The Dorian vs Ronnie wars

[Mussolini]

  What's up with all of these Dorian vs Ronnie wars here? There isn't a single week that a thread on this topic isn't started at this board. Hell, last month or so, there were not one, not two, not even three, but four threads on this topic going on simulataneously. What the f**k is this non-stop obsession with this? Also, there isn't a single thread where Dorian or Ronnie are mentioned without the other being brought up for comparison. Wtf?! What's up with all of these assholes arguing this shit ad infinitum? I side with Dorian, and it has nothing do do with the fact that Suckmymuscle and NarcissisticDeity are clearly more intelligent than the Coleman side, but simply because I prefer Dorian's grain and tight appearance. At the end of the day, it's just an opinion. Who cares? At their respective bests, neither Dorian nor Ronnie had any serious height, weight, or muscularity advantage over the other, so the outcome of this hypothetical contest would be a matter of preference, with the judges giving their nod based on their prefered structure, type of muscularity and how they look at the end of the day. Let it go. Geez!

[pobrecito]

Dorian is clearly superior.

[TheAnimal]

Dorian > Ronnie

[TrapsMcLats]

you've only got 601 pages to go!!!

[The Squadfather]

Dorian is clearly superior.

i agree.

[MisterMagoo]

  What's up with all of these Dorian vs Ronnie wars here? There isn't a single week that a thread on this topic isn't started at this board.

way to contribute to the problem, genius.

[delta9mda]

yeah you just started another one. keep it in the truce thread!!!!!!!

[Tigerman]

way to contribute to the problem, genius.

What can you expect from a guy who praises fascism?

[tweeter]

The problem is you can't just compare Dorian vs. Ronnie. You have to be more specific...say Ronnie 01 ASC vs. Dorian 93 O. Its hard to compare two bodybuilders throughout their career because their physiques change so much from contest to contest.

[GoneAway]

The problem is you can't just compare Dorian vs. Ronnie. You have to be more specific...say Ronnie 01 ASC vs. Dorian 93 O. Its hard to compare two bodybuilders throughout their career because their physiques change so much from contest to contest.

Exactly. It's a never ending battle. There's just too much to compare.

[figgs]

Find a Dorian pic to match these.

[Sergio Rules 77]

Find a Dorian pic to match these.

These are none too shabby . I think he measures up quite well.












SERGIO!!!!!

[Cavalier22]

how many times can people repost the same pictures. people have their own opinions and aren't gonna change after viewing the same picture for the 33rd time

[Sergio Rules 77]

how many times can people repost the same pictures. people have their own opinions and aren't gonna change after viewing the same picture for the 33rd time

I agree, but maybe the 34th time will be the charm.

SERGIO!!!!

[suckmymuscle]

  What's up with all of these Dorian vs Ronnie wars here? There isn't a single week that a thread on this topic isn't started at this board. Hell, last month or so, there were not one, not two, not even three, but four threads on this topic going on simulataneously. What the f**k is this non-stop obsession with this? Also, there isn't a single thread where Dorian or Ronnie are mentioned without the other being brought up for comparison. Wtf?! What's up with all of these assholes arguing this shit ad infinitum? I side with Dorian, and it has nothing do do with the fact that Suckmymuscle and NarcissisticDeity are clearly more intelligent than the Coleman side, but simply because I prefer Dorian's grain and tight appearance. At the end of the day, it's just an opinion. Who cares? At their respective bests, neither Dorian nor Ronnie had any serious height, weight, or muscularity advantage over the other, so the outcome of this hypothetical contest would be a matter of preference, with the judges giving their nod based on their prefered structure, type of muscularity and how they look at the end of the day. Let it go. Geez!

