Author Topic: Sergio 1976 - 1985 (Read 45287 times)

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #75 on:** December 12, 2006, 06:26:04 PM »

And you fucking moron pumpster how exactly can I highjack MY OWN thread? lol

pobrecito · « **Reply #76 on:** December 12, 2006, 06:26:46 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on December 12, 2006, 06:26:04 PM

And you fucking moron pumpster how exactly can I highjack MY OWN thread? lol

don't even bother responding to him anymore ND....we are dealing with a mental midget here $:-\$

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #77 on:** December 12, 2006, 06:29:59 PM »

Quote from: pobrecito on December 12, 2006, 06:26:46 PM

don't even bother responding to him anymore ND....we are dealing with a mental midget here $:-\$

I mean I've easily proved him wrong and then he posts a picture of a seal and I highjacked MY own thread? lol maybe he's on bizzaro world or something lol

donrhummy · « **Reply #78 on:** December 12, 2006, 08:44:41 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on December 12, 2006, 05:38:15 PM

I personally don't think Arnold was any more marketable than Sergio , you have a Austrian with a heavy German accent or a Cuban with a heavy Spanish one ,

Back then accent didn't matter. All of bodybuilding and supplements, weight training equipt. was done through print. There was no radio/tv for the bodybuilding world. So Arnold's accent and poor english grammar didn't matter. He could be ghost written for and no one would be the wiser.

logical? · « **Reply #79 on:** December 12, 2006, 08:46:47 PM »

Stop bitching about thread hijacks- you're hijacking it about bitching about the other hijacking it.

On a more comical note, pumpster, is that picture of you?

donrhummy · « **Reply #80 on:** December 12, 2006, 08:53:03 PM »

Arnold was amazing but Sergio is the only bodybuilder who really had the complete package back then and could really stand onstage today (granted he'd have to get a bit more ripped, but the muscle's all there).

How many guys today beat this?

This was a guest posing! Amazing v-taper/x-frame.

DAMN! THICK muscle!

He's what Dexter Jackson would be if he had calves, a bigger chest/forearms and a smaller/tighter waist (without those obliques):

And he did it all starting almost 40 years ago. (meaning he started looking like that almost 40 years ago. I know he actually started before that)

Oh...and no gyno.

logical? · « **Reply #81 on:** December 12, 2006, 08:54:21 PM »

Yeah his frame actually looks alot like Dexter's in that second-last pic- interesting!

pobrecito · « **Reply #82 on:** December 12, 2006, 09:30:04 PM »

Quote from: donrhummy on December 12, 2006, 08:53:03 PM

Arnold was amazing but Sergio is the only bodybuilder who really had the complete package back then and could really stand onstage today (granted he'd have to get a bit more ripped, but the muscle's all there).

How many guys today beat this?

This was a guest posing! Amazing v-taper/x-frame.

DAMN! THICK muscle!

He's what Dexter Jackson would be if he had calves, a bigger chest/forearms and a smaller/tighter waist (without those obliques):

And he did it all starting almost 40 years ago. (meaning he started looking like that almost 40 years ago. I know he actually started before that)

Oh...and no gyno.

Those shots really blow me away. Sergio on modern pharmeceuticals would have been scary.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #83 on:** December 13, 2006, 07:37:32 AM »

Those are some of the best photos of Sergio I have ever seen. Incredibly impressive. IMO, it was really close between Sergio and Arnold most years...easy to argue in favor of either guy. In most contests, Arnold had a little more separation and conditioning, plus a better stage presence which could justify him edging out Sergio most times. No doubt, the weiders preferred arnold to be the champ...but I think he beat sergio on most occasions, though extremely close. Either one of these guys would be champions today with their genetics. Then there was Serge Nubret who actually had a more pleasing physique than Sergio and Arnold...maybe lacked a little overall mass comparitively. Three of the best BBers ever right there! I prefer their physiques to most of the guys today.

donrhummy · « **Reply #84 on:** December 13, 2006, 08:36:45 AM »

Quote from: shootfighter1 on December 13, 2006, 07:37:32 AM

Those are some of the best photos of Sergio I have ever seen. Incredibly impressive. IMO, it was really close between Sergio and Arnold most years...easy to argue in favor of either guy. In most contests, Arnold had a little more separation and conditioning, plus a better stage presence which could justify him edging out Sergio most times. No doubt, the weiders preferred arnold to be the champ...but I think he beat sergio on most occasions, though extremely close. Either one of these guys would be champions today with their genetics. Then there was Serge Nubret who actually had a more pleasing physique than Sergio and Arnold...maybe lacked a little overall mass comparitively. Three of the best BBers ever right there! I prefer their physiques to most of the guys today.

