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Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« on: November 30, 2006, 02:23:56 PM »
Since Ronnies back has gone to shit, is it fair to say Joel; has the best back in the world at this time? His pics in the new edition of MD are astounding, his back for me is unmatched by anyone today
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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2006, 02:26:43 PM »
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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2006, 02:29:24 PM »
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I thought he said back? Is there a pic of this guy's back? I know a lot of people are unhappy with Cutler's win, but his back double bi was insane this past olympia. Wide as hell in other poses too.

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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2006, 02:33:32 PM »
too bad his legs are horrible, like a couple of pencils.

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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2006, 02:34:36 PM »
his nose is really wide.

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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2006, 02:36:16 PM »
his nose is really wide.

if you stood next to him you wouldn't even come upto his balls.


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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2006, 03:01:59 PM »
too bad his legs are horrible, like a couple of pencils.
Yup, came here to same the same thing. Even the 'greatest' back in the world looks silly when propped on top of no legs.

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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2006, 03:09:55 PM »
he tore both quads severely but apparently hes enlisted Milos to get them up to par. And weve all seen the results of a Milos leg day - for good and bad! ha ha
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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2006, 03:11:48 PM »
he tore both quads severely but apparently hes enlisted Milos to get them up to par. And weve all seen the results of a Milos leg day - for good and bad! ha ha
yeah i know, those sets of Smith Machine squats with a massive 25 on each side are brutal. ::)

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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2006, 03:38:41 PM »
Joel Stubbs a better back than Jay Cutler?  ???

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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2006, 04:04:42 PM »



 A short list of the greatest backs of all time would start with names like Ronnie Coleman, Dorian Yates, Lee Haney and Joel Stubbs. Right now, thousands of readers are spitting out protein shakes and asking, "Who the hell is Joel Stubbs?" Leading up to this year's rendition, the first three men had won the past 21 Mr. Olympia titles--but few bodybuilding fans have even heard of the fourth man, and he may never so much as qualify for the Mr. O, much less compete in it.

Still, when Joel Stubbs made his pro debut at the Europa Super Show September 17 in Arlington, Texas, the combination of width, thickness and neck-to-glutes details in the Bahamian's back astounded even this jaded reporter.

The next morning, FLEX's Kevin Horton photographed Stubbs in the sweltering heat of MetroFlex Gym--using the same equipment that built Coleman's legendary lats--and I found out precisely how Stubbs crafted a back that rivals Big Ron's for world's best.

BACKGROUND | First, let's answer the question that made many of you spray your whey. Standing 6'3" and weighing 305 in the offseason and 278 in his pro debut, Joel Stubbs is a tight fit in his office--the cockpit of a jetliner. Stubbs is a pilot for Bahamasair, dividing his time between his native Nassau and his usual destinations of Miami, Florida, and Atlanta, Georgia.  Stubbs played basketball at Florida Technical College and started bodybuilding in 1996. Then, after tearing patellar tendons of both knees on a basketball court, he committed more energy to physique competition, taking the super-heavyweight class of the 2000 Southern States (Marcus Haley won the overall) and securing IFBB pro status by winning the 2003 Central American and Caribbean championships.

"That was the goal I wanted to reach," Stubbs says of that contest. "I was unsure about going on. But I thought why not have some fun in the big league?"

He placed 12th in the 2005 Europa Super Show, hindered by a deficient lower body that was overpowered by his tremendous torso. Stubbs, who turns 38 in December, wants to promote bodybuilding in the Caribbean and see how far he can advance in the "big league," but his primary workplace remains the skies.

BACKTALK | When asked why his back is so outstanding, Stubbs gives the reply of a man who, for obvious physiological reasons, doesn't have a view of himself like the rest of us do--he can't honestly assess that bodypart of his, which is truly a bodybuilding wonder. Fact is, he believes his chest is on par with his back. That's not quite the case, but in any event, we had to delve deeper into just how he crafted his titanic rear view.

Stubbs clearly has a genetic proclivity for back musculature, but he also takes the same rigidly technical approach to his training that he does to landing an airliner. If there's a secret, it lies in the fact that he doesn't merely rep out rows and chins, but he carefully focuses each exercise on specific areas. "The back is a complex muscle group," he explains, "so I concentrate on details and on how the muscles tie together."