  Great point. It all comes down to people believing that, because Dorian lacked narrow hips and round  muscles, that this somehow makes him an inferior bodybuilder. The criticisms of the Coleman side all coems down to structure, really: they just don't like Dorian's shape. However, what they ignore is that there isn't any particular shape that judges demand. Bodybuilders with structures as differfent as Nasser's and Wheeler's have gotten the nod from the judges, so who knows. The bottom line is that Dorian was muscular&symmetrical enough from most angles while contracting different muscles to be Mr.Olympia. What the Ronnie fans don't understand is that, for his structure, Dorian was superb. The epitome.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Sean-DeMarco]

The problem is you can't just compare Dorian vs. Ronnie. You have to be more specific...say Ronnie 01 ASC vs. Dorian 93 O. Its hard to compare two bodybuilders throughout their career because their physiques change so much from contest to contest.

...the most intelligent post on this thread thus far. Props.~

[suckmymuscle]

Find a Dorian pic to match these.

  Please...these pics have been posted one gazillion times before. Ronnie looks flat and bloated there.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pumpster]

Quote from: tweeter on November 26, 2006, 08:14:48 PM
The problem is you can't just compare Dorian vs. Ronnie. You have to be more specific...say Ronnie 01 ASC vs. Dorian 93 O. Its hard to compare two bodybuilders throughout their career because their physiques change so much from contest to contest.

...the most intelligent post on this thread thus far. Props.~

Well..maybe not. It was agreed a long time ago to compare them at their best, and a concensus formed as to which year to use.

These are none too shabby . I think he measures up quite well.

That first Yates back shot is morphed.

[Theoak*]

Ronnie owns dorain 6 way from sunday.

[SLYY]

I'll add to the many pages this thread will generate...

Dorian

[Sergio Rules 77]

That first Yates back shot is morphed.

Don't, your destroying my perfect vision of Dorian . I prefer to live deluded and say it hasn't been touched .




Damn, that is very impressive. Almost as impresive as Dorian's morphed.......I mean, Dorian's incredible unaltered back shot.

SERGIO!!!!!

[The_Hammer]

LIGHTS OUTS

[JasonH]

I would say that Ronnie's best condition ever (2004) probably beats Dorian's best condition ever (1993). However, Dorain was far more consistent than Ronnie as Ronnie has been known to come in out of shape and still win. Dorian was never really out of shape - even in '94 with the torn bicep he was still better than everyone onstage, but Shawn came close to beating him. It's a tough call but I think Dorian shades the decision.

[suckmymuscle]

I would say that Ronnie's best condition ever (2004) probably beats Dorian's best condition ever (1993). However, Dorain was far more consistent than Ronnie as Ronnie has been known to come in out of shape and still win. Dorian was never really out of shape - even in '94 with the torn bicep he was still better than everyone onstage, but Shawn came close to beating him. It's a tough call but I think Dorian shades the decision.

  Ronnie's "best" condition ever was 2004?! Dude, his gut was the wors of any bodybuilder ever, his quads had barely a cut on them and overpowered his upper body, his glutes looked like those of a woman and he looked like a water-buffalo, being so soft and retaining so much water under his skin. 2004 was his worst performance ever. It was even worse than 2003, because at least that year Ronnie still had some separations despite tho monster gut.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[IceCold]

  What's up with all of these Dorian vs Ronnie wars here? There isn't a single week that a thread on this topic isn't started at this board. Hell, last month or so, there were not one, not two, not even three, but four threads on this topic going on simulataneously. What the f**k is this non-stop obsession with this? Also, there isn't a single thread where Dorian or Ronnie are mentioned without the other being brought up for comparison. Wtf?! What's up with all of these assholes arguing this shit ad infinitum? I side with Dorian, and it has nothing do do with the fact that Suckmymuscle and NarcissisticDeity are clearly more intelligent than the Coleman side, but simply because I prefer Dorian's grain and tight appearance. At the end of the day, it's just an opinion. Who cares? At their respective bests, neither Dorian nor Ronnie had any serious height, weight, or muscularity advantage over the other, so the outcome of this hypothetical contest would be a matter of preference, with the judges giving their nod based on their prefered structure, type of muscularity and how they look at the end of the day. Let it go. Geez!

excellent post and great summary.

my involvment in the thread is more of what hulkster and pumpster said about yates being overrated and a 'tier b olympian'.

its one thing to say that ronnie would win, but another to blatantly talk shit about dorian while ignoring facts.