I agree on most of that but I think Sergio looked better than Serge (at Sergio's best). They both had pleasing shape to their muscles/physiques but only Sergio was in proportion. Serge's legs and lats were under-proportioned and some of his muscle bellies (like his forearms) were a little too short.

pumpster · « **Reply #85 on:** December 13, 2006, 08:42:57 AM »

To repeat after ignoring the last pages, Arnold benefitted from far better and far more numerous good pics and film footage from Pumping Iron that Oliva didn't. It would be easy to jump to conclusions based on that imbalance in evidence.

In shape, it's a coin-toss between them, just a matter of preference.

Here, Oliva beating Schwarzenegger on virtually all levels, losing on none:

pumpster · « **Reply #86 on:** December 13, 2006, 08:45:53 AM »

Very comparable, despite desperate excuses to the contrary & desperate attempts to distract via thread hijacks by Beavis & Butthead:

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #87 on:** December 13, 2006, 08:49:07 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on December 09, 2006, 07:27:35 AM

Who called Dorian the Blocky white guy?

Dorian is a blocky white guy....how is that racist?

pumpster · « **Reply #88 on:** December 13, 2006, 08:53:39 AM »

Quote from: Groink on December 13, 2006, 08:49:07 AM

Dorian is a blocky white guy....how is that racist?

hahahah So true. Basically they'll jump on any excuse.

Iceman1981 · « **Reply #89 on:** December 13, 2006, 10:39:03 AM »

Quote from: daddywaddy on December 12, 2006, 02:47:38 PM

sergio loses all credibility because he juiced for that physique and now looks like a pile of shit because of the juice causing all sorts of problems

serge nubret is still a bad motha fucka to this day

Credibility? lol. Didn't Arnold, Zane, Columbo, Draper, Lou etc. juice? And you're telling me no other bodybuilder juiced from his era? Face it, Sergio had the greatest genetics ever. He looks like how he looks now because of something called "age".

Lord Humungous · « **Reply #90 on:** December 13, 2006, 10:40:46 AM »

Quote from: donrhummy on December 12, 2006, 08:53:03 PM

Arnold was amazing but Sergio is the only bodybuilder who really had the complete package back then and could really stand onstage today (granted he'd have to get a bit more ripped, but the muscle's all there).

How many guys today beat this?

This was a guest posing! Amazing v-taper/x-frame.

DAMN! THICK muscle!

He's what Dexter Jackson would be if he had calves, a bigger chest/forearms and a smaller/tighter waist (without those obliques):

And he did it all starting almost 40 years ago. (meaning he started looking like that almost 40 years ago. I know he actually started before that)

Oh...and no gyno.

The picture with Sergio shaking hands with the photographer is amazing. Without a doubt one of the best of all time!

Iceman1981 · « **Reply #91 on:** December 13, 2006, 10:42:16 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on December 12, 2006, 04:50:09 PM

Check out his arms they look bigger than his quads !!

It was documented in a book that Sergio's arms were bigger than his head and Sergio's quads were bigger than his waist. That shows you how great of an "X" taper the guy had.

pumpster · « **Reply #92 on:** December 13, 2006, 10:44:42 AM »

Quote from: Iceman1981 on December 13, 2006, 10:39:03 AM

Credibility? lol. Didn't Arnold, Zane, Columbo, Draper, Lou etc. juice? And you're telling me no other bodybuilder juiced from his era? Face it, Sergio had the greatest genetics ever. He looks like how he looks now because of something called "age".

