I'm on Steroids

[Overload]

It hurts to trust others because it can always come back to bite you in the end.


DIV

I agree 100%...

that is why i only have about 3 friends whom i trust to a certian extent...

[Rimbaud]

I agree 100%...

that is why i only have about 3 friends whom i trust to a certian extent...

Just do what I do: Trust everyone but only so far. Certain people only need to know certain things or a certain ammount of information.

[DIVISION]

I agree 100%...

that is why i only have about 3 friends whom i trust to a certian extent...

You're smart.

I have no true friends, only acquaintances.

Just do what I do: Trust everyone but only so far. Certain people only need to know certain things or a certain ammount of information.

Even baby ewoks trusted Princess Leia.

I'm just not sure you're strong enough to avoid the temptation of a woman, Rimbauder.




DIV

[udeluz]

You're smart.

I have no true friends, only acquaintances.






DIV

No offense but.
It does not surprise me, You seem like kind a "Loner"

[DIVISION]

No offense but.
It does not surprise me, You seem like kind a "Loner"

No offense taken.

It takes a certain type of person to understand my ways, plus I'm very selective of who I trust.

It's better that way, trust me.



DIV

[udeluz]

No, I do hear and understand you, I have been major screwed by "best friends" but I'm not going to go in detail.

Lets just say, If I saw my best friend from High School, who was also my best man at my wedding, I'd probally be locked up for manslaughter.


Enough Said 

[APE907]

I won't disagree with the fact that there are a bazillion of these types (idiots) around, and they very well may make up the majority of users (probably do). That said, I still believe that there are more of the other types of users out there then is let on. It's simply the fact that the "legitimate" "responsable" user does not go around making a public issue out of the matter, he doesn't act like an ass, he doesn't want to tell the world or otherwise he's thrown in the same pile as the bitch user.

Example conversations:

Q: Observer: so do you use steroids?
A: Ass-bag: f**k yeah I use them...I'm bigger then ever and I'm about to rage all over someones ass!
Q: Observer: So what do you take?
A: Ass-bag: dbol and some other stuff, not real sure what it's called. My boy gets it for me and all I know is it works.
Q: Observer: Do you cycle on and off?
A: Ass-bag: yeah man I cycle...uh, I mean, I think I do...what is cycling?

Conversation 2:

Q: Observer: so do you use steroids?
A: Real user: No.
Q: Observer: come on man I know you do, you can't look like that and not.
A: Real User: I said no.
Q: Observer: so you don't take anything?
A: Real user: just a multi-vit and some protein powder...other then that simply food...that's all you need.

This is so completely accurate - unfortunately it is the loud mouth "ass bags" who get the most attention because they think it is a badge of honor or something to brag about their cycles to anyone who will listen. 

Personally I take a different strategy so as to minimize the chance of ever being asked these questions (especially at the gym I belong to which is filled with jealous haters and over-zealous "naturals").  I make sure that from the moment I walk into the gym I have my MP3 player on w/headphones inserted and metal cranked, I also avoid eye-contact and "chit-chat" of any kind.  I am probably perceived as an a**hole but so be it - I get work-outs completed efficiently and discourage "supplement" questions of any kind.

The gym is simply not a "social outlet" for me out of necessity.  My goal is to get-in and get-out as efficiently as possible.

[DIVISION]

No, I do hear and understand you, I have been major screwed by "best friends" but I'm not going to go in detail.

Lets just say, If I saw my best friend from High School, who was also my best man at my wedding, I'd probally be locked up for manslaughter.


Enough Said 

So you've been assraped by some of your closest friends over the years?

Please, let's have some details.

Was it that your best man at your wedding was pounding your wife to be on the side without your knowledge?



DIV

[udeluz]

Mostly money issues,

I loaned him 30,000.00 for his down payment on his house, in which he never made a payment, the bank forclosed and as far as I know he moved to somewhere in Canada.


I lost another "friend of 10 years over 1,200.00 it wasn't a big deal but he continued to lie about about having the money and avoiding me. All he had to do was be honest and I would have understood 100%, I know shit happens and things come up.

