,rub it in why don`tcha!   

I will always be a little younger but you will always have better abs Brother. 

[wes]

I will always be a little younger but you will always have better abs Brother.  

That`s no consolation at all ! 

  

[Van_Bilderass]

No. I said that when the entity was here on the site, there were 4 individuals behind the actual account, based on what I saw.

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If it was one or all of those individuals for years on this forum then he/they are fucking geniuses. Especially if several of them wrote on the account. For many reasons, too many to go into here. It seems impossible to me to be honest.

I'm dying to know, I want to know for sure if I'm right or wrong here. FTR, I say it wasn't any one of those guys.

[El Diablo Blanco]

You guys would make the worst fucking detectives with your "I know it's not him but it could be him but I don't know who he his but it's not him or him or him"

[wes]

You guys would make the worst fucking detectives with your "I know it's not him but it could be him but I don't know who he his but it's not him or him or him"

Exactly,it`s gotten to the point of being ridiculous.

I still want to know just for general principle,but chances are it`s someone we never even heard of for all we know, or will ever know for that matter.

[pellius]

Seriously man... What the fuck were people thinking when deciding to stay there and follow this guy?

I know that having access to "sources" is nice and all, but I am sure there are way more established sites on the internet for that.

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I did believe that gh15 was being mistreated on this board and I was angry about it. After all those years posting on the G&O the mods started to move his posts to the steroid section so that few will read it. And they also started to merging all his post into one thread so that it became incomprehensible. It was obvious to me that the mods were trying to drive him off this board. And it worked. Despite what gh15 claims he was driven off this board. I thought it stunk and was wrong and unjust.

And when gh15 started to target you I made it abundantly clear that you had nothing to do with the gh15 side of the this board. gh15 just wasn't your thing and you didn't follow him at all and were far removed from all things gh15. You were dragged into but you had no bias one way or another another until all the evidence presented itself and you came to your own conclusions. I even told him you were Jewish which gave you a temporary reprieve. Now you are the worse human being in the world. Not Big A, not whore bboy, not -b- not IP. But you, OMR. gh15 even said that he would forgive -b- if he got him those legit kigs again.

So it's not about right or wrong. Loyalty or betrayal. Good and evil. It's about just him getting what he wants. You could rape a child but if you could get him legit kigs then all would be forgiven. If you could get him a compound that would give a grown man pushing fifty years old bigger, leaner, "blown up from within" muscles just so he could strut around in public (he doesn't compete) and delude himself into thinking everyone is admiring him.... then all would be forgiven.

That's the spiritual depth of this "god".  

And TheHeMan believes I am being cruel for implying gh15 has genuine mental issues.

[OneMoreRep]

Now you are the worse human being in the world. Not Big A, not whore bboy, not -b- not IP. But you, OMR. gh15 even said that he would forgive -b- if he got him those legit kigs again.

So it's not about right or wrong. Loyalty or betrayal. Good and evil. It's about just him getting what he wants. You could rape a child but if you could get him legit kigs then all would be forgiven. If you could get him a compound that would give a grown man pushing fifty years old bigger, leaner, "blown up from within" muscles just so he could strut around in public (he doesn't compete) and delude himself into thinking everyone is admiring him.... then all would be forgiving.

That's the spiritual depth of this "god".  

And TheHeMan believes I am being cruel for implying gh15 has genuine mental issues.

I don't know why the guy is so angry. He can simply log into GetBig and speak on this matter. He isn't banned or forbidden to post here.

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