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Re: GH15 - Who is he? Is he a pro? Why believe him?
« Reply #8875 on: June 24, 2015, 02:25:10 PM »
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Lol, that shirt looks like a barber's bib, it sort looks like they gave him a fresh haircut for his booking photo, and he's annoyed by it.


Shit, so it was Alex.

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« Reply #8876 on: June 24, 2015, 02:28:15 PM »
Craig was a suspect over two years ago. He did  not check out. Remember, an IP addy doesn't tell you who is sitting behind the computer.

Craig's age alone doesn't jive. One thing that has always been consistent with gh15, no matter how many incarnations you think there has been, is that he was at least in his late teens/early twenties during the 1980s. Very, very familiar with the Reagan era, music, sitcoms, movies... all things cultural and political during the 1980s. Craig would have only been about 8 years old in 1980. gh15 is a lot older than he let on. Actually, he never really tried to make himself seem younger. But by all accounts he's in his early fifties.

Also, never ever forget that another thing that has always been consistent with gh15 from the beginning no matter how many versions you think there has been is that he has always been a rabid supporter of the State of Israel and the Jewish people.

The identity of gh15 will always be a curiosity but his star has faded and continues to fade. Oh, he has his fans and follower  but they're more the young and gullible bbing.com crowd. Because of the way his board was run it's become more of a cult and the only ones with a brain in their head pretty much ignore him and just discuss issues of interest among themselves there because that's just where they happened to end up. The rest are just sheep that blindly follow whatever gh15 says.

He has, or had, a lot of really good people on that board. As one very prominent member once told me, "The gh15 board would be just perfect if we could just somehow get rid of gh15."

You appear to be describing me...

Oh shit...

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« Reply #8877 on: June 24, 2015, 02:28:53 PM »
Good looking guy
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« Reply #8878 on: June 24, 2015, 04:07:04 PM »
Craig was a suspect over two years ago. He did  not check out. Remember, an IP addy doesn't tell you who is sitting behind the computer.

Craig's age alone doesn't jive. One thing that has always been consistent with gh15, no matter how many incarnations you think there has been, is that he was at least in his late teens/early twenties during the 1980s. Very, very familiar with the Reagan era, music, sitcoms, movies... all things cultural and political during the 1980s. Craig would have only been about 8 years old in 1980. gh15 is a lot older than he let on. Actually, he never really tried to make himself seem younger. But by all accounts he's in his early fifties.

Also, never ever forget that another thing that has always been consistent with gh15 from the beginning no matter how many versions you think there has been is that he has always been a rabid supporter of the State of Israel and the Jewish people.

The identity of gh15 will always be a curiosity but his star has faded and continues to fade. Oh, he has his fans and follower  but they're more the young and gullible bbing.com crowd. Because of the way his board was run it's become more of a cult and the only ones with a brain in their head pretty much ignore him and just discuss issues of interest among themselves there because that's just where they happened to end up. The rest are just sheep that blindly follow whatever gh15 says.

He has, or had, a lot of really good people on that board. As one very prominent member once told me, "The gh15 board would be just perfect if we could just somehow get rid of gh15."

 

GH15 was just an internet forum figure, no more, no less.
The Gh15 of forum fame only existed in the virtual ether.

Make no mistake ,the GH15 character was interesting and entertaining.
Too many take this stuff way too serious and allow it to carry over into their real life.


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« Reply #8879 on: June 24, 2015, 06:15:42 PM »
GH15 was just an internet forum figure, no more, no less.
The Gh15 of forum fame only existed in the virtual ether.

Make no mistake ,the GH15 character was interesting and entertaining.
Too many take this stuff way too serious and allow it to carry over into their real life.



Not sure what you mean by "just a forum figure"? How is that different from you? We just know you from the forum.

The difference is that gh15 had a lot of influence on many. Many lost a lot of money on the kig scam. Kids are routinely using a gram + a week of tren ace because of gh15. There was a guy on his board that took out a loan so that he could buy pharm grade hgh. So many have the attitude now that if you are not juicing then it's not even worth going to the gym.

No internet personality has made such an impact on bbing via the forums than gh15. Not so much now. He's pretty much ignored or ridiculed by the main stream these days; but in his day, before he became so full of himself, he was a very compelling figure.

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« Reply #8880 on: June 24, 2015, 06:24:00 PM »
Yes.


