Author Topic: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???  (Read 41852 times)

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #225 on: December 08, 2006, 10:05:27 PM »
your speculation does NOT hold up to the test of REALITY, since we can clearly see here that the argument that dorian probably has more musce fibre density and less subcutaneous fat is incorrect:

his arms and chest would NOT appear so watery in comparison to ronnie if he did:

the same holds true for the quads, glutes and hams.

The ONLY part of Dorian that appeared to hold less subcutaneous fat than Ronnie 99 is the lower back and abs. THATS IT.

that does not make up for the other 90% of the body.


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  "Owned" ::) Well, you're wrong for several reasons. First of all, you give your opinion of where Ronnie is drier and pass it as fact. Well, in my opinion, Dorian is drier in all muscles. Secondly, I said that odds are that Dorian is carries more muscle. You conversely, just said they had the same amount and didn't give any evidence. Secondly, even if Doria had the same muscle fiber density as Ronnie, this still would mean that odds are that Dorian carried the most mass, because they even out in skeletal frame and yet Dorian is drier. Now, you said that Dorian is not drier. Well, I think that it is pretty evident that he is. Besides, Dorian could have less intra-muscular water as well. You can't get over this fact, dude. Dorian's greater hardness suggestes, overwhelmingly, that he either had more muscle fibers or less water. One of the two, or both of them. Owned. ;) 8)

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #226 on: December 08, 2006, 10:09:59 PM »
there is no such thing as too much seperation in bodybuilding provided that you have the shape and size to go with it.




No, my point is that maybe it detracts from the illusion of granite-ness which Dorian unquestionably had.

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #227 on: December 08, 2006, 10:15:18 PM »
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First of all, you give your opinion of where Ronnie is drier and pass it as fact. Well, in my opinion, Dorian is drier in all muscles

the pics support my opinion.

they do not support yours except for the two areas that I mentioned, which isn't much..
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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #228 on: December 08, 2006, 10:18:10 PM »
Whoa, I haven't gone crazy, but what I mean is that it might harm his hardness- Dorian's trump card. Something about Dorian that he just looks grainy, hard- like a block of stone; maybe Ronnie is too separated to look like said piece of stone?

Ronnie looks smooth b/c he has perfect skin while Dorian's had little bumps. It's not hard to look grainy when your skin has the texture of sandpaper.








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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #229 on: December 08, 2006, 10:20:03 PM »
in other words, being an ugly motherfucker can help you win Mr. Olympia's!

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #230 on: December 08, 2006, 10:22:07 PM »
Ronnie looks smooth b/c he has perfect skin while Dorian's had little bumps. It's not hard to look grainy when your skin has the texture of sandpaper.









this is very true.


compare complexion:


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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #231 on: December 08, 2006, 10:24:11 PM »
compare skin: no bacne on Ronnie 8)

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #232 on: December 08, 2006, 10:54:30 PM »
That's interesting- you don't think it's the quality of the muscle pushing through the skin? Those black and white shots, for instance. He had the granite appearance on the front- on his legs, too if I'm not mistaken. Yet I'm sure he didn't have acne there.

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #233 on: December 08, 2006, 10:58:40 PM »
That's interesting- you don't think it's the quality of the muscle pushing through the skin? Those black and white shots, for instance. He had the granite appearance on the front- on his legs, too if I'm not mistaken. Yet I'm sure he didn't have acne there.

no, its not the quality of the muscle pushing through the skin.

the ugly acne is there, in full force, you just have to look close:

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #234 on: December 08, 2006, 11:01:58 PM »
the now famous acne:

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #235 on: December 08, 2006, 11:39:41 PM »
Yeah, post the front lat spread from that series. I'd upload it but I don't know how.

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #236 on: December 08, 2006, 11:47:42 PM »
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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #237 on: December 08, 2006, 11:50:56 PM »

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #238 on: December 09, 2006, 12:03:00 AM »
Thanks. How can that be acne?

well, since I am not a dermatologist (I am a gynecologist by training), acne may not be the right term.

but it is bumps and blemishes on the skin.
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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #239 on: December 09, 2006, 12:26:32 AM »
Thanks. How can that be acne?

you can still see the little bumps if you look closely but nevertheless, I'm not sure what you're refering to in the pic. He appears to be smooth and puffy. Just look at his left arm. It seems like you could push it in if you wanted.

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #240 on: December 09, 2006, 12:40:56 AM »
Yeah, how do I upload pics from my machine?

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #241 on: December 09, 2006, 07:11:53 AM »
you can still see the little bumps if you look closely but nevertheless, I'm not sure what you're refering to in the pic. He appears to be smooth and puffy. Just look at his left arm. It seems like you could push it in if you wanted.

dorian's arms, quads and delts often looked smooth and puffy:



its something that the nuthuggers ingnore in their attempt to justify how hard and dry dorian was ::)

In reality, Ronnie 99 was harder overall - arms quads, chest glutes hams, you name it.
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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #242 on: December 09, 2006, 07:34:51 AM »
That's interesting- you don't think it's the quality of the muscle pushing through the skin? Those black and white shots, for instance. He had the granite appearance on the front- on his legs, too if I'm not mistaken. Yet I'm sure he didn't have acne there.

The black & white shots are recycled endlessly, because they exaggerate the remaining definition had after blowing up on that drug cocktail. There are no similar color shots of him like that, for good reason-he didn't look as good with color that revealed the loss of definition.

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #243 on: December 09, 2006, 08:50:19 AM »
The black & white shots are recycled endlessly, because they exaggerate the remaining definition had after blowing up on that drug cocktail. There are no similar color shots of him like that, for good reason-he didn't look as good with color that revealed the loss of definition.

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #245 on: December 09, 2006, 08:56:37 AM »
Great post. !

hardly. that mm is horrible. other than the bit of detail in his right pec, he is smooth everywhere else:

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #246 on: December 09, 2006, 09:01:46 AM »
hardly. that mm is horrible. other than the bit of detail in his right pec, he is smooth everywhere else:



arguing with you is pointless.

Dorian stands up very well to Ronnie in any pose.


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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #247 on: December 09, 2006, 09:02:46 AM »
yeah if Ronnie is 42 ::)

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #248 on: December 09, 2006, 09:08:12 AM »
That bottom comparison has Ronnie from 99 or 2000 and Yates is still holding even, or even defeating Coleman. You are nothing but a bag of excuses.

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Re: Whats That? Ronnie Way Bigger Than Dorian???
« Reply #249 on: December 09, 2006, 09:13:11 AM »
That bottom comparison has Ronnie from 99 or 2000 and Yates is still holding even, or even defeating Coleman. You are nothing but a bag of excuses.

yeah right. put that same ronnie shot in great lighting like dorian's shot and its game over.

notice if you look closely you can see every detail in that shot as you can in the 99 contest shots.

its all there.

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