[Arnold jr]

Mostly money issues,

I loaned him 30,000.00 for his down payment on his house, in which he never made a payment, the bank forclosed and as far as I know he moved to somewhere in Canada.


I lost another "friend of 10 years over 1,200.00 it wasn't a big deal but he continued to lie about about having the money and avoiding me. All he had to do was be honest and I would have understood 100%, I know shit happens and things come up.

Money can break friendships, no doubt...I've been down that road myself, although not to the extreme of helping to buy a house.

[Rimbaud]

Lets just say, If I saw my best friend from High School, who was also my best man at my wedding, I'd probally be locked up for manslaughter.

I don't think it'd be manslaughter if they read this thread...maybe you could get the DA down to 2nd Degree murder. Don't worry, I'll sneak you in cigarettes & porn...so you'll be rich.  

[Rimbaud]

Money can break friendships, no doubt...I've been down that road myself, although not to the extreme of helping to buy a house.

I couldn't agree more. It came between me & my old best friend. It was only $1000 but I was a poor college kid back then so it might as well have been one million.

[Arnold jr]

I couldn't agree more. It came between me & my old best friend. It was only $1000 but I was a poor college kid back then so it might as well have been one million.

Same with me. I was 18 and I loaned a $1000 to an old friend to help him buy a truck. He did eventually pay me back...over a year later, and that would have been fine but it was the fact that he did not hold to our original agreement that pissed me off...and there was absolutely no reason for him not to stick to the agreement. He was supposed to pay me $100/wk until it was paid, he had a job and lived at home with his dad, so there was no reason that he couldn't pay me back on time...except that he kept blowing all his money drinking and smoking everything under the sun. After a year I got fed up and pretty much demanded the money...yeah, I did threaten the guy in a few ways but he did pay me in the end...we haven't spoken since. Last I heard he still lives the same way he did when we were 18, just eeking by.

[Rimbaud]

Same with me. I was 18 and I loaned a $1000 to an old friend to help him buy a truck. He did eventually pay me back...over a year later, and that would have been fine but it was the fact that he did not hold to our original agreement that pissed me off...and there was absolutely no reason for him not to stick to the agreement. He was supposed to pay me $100/wk until it was paid, he had a job and lived at home with his dad, so there was no reason that he couldn't pay me back on time...except that he kept blowing all his money drinking and smoking everything under the sun. After a year I got fed up and pretty much demanded the money...yeah, I did threaten the guy in a few ways but he did pay me in the end...we haven't spoken since. Last I heard he still lives the same way he did when we were 18, just eeking by.

Wow. My budy got in a jam & I help him with about $1000 (rent, car, & traffic tickets). He was supposed to pay me back within a month - he was going to get the money from his parents. We were roommates at the time & I wasn't too worried about it. Well, he wrote me three different checks & each bounced. I ended up demanding the money plus bank fees (which were over $150). If I remember correctly I made a few threats. I think I eventually got about half the money I was owed back. It was too bad because he was like a brother to me. In hind sight we should've never been roommates in college (that basically destroyed out friendship).

[Overload]

These posts remind me why i live alone. EVERY time i move in with a friend we end up hating each other or he owes me money...my best friend who was a brother to me was using my car storage for free. i had an old mustang in there with plenty of room so i figured i'd be nice and let him store his car in there for free. big mistake, BOTH cars came up stolen and he purchased a brand new truck 6 months later with cash...hmmm

The older i get, the less friends i have because i've learned to trust nobody...like Div said i mainly have acquaintances and i've always been a loner, which i actually enjoy. apart from my girlfriend i don't even invite people to my home. if i want to hang out i go to their place.

[Rimbaud]

I'm just not sure you're strong enough to avoid the temptation of a woman, Rimbauder.

I can...sometimes.

[BigNBloated]

Im seeing some similiarities in my personality and experiences in all these stories. Ive become somewhat of a loner myself and have had shitty experiences with friends screwing me over. I hangout/trust about a handfull of people mainly my family and about 1 other guy I know. Is there a trend here among steroid users/bber weighlifters? I just thought it was interesting how similar everyones experiences are on this board. 