I have the Getbig Centeral Unintelligence Network Team (C.U.N.T)  scrambling choppers to various locations to kick down doors demanding answers from various bottom tit snitches as we speak.

I have my top men on this case as well.

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« Reply #8881 on: June 24, 2015, 08:01:45 PM »
Not sure what you mean by "just a forum figure"? How is that different from you? We just know you from the forum.

The difference is that gh15 had a lot of influence on many. Many lost a lot of money on the kig scam. Kids are routinely using a gram + a week of tren ace because of gh15. There was a guy on his board that took out a loan so that he could buy pharm grade hgh. So many have the attitude now that if you are not juicing then it's not even worth going to the gym.

No internet personality has made such an impact on bbing via the forums than gh15. Not so much now. He's pretty much ignored or ridiculed by the main stream these days; but in his day, before he became so full of himself, he was a very compelling figure.

1.The biggest difference is I post under my actual name and you know who and what I really am.


EVERYONE knows I'm  a goofy blowhard douchebag and don't pretend I'm some big shot LOL

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« Reply #8882 on: June 24, 2015, 08:13:31 PM »
I have my top men on this case as well.

Having men on top  is always good for most getbiggers

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« Reply #8883 on: June 24, 2015, 10:07:33 PM »
Recent polls suggest no one gives a fuck.

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« Reply #8884 on: June 24, 2015, 10:37:25 PM »
1.The biggest difference is I post under my actual name and you know who and what I really am.


EVERYONE knows I'm  a goofy blowhard douchebag and don't pretend I'm some big shot LOL

Again, I'm not exactly clear what your point is. The "biggest difference" is that you post under your own name. So what?

As far as pretending to be a big shot just google your name (along with GetBig) and google gh15. Like him or not gh15 has had a tremendous influence on modern bbers. Poseurs such as Bostin Llyod and the various "undercover pros" would not exist and talk the way they do and be as open and honest as they are if it wasn't for gh15. Some claim that he said nothing new but no one was talking about how much lying goes on in bbing and the role of hormones/peptides to advance once you reach a certain level. Not everyone knew or believed that once you reach a certain level then it is "all drugs" and your response to them that will determine how far you will advance. No amount or breakthroughs in training and/or nutrition will matter. It's really boils down to how much phama gh you can afford since anabolics are already a given and slin is cheap.

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« Reply #8885 on: June 24, 2015, 10:37:52 PM »
Good looking guy
Need to see the fingernails.

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« Reply #8886 on: June 25, 2015, 03:58:18 AM »
Gh15=lee priest.

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« Reply #8887 on: June 25, 2015, 06:51:19 AM »
Again, I'm not exactly clear what your point is. The "biggest difference" is that you post under your own name. So what?

As far as pretending to be a big shot just google your name (along with GetBig) and google gh15. Like him or not gh15 has had a tremendous influence on modern bbers. Poseurs such as Bostin Llyod and the various "undercover pros" would not exist and talk the way they do and be as open and honest as they are if it wasn't for gh15. Some claim that he said nothing new but no one was talking about how much lying goes on in bbing and the role of hormones/peptides to advance once you reach a certain level. Not everyone knew or believed that once you reach a certain level then it is "all drugs" and your response to them that will determine how far you will advance. No amount or breakthroughs in training and/or nutrition will matter. It's really boils down to how much phama gh you can afford since anabolics are already a given and slin is cheap.

1. You know who I am and  , what I look like ( posted video, pics, etc). Like most people on forums ,GH15 remained hidden behind the cpu and never revealed his identity. BIG difference.
A handful of others are known, like Goodrum, Basille, etc but the vast majority remain hidden like GH15.
I'm not taking sides on this issue, but merely pointing out posting as yourself is very different from being anonymous.

2. Did he really make a difference in the world of hardcore BB ?
 Being anonymous doesn't reduce one's ability to expose things and make a difference. The famous operative nicknamed " Deep Throat" broke the Watergate scandal (with Woodward and Berstien ) that forced Pres. Nixon out of office.

In my humble opinion, I don't think GH15 made a major difference in the world of bodybuilding. The same guys using drugs before GH15, were using them after. Obviously some of his brainwashed nut huggers tried using larger amounts due to his rants. A few paid him for consultations and the purchase of his kiggs kits.