This ND's a serial liar. Words are like ~~gold~~ lead. Made-up as he goes along.

Iceman1981 · « **Reply #93 on:** December 13, 2006, 10:45:59 AM »

Quote from: Sergio Rules 77 on December 12, 2006, 05:00:47 PM

The story goes that Ben Weider's son saw Sergio at the 1969 Olympia and said "Daddy, who's the man with the four legs".

SERGIO!!!!

lol, that was a good one.

donrhummy · « **Reply #94 on:** December 13, 2006, 10:47:49 AM »

Quote from: Lord Humungous on December 13, 2006, 10:40:46 AM

The picture with Sergio shaking hands with the photographer is amazing. Without a doubt one of the best of all time!

Isn't it incredible? A lot of the BB's are huge but when you see them next to normal people, they don't always look as impressive (usually because they're so short). But Sergio, next to that guy, looks amazing!

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #95 on:** December 13, 2006, 10:50:01 AM »

Quote from: Groink on December 13, 2006, 08:49:07 AM

Dorian is a blocky white guy....how is that racist?

I never said it was racist , I said pumpster constantly brings up a persons race , and this is the comment that pumpy gets heat for

Quote

pumpster
Who cares what Lee Priest says, he's not exactly stable on his 3rd marriage.

Lots of racism still around in redneck Australia as well.

Classic bricklayer shot..

He implied Lee Priest was racist by virtue of being born in Australia and this is because of Lee Preist when asked if Dorian could beat Ronnie he said yes with ease .

Iceman1981 · « **Reply #96 on:** December 13, 2006, 10:50:40 AM »

Quote from: Matt C on December 12, 2006, 05:25:25 PM

Arnold had more market appeal and of course Joe Weider's goal was to sell magazines, what any good businessman would want to do. But as good as Arnold was he still had characteristics of a human being while Sergio was all cartoon. I don't think we'll ever see a taper like his again.

Try telling that to some of the "nut jobs" on here who don't believe in selling more magazines and who is more marketable. All politics as Arnold even said in his book many times, but still know one wants to believe it. The one guy (Arnold) who made what bodybuilding is today stated what really is going on and no one wants to hear it. lol. it's a complete joke.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #97 on:** December 13, 2006, 10:52:32 AM »

Quote from: Iceman1981 on December 13, 2006, 10:50:40 AM

Try telling that to some of the "nut jobs" on here who don't believe in selling more magazines and who is more marketable. All politics as Arnold even said in his book many times, but still know one wants to believe it. The one guy (Arnold) who made what bodybuilding is today stated what really is going on and no one wants to hear it. lol. it's a complete joke.

Politics is an excuse when you have nothing left.

Iceman1981 · « **Reply #98 on:** December 13, 2006, 10:59:25 AM »

Quote from: logical? on December 12, 2006, 05:31:31 PM

It's probably debatable that Arnold beat Sergio on abs because he had better conditioning. Remember, whilst Sergio had crappy abs, he also had off conditioning. And Arnold's were weird- he had a four-pack.

Further, I think the biceps issue is a matter of taste. Peak is cool, but I've always thought that long biceps like Sergio and Levrone's are much more powerful-looking and impressive.

Posing ability doesn't affect who had the better physique.

Crappy abs? Not crappy, but not the best. Here is a good ab shot pic of sergio.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #99 on:** December 13, 2006, 11:00:37 AM »

Quote from: shootfighter1 on December 13, 2006, 07:37:32 AM

Those are some of the best photos of Sergio I have ever seen. Incredibly impressive. IMO, it was really close between Sergio and Arnold most years...easy to argue in favor of either guy. In most contests, Arnold had a little more separation and conditioning, plus a better stage presence which could justify him edging out Sergio most times. No doubt, the weiders preferred arnold to be the champ...but I think he beat sergio on most occasions, though extremely close. Either one of these guys would be champions today with their genetics. Then there was Serge Nubret who actually had a more pleasing physique than Sergio and Arnold...maybe lacked a little overall mass comparitively. Three of the best BBers ever right there! I prefer their physiques to most of the guys today.

Great post.