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US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« on: November 28, 2006, 09:13:45 PM »
Pretty cool that a UK paper will tell us this, but our own news won't.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2006/11/29/cndollar29.xml

Recession is coming, guys. 

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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2006, 09:15:31 PM »
Dollar woes poised to carry over into next year

Wanfeng Zhou
MarketWatch
Tuesday, November 28, 2006

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- After a precipitous slide in the last week that caught many traders off guard, the dollar is vulnerable to further losses and may continue to weaken against major rivals heading into 2007, analysts said Tuesday.

"Sentiment for the dollar has been deteriorating steadily over recent weeks," said Mitul Kotecha, head of global foreign-exchange strategy at French investment bank Calyon. The decline was not prompted by a particular piece of news or data release, "but rather a general worsening in sentiment that saw long held technical levels breached," he said.

"We expect the dollar to weaken further into year end, and retain this tone in the early months of 2007," he said.
The greenback has certainly come under fire in the past week, with the euro pushing through $1.30 on Friday for the first time since April 2005 and the British pound hitting its highest level since Dec. 2004. Traders at first attributed the sharp move to a lack of liquidity with many market players absent for the Thanksgiving holiday.

But the dollar has continued to fall this week and analysts are citing a variety of factors as reasons for the slide, including the U.S. government's reduced expectations for economic growth, worries over the narrowing interest-rate differential between the U.S. and other economies, continued talk of reserve diversification by central banks worldwide, and a warning from China about the risk to Asian currency reserves from further dollar declines.


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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2006, 09:19:37 PM »
a weakened dollar will hurt the EU and Asia much more so than the US.  positives of a weakened dollar outweigh the negatives.

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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2006, 09:21:48 PM »
Pretty cool that a UK paper will tell us this, but our own news won't.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2006/11/29/cndollar29.xml

Recession is coming, guys. 

This info is readily available in the US and anyone involved in the financial markets is aware of this.   The real question is whether it's true.  I'm uniquely interest in currency and credit markets but I'm not sure this is really true although I skew a bit to more to believing it than not

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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2006, 09:25:51 PM »
a weakened dollar will hurt the EU and Asia much more so than the US.  positives of a weakened dollar outweigh the negatives.


Interesting take.  You should call Reuters and set the record straight.  Turns out the numbers see the economies of China, Rus, Eur all going up, while ours goes down.


World economy switches engines as US shudders: OECD

Brian Love
Reuters
Tuesday, November 28, 2006

The U.S. economy is running out of steam but Europe's resurgence and Asia's awakening will prevent the world's economy from derailing as it did after the stock market crash of 2000, the OECD said in a report on Tuesday.

"Rather than a major slowdown, what the world economy may be facing is a rebalancing of growth across OECD regions," said Jean-Philippe Cotis, chief economist at the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

In a twice-yearly Economic Outlook, the OECD forecast growth decelerating next year to 2.5 percent across its 30 mainly rich, industrialized member countries from 3.2 percent this year, and regaining some speed in 2008.

China, India and other fast-growing emerging economies such as Russia would keep going healthily and Europe's comeback this year contributed toward a "rebalancing" of global demand and output which mitigated the impact of a U.S. slowdown that would have spelled trouble for all in decades past.

The OECD cut its forecast growth in a U.S. economy hit by a housing market slump, to 3.3 percent for this year from the 3.6 percent predicted previously, and predicted expansions of 2.4 and 2.7 percent for 2007 and 2008 respectively.


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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2006, 09:37:03 PM »

Interesting take.  You should call Reuters and set the record straight.  Turns out the numbers see the economies of China, Rus, Eur all going up, while ours goes down.


asia is an export oriented continent, weak US dollar= disaster for asian exports.

EU economy has been painfully weak for a very long time, will not change with their current policies. one of its only strengths: exports.  weak US dollar= bad for EU exports.

now the US, weak US dollar= increased exports, decreased imports= low deficit, among a countless other positives.

weak US dollar 100% positive? no.  more positive than negative? YES.