[DIVISION]

These posts remind me why i live alone. EVERY time i move in with a friend we end up hating each other or he owes me money...my best friend who was a brother to me was using my car storage for free. i had an old mustang in there with plenty of room so i figured i'd be nice and let him store his car in there for free. big mistake, BOTH cars came up stolen and he purchased a brand new truck 6 months later with cash...hmmm

The older i get, the less friends i have because i've learned to trust nobody...like Div said i mainly have acquaintances and i've always been a loner, which i actually enjoy. apart from my girlfriend i don't even invite people to my home. if i want to hang out i go to their place.

Ever since I got out of the military, I've lived alone.

I will ALWAYS live alone.

I don't need the drama.......I'm too old for that shit.

I won't even invite a woman over unless she's a girlfriend.

People are just too immature nowadays, so I'm careful who I let get close to me.

"The more we grow.
 The more we know.
 The less we show."


DIV

[Princess L]

I'm just not sure you're strong enough to avoid the temptation of a woman, Rimbauder.
DIV

I can...sometimes.

Gosh!  I sure hope you do now!

[BigNBloated]

I hate more than anything people knocking on my door/ringing my doorbell when Im not expecting anyone. Hell I barely answer the phone. It all just seems like intrusion.

[Luv2Hurt]

This is so completely accurate - unfortunately it is the loud mouth "ass bags" who get the most attention because they think it is a badge of honor or something to brag about their cycles to anyone who will listen. 

Personally I take a different strategy so as to minimize the chance of ever being asked these questions (especially at the gym I belong to which is filled with jealous haters and over-zealous "naturals").  I make sure that from the moment I walk into the gym I have my MP3 player on w/headphones inserted and metal cranked, I also avoid eye-contact and "chit-chat" of any kind.  I am probably perceived as an a**hole but so be it - I get work-outs completed efficiently and discourage "supplement" questions of any kind.

The gym is simply not a "social outlet" for me out of necessity.  My goal is to get-in and get-out as efficiently as possible.

Very true, I pretty much do the same.  You can see the guys who stand around and BS, they look like it too.  Not enough hard training going on, some guys gear up and still half ass thier workouts, now that is a joke.  Used to train with this big Russian dude and if you started to BS too much for his likes he would say "STFU and do your set"!

[DIVISION]

Very true, I pretty much do the same.  You can see the guys who stand around and BS, they look like it too.  Not enough hard training going on, some guys gear up and still half ass thier workouts, now that is a joke.  Used to train with this big Russian dude and if you started to BS too much for his likes he would say "STFU and do your set"!

That's the type of training partner everyone needs.

I'm self-motivated so I don't use a partner.

It'd be nice for spots, though.....




DIV

[hooker]

I think most users, even on the discussion forums, are very unsafe. Yesterday on steroid.com, someone was saying you can do 2g a week of tren, if you get bloodwork, etc, and are careful.

I asked for his bloodwork.

He said he didn't have a copy on hand, etc, his dog ate it, blah blah blah....

I think that people know what it is to do steroids responsibly, but just don't follow that route. It makes things very difficult when trying to fight media stereotypes....when even on the forums which espouse responsible use, people don't actually practice it.

[Luv2Hurt]

That's the type of training partner everyone needs.

I'm self-motivated so I don't use a partner.

It'd be nice for spots, though.....




DIV

Yeah I like to train by myself mostly too. But once in a while if the opportunity is there to work with someone further advanced and I feel it can help my training I will train with someone for a while.

I do less forced reps nowadays (maybe a couple sets every other workout or so) but yes good spotters that know what they are doing are hard to find in my gym.  How could someone not get the concept behind a proper assist?  Most give either too much or not enough help

[freakfestMD]

I make sure that from the moment I walk into the gym I have my MP3 player on w/headphones inserted and metal cranked, I also avoid eye-contact and "chit-chat" of any kind.  I am probably perceived as an a**hole but so be it - I get work-outs completed efficiently and discourage "supplement" questions of any kind.

The gym is simply not a "social outlet" for me out of necessity.  My goal is to get-in and get-out as efficiently as possible.

This describes me to a "T."