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Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« on: December 08, 2006, 10:40:12 AM »
Do you think most people use the "competing" excuse, for the reason they abuse drugs?
For example: "Well, I have a "show" coming up, so I'm going to do a mega cycle.
It semi-justifies the abundant usage and makes it seem rational.
What's your opinion?
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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2006, 10:43:23 AM »
no,,

usually gym rats use just as much,,they are just scared to diet/lose weight and get smaller inorder to step on stage. there are many exellent physiqes i see in gyms around that if they had the time and the balls,,,would go quite far. but they dont
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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2006, 10:46:42 AM »
yes i think so.  i'm 243lbs without ever eating any steroids.

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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2006, 10:48:47 AM »
Do you think most people use the "competing" excuse, for the reason they abuse drugs?
For example: "Well, I have a "show" coming up, so I'm going to do a mega cycle.
It semi-justifies the abundant usage and makes it seem rational.
What's your opinion?

yes, crotch, it's okay if you up your cycle even if you don't have a show coming up. don't worry about it, we don't care.

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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2006, 10:50:25 AM »
Do you munch on dbol or something?

well i don't know anything about steroids,  all i know is they have a lot of protein.

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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2006, 10:50:35 AM »
gh...have you ever heard of someone using estrogen pills/birth control to fool a blood test to get a script?  I heard it could work to balance test levels.

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you need to kill me and stuff it in my stomack if you want me to take estrogen tabs
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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2006, 11:32:50 AM »
Crotch is such a bald junkie  ::)
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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2006, 12:18:48 PM »
yes, crotch, it's okay if you up your cycle even if you don't have a show coming up. don't worry about it, we don't care.

Crotch doesn't look like a juicer.

You suggest he start hitting the steroids?

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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2006, 01:21:19 PM »
i heard you should grind up estrogen tabs and put them in the water for your hydroponics system and your weed plants will grow bigger buds.
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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2006, 01:28:45 PM »
Do you think most people use the "competing" excuse, for the reason they abuse drugs?
For example: "Well, I have a "show" coming up, so I'm going to do a mega cycle.
It semi-justifies the abundant usage and makes it seem rational.
What's your opinion?

You might have a point. But the heaviest "juicers" and the most irrational ones I've seen never stepped onstage ever.

Have you?

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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2006, 03:27:47 PM »
Do you think most people use the "competing" excuse, for the reason they abuse drugs?
For example: "Well, I have a "show" coming up, so I'm going to do a mega cycle.
It semi-justifies the abundant usage and makes it seem rational.
What's your opinion?

Croatchie....

People who megadose AAS have various justifications for their behaviour.

For some it's addiction, both a mental and physical one.

For others, it's just a reason to abuse a drug, just one that happens to be anabolic in nature opposed to catabolic.

I think it's high-time you stopped asking the bullshit questions, Croatcher, and joined up with the DarkSide.

At least you can be part of something for once instead of just a casual observer on the outside looking in.

Take a chance in life, bro.



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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2006, 03:37:11 PM »
well i don't know anything about steroids,  all i know is they have a lot of protein.

Is this guy for real?! What a dumb cvunt!!! Go shoot yourself, TurdBrains, and do mankind a tremendous favor!

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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2006, 03:46:03 PM »
I always thought so. :)
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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2006, 04:05:05 PM »
'Naturals' are always obsessed about steroids for some reason.

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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2006, 04:12:00 PM »
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I think it's high-time you stopped asking the bullshit questions, Croatcher, and joined up with the DarkSide.

At least you can be part of something for once instead of just a casual observer on the outside looking in.

Take a chance in life, bro.
Hey, I might as well do some coke and heroin, so I can be part of something and not just an outsider looking in.  Life is about taking chances, don't be a pussy, do some blow.  You're just scared of hard drugs, that's all.
Great comment. ;)
If I wanted to do gear now, I would.  I enjoy lifting without it and realize on or off, you will always max out some day.  Something about doing it natural to me, seems like it requires more balls.  If it were harder to take drugs, I'd probably go that route again.
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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2006, 04:13:41 PM »
Croatch takes like a gram a week of shit.  Great physique though.

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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2006, 04:13:59 PM »
Croatch takes like a gram a week of shit.  Great physique though.

I doubt it. He looks natty to me.

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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2006, 04:17:52 PM »
I doubt it. He looks natty to me.

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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2006, 04:50:42 PM »
People use anabolics for plain and simple reasons if you dont use them and you get your ass on stage at a national level you will get your assed spanked.If you people think these guys who claim to be natural and place at national level shows dont use gear your fooling yourselves.

Yes I used gear, but f**k it alteast I man enough to admit it.I have seen guys and have known guys who were on types of gear enter natural shows.These days even the guys in local shows used more gear then I did when I went into the USA's.

I am not saying drugs are right, because I wish all bodybuilders didnt use drugs, but drugs arent going away its always going to be apart of bodybuilding.People use steroids out of pressure, I know I have been there.I naturally qualified for the Mr USA.

I was totally drug free at the time 33 years old, and off season 255 lbs and competing at 216-220lbs after training for 14-15 years.I was genetically maxed out, and what was I going to do, enter the Mr USA naturally? I could have, but I would have gotten totally killed. I would have been a 5'11" heavyweight at about 216-220 lbs which is not impressive on a big boned man on the national level.

Most of the guys who enter national shows as heavyweights are 5'6-5'8" have small bones and are shredded.Plus conditioning, is another thing a natural guy looks decently hard until you put him against a shredded guy on anabolics. A person on anabolics has rounder fuller muscle bellies , there muscles are twice as dence, and they get twice as hard a a "real " natural guy.