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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2006, 09:39:51 PM »
the cool part about the markets is you can test your beliefs in the market

If you REALLY believe the $ is going to crash then you should be selling $'s or some proxy

no need to waste your time talking about shit but talking is easier and safer than putting some skin in the game

then again, even if you have a large amount $'s in savings you're still facing risk

then you have to factor in interest rates and credit risk

would you rather own bonds backed by the US govt or some other govt

what kind of spread should there be betweend the 2 and 10 year yield

will it shrink or expand

as the dude said

lotta in's

lotta out's

lotta interested parties

A lotta strands to keep in old duder's head

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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2006, 03:58:23 PM »
Another day, another fall in the dollar
The White House wants a strong greenback but the US deficit is weighing heavily

Ashley Seager
London Guardian
Wednesday, November 29, 2006

The dollar came under pressure for the fifth day in row yesterday as further evidence of weakness in the world's largest economy emerged and as a key international body warned that the US economy was running out of steam.

Henry "Hank" Paulson, the US treasury secretary, reiterated on a visit to London that the Bush administration remained wedded to a "strong dollar" but this failed to stem the tide as dealers bet that the long-expected slump in the greenback's value had finally arrived.

Having recovered some lost ground late on Monday, the dollar set a fresh two-year low of just above $1.95 against the pound in hectic trading yesterday. There is widespread speculation that it could soon breach the $2 level - something it has not done for 14 years. It also slid to a 20-month low against the euro of $1.318. The US currency has now shed 11% of its value against the euro this year and 12% against the pound.
In reality, though, the dollar has been falling steadily for four years. On a trade-weighted basis against a basket of other currencies, it has lost nearly 31% of its value as fears over its giant current account deficit drag on the currency.

A big deficit, caused by Americans consuming more goods from abroad than they export, theoretically pushes a currency down until imports become more expensive and exports cheaper, at which point the deficit is reduced. But the dollar has held up because big exporters to the US, such as China, have used their current account surpluses to reinvest in American assets, thus keeping demand for dollars high.

Indeed, the dollar surprised everyone in 2005 by regaining some of the losses of the previous three years and so is still not back to the lows it visited at the end of 2004, in spite of the recent falls.

A weaker dollar means a shopping bonanza for Britons. Airlines and travel firms have seen a surge in bookings as people rush to take advantage of cheap US goods that just got cheaper. The flipside, though, is for British companies such as Jaguar to get hit hard in the American market if prices in dollars rise.


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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2006, 06:21:24 PM »
How long have we been running deficits?  Many years and with no disaster.  The dollar is weakening against the euro- but it is also because the European economy is strong.  The dollar is still strong relative to the Asian economies because they want a strong dollar.

Weakened dollar makes imports cheaper for us and (in theory) provides low income jobs because outsorcing to other countries is now more expensive. 

The reason we are able to operate with huge deficits is because over 80% of the WORLD's savings are invested in America-- foreigners finance our country.  If foreigners stop financing our country then we are in trouble, but if the dollar falls, it is better for foreigners to invest in our country because their rate of return will be higher. 

Reference the Federal Reserve Board for this... it may be a gov't agency but they know are the experts.
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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2006, 11:01:04 PM »
but it is also because the European economy is strong.
are you joking?  no it's not. the EU economy has been extremely sluggish for a long time and isnt improving.  the EURO further inhibits economic growth.

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Weakened dollar makes imports cheaper for us and (in theory)
what??? no it doesnt.  it makes imports more expensive.




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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2006, 11:11:36 PM »
are you joking?  no it's not. the EU economy has been extremely sluggish for a long time and isnt improving. 

Nope.  European economy is booming at the moment.  Very brisk growth.   - OECD

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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2006, 11:51:24 PM »
Nope.  European economy is booming at the moment.  Very brisk growth.   - OECD
compared to their regular growth rates, yes, booming.   so if the EU is booming, when the US is growing faster than their 'booming' economy, the US must be doing phenominal.  growth predictions in 07-08, also have the US in lead(as usual since 1990).  great, the US is doing better than i thought, since the EU is booming and we're doing better than them.

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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2006, 02:21:30 AM »
This weakened dollar bodes well for my trip to the States next April (assuming the dollar is still weak by then).

I approve of this.  :D

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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2006, 04:41:51 AM »
delusional,

in your opinion, what is the state of the US homeowner?  Sparkling shape also? ;)

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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2006, 04:43:05 AM »
why are they about to drop interest rates, if the economy is doing so well?

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Re: US setbacks see dollar plunge to near 15-year low
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2006, 07:19:50 AM »
WAL-MART expected to announce sales fell for first time in decade....

Yep.  Sounds like the economy is doing great.  Delusional, when the #1 retail giant's sales start dropping, that's a REALLY great sign, right?