He alternates two back workouts. The first, his heavy day, includes more power movements, with pyramided sets for as few as six reps. The second, his light day, includes sets that go up to 15 reps. Most of the year, the gentlemanly islander does a heavy day one week and a light day the next week, but for the final month before a contest, he trains back twice per week.

Six sets of chins, performed in three different styles, remain a constant in both workouts, as does the precise way the wide-bodied jet-flier targets lifts to specific areas of his spacious back. He explains his approach to each exercise.

* Chins "I like doing chins first and with different grips, because this really warms up the various back muscles and stretches them out. When I change my hand positions, I feel different muscles working in different ways. I feel more of my upper lats and rear delts working with the wide forward [overhand] grip.

"With the hammer [palms facing each other] grip, I feel more of the traps tying into the rhomboid area. With the reverse [underhand] grip, I feel more of my rhomboids and the lower part of the lats."

* Deadlifts "Deadlifts are best for lower and midback thickness, all up the lumbar region, from the bottom of the back to the lower traps. I pyramid five or six sets. I start with one plate per side [135 pounds], and every set I go heavier, working all the way up to seven plates per side [675 pounds] for six reps."

* Barbell rows "I pyramid up, starting with one plate per side [135 pounds] for 15 reps and going to three plates per side [315 pounds] for eight to 10 reps. I usually alternate my sets, going underhand for one and overhand for the next. Sometimes I do two overhand and two underhand, sometimes three of each. I feel barbell rows in my upper back and middle back, getting a little better squeeze underhand and a little better stretch overhand. The important thing is to use a weight that's heavy enough to make you really work, but not so heavy that you can't feel the back muscles contracting."

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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2006, 04:06:35 PM »

 His conditioning in the FIRST pic is equal to Cutlers...on Cutlers best days. Well...maybe not. In the first pic Joel is waaaay more vascular.
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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2006, 04:10:32 PM »
Joel Stubbs a better back than Jay Cutler?  ???
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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2006, 04:43:19 PM »
without question

I am a Cutler fan, but I think I agree with you. That middle pic of him standing relaxed is incredible. If his legs are as lacking as you guys say they are, 675 for 6 on the deadlifts is that much more impressive to me.

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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2006, 04:44:29 PM »
hahaha, the dreaded "weight belt photo." hahaha

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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2006, 05:30:05 PM »
Definetely better than Ronnie's back nowaday's but Jay's I'm not sure. Jay's might be thicker.

Now who wants to start a 600 page thread comparing Ronnie, Joel and Dorian's backs?  ;D

I give it to Ronald.
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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2006, 05:37:42 PM »
Excellent back & delts. The calves & hamstrings of a high school cheerleader.
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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2006, 05:42:17 PM »
Dorian has a better back and so does Ronnie at his best.

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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2006, 05:48:57 PM »
back is fantastic, shoulders are good, glutes are even striated.....He really just needs to bring the quads up, his whole posterior chain is nice!

I think he can do damage if he can bring those wheels up, because he can put a TON more size on them.

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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2006, 06:58:30 PM »
Joel's rear lat spread is fucking sick !!!!

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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2006, 10:14:08 PM »
victor martinez. easy.
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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2006, 02:25:25 AM »
victor martinez. easy.

Victor's is huge but I would say Stubbs has a huge and complete back, It just looks better then Victor's and at 6'3 would easily dwarf him in a side by side comparision of backs.
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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2006, 02:33:14 AM »
He's got a very good back and seeing as that wins a lot of points in the mandatories then he's in gretsa shape to win most bodybuilding contests he enters.

But at 6'3'' his legs are always going to be his achilles heel and I can't see him bringing them up to his upper body even at this stage in his career. He'll be lucky if he ever cracks top ten at the Olympia.

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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2006, 03:01:12 AM »
its not about his legs, or how he fares against a prime dorian and ronnie. Its about does he have the best back NOW!
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Re: Does Joel Stubbs have the worlds best back now?
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2006, 03:18:57 AM »
In that case the answer's no, he doesn't have the best back now. I would say Jay's is still a tad better.