I tip my hat off to all natural guys, because I know how hard it really is to be natural.But there is literally no replacement for steroids, and there is no way around them if you want to go big time in bodybuilding.Its a shame that "REAL " natural shows dont get alot of publicity because the athletes deserve it. The unfortunate thing is most people go to bodybuilding shows to see freaks, not guys who look good.

I was one of the biggest "all natural "bodybuilders in the INBA after 15 years of training, and I could hold a candle to most guys in open national bodybuilding.People go to topless bars to see average looking girls with average size boobs do they? No they go there to see big chested hot looking slutty women, another words freaks.Society is to blame for athletes using steroids.

Take a look at baseball, the sport was slowly  starting to die until big Mark Macguire got on the sauce and started knocking the ball out of the park.If you think he didnt use anabolics your kidding yourself, I have one of his rookie cards and he was  like 145 lbs as a rookie.When he was a his peak he was 250 lbs from Androstene, ?lol I dont think so.

The bottom line is yes it would be nice if steroids werent invented, but the sad truth is they are here to stay like it or not.

As long as the fans and the promoters keep wanting the athletes or bodybuilders to be bigger stronger and faster, the more steroids they will use.You cant blame the athletes, that is there lively hood, and they are paid to perform, if they dont perform, they lose there job or get repelced.In a perfect world there would be no steroids, but infornatly our world isnt perfect and niether are the athletes.

So before you point  fingers at athletes who use anabolics, you may want to look at the reason why they are using them.Trust me from an athlete who did use anabolics up until a year ago, I wish I didnt have to after being natural for 15 years

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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2006, 05:35:08 PM »
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Me 2. Except for the receding hairline but that could be natural too.
No, that is from poor hair genetics. 
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Trust me from an athlete who did use anabolics up until a year ago, I wish I didnt have to after being natural for 15 years
You didn't have to, you chose to in order to stay competitive in bodybuilding.
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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2006, 05:37:42 PM »
People use anabolics for plain and simple reasons if you dont use them and you get your ass on stage at a national level you will get your assed spanked.If you people think these guys who claim to be natural and place at national level shows dont use gear your fooling yourselves.Yes I used gear, but f**k it alteast I man enough to admit it.I have seen guys and have known guys who were on types of gear enter natural shows.These days even the guys in local shows used more gear then I did when I went into the USA's.I am not saying drugs are right, because I wish all bodybuilders didnt use drugs, but drugs arent going away its always going to be apart of bodybuilding.People use steroids out of pressure, I know I have been there.I naturally qualified for the Mr USA.I was  totally drug free at the time 33 years old, and off season 255 lbs and competing at 216-220lbs after training for 14-15 years.I was genetically maxed out, and what was I going to do, enter the Mr USA naturally? I could have, but I would have gotten totally killed.I would have been a 5'11" heavyweight at about 216-220 lbs which is not impressive on a big boned man on the national level.Most of the guys who enter national shows as heavyweights are 5'6-5'8" have small bones and are shredded.Plus conditioning, is another thing a natural guy looks decently hard until you put him against a shredded guy on anabolics.A person on anabolics has rounder fuller muscle bellies , there muscles are twice as dence, and they get twice as hard a a "real " natural guy.I tip my hat off to all natural guys, because I know how hard it really is to be natural.But there is literally no replacement for steroids, and there is no way around them if you want to go big time in bodybuilding.Its a shame that "REAL " natural shows dont get alot of publicity because the athletes deserve it.The unfortunate thing is most people go to bodybuilding shows to see freaks, not guys who look good.I was one of the biggest "all natural "bodybuilders in the INBA after 15 years of training, and I could hold a candle to most guys in open national bodybuilding.People go to topless bars to see average looking girls with average size boobs do they?No they go there to see big chested hot looking slutty women, another words freaks.Society is to blame for athletes using steroids.Take a look at baseball, the sport was slowly  starting to die until big Mark Macguire got on the sauce and started knocking the ball out of the park.If you think he didnt use anabolics your kidding yourself, I have one of his rookie cards and he was  like 145 lbs as a rookie.When he was a his peak he was 250 lbs from Androstene, ?lol I dont think so.The bottom line is yes it would be nice if steroids werent invented, but the sad truth is they are here to stay like it or not.As long as the fans and the promoters keep wanting the athletes or bodybuilders to be bigger stronger and faster, the more steroids they will use.You cant blame the athletes, that is there lively hood, and they are paid to perform, if they dont perform, they lose there job or get repelced.In a perfect world there would be no steroids, but infornatly our world isnt perfect and niether are the athletes.So before you point  fingers at athletes who use anabolics, you may want to look at the reason why they are using them.Trust me from an athlete who did use anabolics up until a year ago, I wish I didnt have to after being natural for 15 years
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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2006, 05:39:55 PM »
Who cares if it is or isn't? It's not hurting you.

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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2006, 05:47:15 PM »
Props to Croatch for keeping it "real" and setting an example.
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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2006, 05:48:48 PM »
Props to Croatch for keeping it "real" and setting an example.


AAS is no less natural than beef. It's just deemed that way by society. However, as we know, society can, and frequently does, get things wrong.

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Re: Is "competing" a way of rationalizing heavy drug use?
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2006, 06:00:10 PM »

AAS is no less natural than beef. It's just deemed that way by society. However, as we know, society can, and frequently does, get things wrong.


That's a retarded argument.

Do you realise how retarded that is?

I've seen studies showing people engaging in everday activities gaining muscle faster on test, then natural trainers. With that kind of power, there's no reason to be impressed by these bloated "bodybuilders." Most people just look at them as juice monkeys cus that's what they are.

And no, let's not mince words. That's semantics you're engaging in. When people say "natural" they mean without the aid of synthetic hormones. You know that and so does everyone else. You're trying to placate yourself by resorting to semantics. Like I said, these guys aren't impressive. None of them, save the top pros.
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