GH15 didn't put a dent in the world of pro or amateur bodybuilding. The top guys remained the same and the sport went on without any epic change sparked by GH15.

3. No question about GH15 being a BB forum celebrity. Many sang his praises and declared him the true sage of all bodybuilding and muscle growth wisdom. I always said he was an entertaining guy , that was mostly full of shit.

Now take a good look at who GH15 most likely was/is.
What is the  correct actual profile of GH15:
1. GH15 was a top pro BB ,  an expert on BB drug use and applied medical science as it relates to BB.

2. GH15 was a regular guy with a little drug knowledge, charismatic posting style and  a good line bullshit.

* I'll take #2 for the truth  ;)

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« Reply #8888 on: June 25, 2015, 06:53:42 AM »
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Lol, that shirt looks like a barber's bib, it sort looks like they gave him a fresh haircut for his booking photo, and he's annoyed by it.


So that's the dork who banned me for no reason? LOLLLLLLL

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« Reply #8889 on: June 25, 2015, 07:44:15 AM »
1. You know who I am and  , what I look like ( posted video, pics, etc). Like most people on forums ,GH15 remained hidden behind the cpu and never revealed his identity. BIG difference.
A handful of others are known, like Goodrum, Basille, etc but the vast majority remain hidden like GH15.
I'm not taking sides on this issue, but merely pointing out posting as yourself is very different from being anonymous.

2. Did he really make a difference in the world of hardcore BB ?
 Being anonymous doesn't reduce one's ability to expose things and make a difference. The famous operative nicknamed " Deep Throat" broke the Watergate scandal (with Woodward and Berstien ) that forced Pres. Nixon out of office.

In my humble opinion, I don't think GH15 made a major difference in the world of bodybuilding. The same guys using drugs before GH15, were using them after. Obviously some of his brainwashed nut huggers tried using larger amounts due to his rants. A few paid him for consultations and the purchase of his kiggs kits.

GH15 didn't put a dent in the world of pro or amateur bodybuilding. The top guys remained the same and the sport went on without and change sparked by GH15.

3. No question about GH15 being a BB forum celebrity. Many sang his praises and declared him the true sage of all bodybuilding and muscle growth wisdom. I always said he was an entertaining guy , that was mostly full of shit.

Now take a good look at who GH15 most likely was/is.
What is the more correct actual profile of GH15:
1. GH15 was a top pro BB ,  an expert on BB drug use and applied medical science as it relates to BB.

2. GH15 was a regular guy with a little drug knowledge, charismatic posting style and  a good line bullshit.

* I'll take #2 for the truth  ;)














That a Good Post Howard.
Yes there is a Big Difference between us who post under a pseudonym
( for whatever reason) and those of you who post under your Real Names.
Any one of us who post annonamously and says different is a Fool.

As to who the Gh15 character is, 2 seems more plausible though at times
I feel there was some connection or input from a pro / top level amateur.
Could be stuff that was picked out of articles or interviews.
Possibly more than just one person behind the name.

I don't see gh15 as making a change / impact on bodybuilding.
He most likely influenced those that would of been influenced by the
Local meathead / steroid dealer any way into buying / taking more gear.

It would be good to know who he is / are.  Just to Stop all this Speculation.

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« Reply #8890 on: June 25, 2015, 07:47:03 AM »


Thanks and there is a good chance it's this dude in the pic from FLA.
No matter as GH15 will always live on as a forum legend in the crazy virtual world of modern BB.










That a Good Post Howard.
Yes there is a Big Difference between us who post under a pseudonym
( for whatever reason) and those of you who post under your Real Names.
Any one of us who post annonamously and says different is a Fool.

As to who the Gh15 character is, 2 seems more plausible though at times
I feel there was some connection or input from a pro / top level amateur.
Could be stuff that was picked out of articles or interviews.
Possibly more than just one person behind the name.

I don't see gh15 as making a change / impact on bodybuilding.
He most likely influenced those that would of been influenced by the
Local meathead / steroid dealer any way into buying / taking more gear.

It would be good to know who he is / are.  Just to Stop all this Speculation.

