Idea/Thoughts on program,

[upononewheel]

Hey guys, bit of background. 33yr old. 5'11" 193lbs, @12-12.5%b/f NOT trying to show or anything. I did this cycle below about almost 2 years ago and liked it, but thought i'd ask before hitting it once again and see your guys thoughts. I would like to just be @205-210 and 8% b/f. I already know my diet and workouts, just thought id have some others review my plan...offer ideas/thoughts. thanks much

12 weeks program

week 1-5
 2-ml of Sustanon  every 4days

week 6-10
 1-ml of Tren  + 1ml Primobolan every other day (mix them together)
 50mgs of Winni every day. Split it up to 4 dosages

week 10-12
 1-ml of Tren every other day
 50mgs of Winni every day


week 3-12
- T3:  Pyrmid the dosage from 50mcg/day up to 150mcg/day then down to
50mg/day (used to help me lean up).

-Clomid start week 10 until week 20 at 300mgs/day
- Armidex 1/2 mg EOD for 12 weeks

[upononewheel]

btw: i know not cheap, not looking for that. ALso only my first post, but have read forum almost every day for over a year now. thanks

[Rimbaud]

Why are you stopping the sust after week 5? You should run it for all twelve weeks of your cycle. It also looks like your PCT is way too long & your doseage of Clomid is too high (I could understand starting at 150mg & tapering down but with 300 you're asking for too many sides). I personally would drop the clomid & use nolva instead. Here's my changes to your cycle:

Weeks 1-12 2ml of Sust EW (500mg)
Weeks 1-12 2ml of Primo EW
Weeks 1-12 1mg Adex EOD
Weeks 6-12 1 ml of Tren EOD
Weeks 6-12 50-100mg of Winny
PCT:
Weeks 14-16 Nolvadex (taper from 40mg ED to 20mg ED)
Feel free to add the T3 as you see fit.

I'd personally drop the Primo but that's just me.

[Luv2Hurt]

Hey guys, bit of background. 33yr old. 5'11" 193lbs, @12-12.5%b/f NOT trying to show or anything. I did this cycle below about almost 2 years ago and liked it, but thought i'd ask before hitting it once again and see your guys thoughts. I would like to just be @205-210 and 8% b/f. I already know my diet and workouts, just thought id have some others review my plan...offer ideas/thoughts. thanks much

12 weeks program

week 1-5
 2-ml of Sustanon  every 4days

week 6-10
 1-ml of Tren  + 1ml Primobolan every other day (mix them together)
 50mgs of Winni every day. Split it up to 4 dosages

week 10-12
 1-ml of Tren every other day
 50mgs of Winni every day


week 3-12
- T3:  Pyrmid the dosage from 50mcg/day up to 150mcg/day then down to
50mg/day (used to help me lean up).

-Clomid start week 10 until week 20 at 300mgs/day
- Armidex 1/2 mg EOD for 12 weeks

Yes PLEASE take Rim's advice cause the cycle you laid out is absolutely terrible!  And I would even say dangerous.

[Arnold jr]

Why are you stopping the sust after week 5? You should run it for all twelve weeks of your cycle. It also looks like your PCT is way too long & your doseage of Clomid is too high (I could understand starting at 150mg & tapering down but with 300 you're asking for too many sides). I personally would drop the clomid & use nolva instead. Here's my changes to your cycle:

Weeks 1-12 2ml of Sust EW (500mg)
Weeks 1-12 2ml of Primo EW
Weeks 1-12 1mg Adex EOD
Weeks 6-12 1 ml of Tren EOD
Weeks 6-12 50-100mg of Winny
PCT:
Weeks 14-16 Nolvadex (taper from 40mg ED to 20mg ED)
Feel free to add the T3 as you see fit.

I'd personally drop the Primo but that's just me.

Agreed. This^ is proper, what you laid out "upononewheel" is not...not even close.

On another note, something I've noticed here and in other post, is guys who run cycles once in a blue moon, I do not agree with this approach....you know a 12wk cycle or so once every couple years. I don't advocate staying on permanently, but if you're going to cycle, then cycle properly...run a cycle, stay off for a "reasonable" amount of time, and cycle back on...these 2-3 year breaks do not make sense to me...not if you're looking to make real progress. I understand that shit happens, and in some cases money or some other factor can or may throw a wrench in things. But if not, either join the "Dark Side" or not...no fence riding IMO.

[upononewheel]

Thanks guys, thats why i posted up. This is from a buddy that i actually did pretty close to it and saw great results. As for timing, i agree..but with my job i was unable to do "quickly" enough after last one. Ill take all your input seriously and really appriciate the insight and suggestions. Much appriciated! Grazie'

[freakfestMD]

Why are you stopping the sust after week 5? You should run it for all twelve weeks of your cycle. It also looks like your PCT is way too long & your doseage of Clomid is too high (I could understand starting at 150mg & tapering down but with 300 you're asking for too many sides). I personally would drop the clomid & use nolva instead. Here's my changes to your cycle:

Weeks 1-12 2ml of Sust EW (500mg)
Weeks 1-12 2ml of Primo EW
Weeks 1-12 1mg Adex EOD
Weeks 6-12 1 ml of Tren EOD
Weeks 6-12 50-100mg of Winny
PCT:
Weeks 14-16 Nolvadex (taper from 40mg ED to 20mg ED)
Feel free to add the T3 as you see fit.

I'd personally drop the Primo but that's just me.

I concur with Rimbaud.

[DIVISION]

Hey guys, bit of background. 33yr old. 5'11" 193lbs, @12-12.5%b/f NOT trying to show or anything. I did this cycle below about almost 2 years ago and liked it, but thought i'd ask before hitting it once again and see your guys thoughts. I would like to just be @205-210 and 8% b/f. I already know my diet and workouts, just thought id have some others review my plan...offer ideas/thoughts. thanks much

12 weeks program

week 1-5
 2-ml of Sustanon  every 4days

week 6-10
 1-ml of Tren  + 1ml Primobolan every other day (mix them together)
 50mgs of Winni every day. Split it up to 4 dosages

week 10-12
 1-ml of Tren every other day
 50mgs of Winni every day


week 3-12
- T3:  Pyrmid the dosage from 50mcg/day up to 150mcg/day then down to
50mg/day (used to help me lean up).

-Clomid start week 10 until week 20 at 300mgs/day
- Armidex 1/2 mg EOD for 12 weeks

How about this?

You explain to me exactly why you want to run these drugs for the durations and dosages you've chosen and I'll tell you what I think.

If you can't come up with a clear, rational explanation, why should I waste my time?

.....one last thing, when asking for a critique of your cycle, telling us "1ml" doesn't mean shit.  What is the MG amount?  That is what is important. 


DIV