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Obama calls for troop withdrawal in 6 months...
« on: November 20, 2006, 05:44:48 PM »
Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, called this afternoon for troop withdrawal from Iraq starting next year and negotiations with Iran and Syria over the war-torn country's future.

In a speech sure to draw political fire, the Democrat told attendees of a Chicago Council on Global Affairs event downtown that withdrawal should begin in the next four to six months and that those soldiers should be moved to Afghanistan to focus on terrorist groups again gaining strength in that country.

Obama, who is considering a run for president in 2008, also advocated negotiating Iraq's future with neighboring Iran and Syria, an option President George Bush has rejected as he blames both countries for meddling in the U.S. effort to install a democratic government.

"We know these countries want us to fail and we should remain steadfast in our opposition to their support of terrorism and Iran's nuclear ambitions," Obama said. "But neither Iran nor Syria want to see a security vacuum in Iraq filled with chaos, terrorism, refugees and violence as it could have a destabilizing effect on the entire region and within Iran and Syria themselves "


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Re: Obama calls for troop withdrawal in 6 months...
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2006, 07:15:40 PM »
Iran is hosting a conference on the Iraqi future with the Iraqi and Syrian presidents as we type.  It would be a huge slap in the face if they could come up with a plan.

The latest Pentagon study is "go big, go long, or go home."  My money is we are going to see a phased withdrawal over 1-2 years.  Obama's plan is essentially correct but his timeline is too optimistic.

Anybody see the study that Iraq operations could cost $1trillion by 2010?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/20/us.iraq.ap/index.html
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Re: Obama calls for troop withdrawal in 6 months...
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2006, 07:17:48 PM »
We're not leaving.  The powers-that-be want the US to procure those oil resources from those 3 nations.  The reason we gave osama $, guns, and intel in the 80s - to keep the ruskies out- was so that we could take the caspian oil 20 years later when we had the technology.

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Re: Obama calls for troop withdrawal in 6 months...
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2006, 07:22:08 PM »
Since when did Syria
1. have oil
2. Border the Caspian sea.

Since when Iraq boarder the Caspian Sea

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/Caspian/Background.html
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Re: Obama calls for troop withdrawal in 6 months...
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2006, 07:39:25 PM »
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Re: Obama calls for troop withdrawal in 6 months...
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2006, 07:46:29 PM »
So Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria aren't near the Caspian Sea.

Read the link I posted.
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Re: Obama calls for troop withdrawal in 6 months...
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2006, 07:50:57 PM »
we both know turkmen and ubeck are asterisks on the Bushco Novel.

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Re: Obama calls for troop withdrawal in 6 months...
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2006, 07:52:03 PM »
240-- Your map looks a lot like the Iranian infrastructure used to send lend-lease (and oil) supplies to the Soviets during World War II.

I'm a WWII buff and would recommend a book by TH Vail Motter for you.  It is titled "The Persian Corridor and Aid to Russia" and was commissioned by the US Army in the early 1950s (as a WWII history not part of a conspiracy to control the area's oil in 55 years ;D ;D)
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Re: Obama calls for troop withdrawal in 6 months...
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2006, 07:57:25 PM »
Everyone knew those 3 nations would be targeted by Bush to get the trifecta.

i'll add that to my library list, thanks!

It is incredible that in this modern age of technology, communication, treaties and civilities, you can still attack yourself, blame 3 countries, kill a generation of men, and take all their shit, then leave.

I mean, wow...

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Re: Obama calls for troop withdrawal in 6 months...
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2006, 08:30:10 PM »
Thought you would like the book for it's historical perspective.  It discusses how Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan (all nominally British protectorates) were used by the Allies during WWII.
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