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« Reply #8891 on: June 25, 2015, 11:00:35 AM »
bottom line is only idiots and fuck wits

jumped ship from here to become jedi elves

people with an iq above five called him a scammer from day one

they pushed the agenda from day one that he was Nasser

soon as Nasser died he should have stopped posting

but he was too fucking dumb

doesn't matter who he is he is a nothing a nobody a cock smoking twink etc
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« Reply #8892 on: June 25, 2015, 11:25:40 AM »
bottom line is only idiots and fuck wits

jumped ship from here to become jedi elves

people with an iq above five called him a scammer from day one

they pushed the agenda from day one that he was Nasser

soon as Nasser died he should have stopped posting

but he was too fucking dumb

doesn't matter who he is he is a nothing a nobody a cock smoking twink etc

Legit Kigs bro, the stamped ones.


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« Reply #8893 on: June 25, 2015, 11:42:23 AM »
Has it ever been speculated that GH15 is Milos Sarcev?  Watching interviews with him, seems like a candidate.  I wasn't around during the GH15 times though.

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« Reply #8894 on: June 25, 2015, 11:43:44 AM »
Has it ever been speculated that GH15 is Milos Sarcev?  Watching interviews with him, seems like a candidate.  I wasn't around during the GH15 times though.

Nah. Milos is big slin advocate. Gh15 hated slin and what its done to bb.

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« Reply #8895 on: June 25, 2015, 11:52:57 AM »
So, that's it? The gh15 saga is over?

Oh well, next.....   ::)

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« Reply #8896 on: June 25, 2015, 01:30:31 PM »
So, that's it? The gh15 saga is over?

Oh well, next.....   ::)

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« Reply #8897 on: June 25, 2015, 01:35:57 PM »
MY GUESS?

gunter

ruhl

dennis james

lee preist

milos

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« Reply #8898 on: June 25, 2015, 01:39:29 PM »
MY GUESS?

gunter

ruhl

dennis james

lee preist

milos

We have the url,  so, unless these pros flew to BUMFUK , Florida and posted from his cpu, it's not likely.
Even after posting his URL, the true believers refuse to accept the basic truth.

Now, I know how religions gain traction with the masses.

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« Reply #8899 on: June 25, 2015, 07:57:56 PM »
1. You know who I am and  , what I look like ( posted video, pics, etc). Like most people on forums ,GH15 remained hidden behind the cpu and never revealed his identity. BIG difference.
A handful of others are known, like Goodrum, Basille, etc but the vast majority remain hidden like GH15.
I'm not taking sides on this issue, but merely pointing out posting as yourself is very different from being anonymous.

2. Did he really make a difference in the world of hardcore BB ?
 Being anonymous doesn't reduce one's ability to expose things and make a difference. The famous operative nicknamed " Deep Throat" broke the Watergate scandal (with Woodward and Berstien ) that forced Pres. Nixon out of office.

In my humble opinion, I don't think GH15 made a major difference in the world of bodybuilding. The same guys using drugs before GH15, were using them after. Obviously some of his brainwashed nut huggers tried using larger amounts due to his rants. A few paid him for consultations and the purchase of his kiggs kits.

GH15 didn't put a dent in the world of pro or amateur bodybuilding. The top guys remained the same and the sport went on without any epic change sparked by GH15.

3. No question about GH15 being a BB forum celebrity. Many sang his praises and declared him the true sage of all bodybuilding and muscle growth wisdom. I always said he was an entertaining guy , that was mostly full of shit.

Now take a good look at who GH15 most likely was/is.
What is the  correct actual profile of GH15:
1. GH15 was a top pro BB ,  an expert on BB drug use and applied medical science as it relates to BB.

2. GH15 was a regular guy with a little drug knowledge, charismatic posting style and  a good line bullshit.

* I'll take #2 for the truth  ;)

Howard, you surprise me. Despite your goofing around here I've always had you pegged as a reasonable, rational person without any agenda. More interested in clarity and the truth and not advancing any prejudice or bias you have Yet you just perpetuated the lie that gh15 sold kigtropins. You were here Howard when this episode took place. Kigtropins were sold by two suppliers: "The Dictator" from the AB board and "Kamakaze/Kublai" from the Promuscle board.

The lie that gh15 sold kigs were more concerned with besmirching his name than seeking the truth. gh15 bought kigs and got scammed like everyone else. He even admitted that he was played as a fool. An admission that you can imagine was not easy for him.

I'll debate you on any subject and do my best to be open and honest and if caught in a contradiction I will freely admit it and change my view. But you have to be honest as well and not just make up stuff or parrot what others say without proof or evidence.