ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?

[Marty Champions]

after seeing this rhino guy lift and all the other lame bodybuilding videos who act like they are completely wasted after 5 sets of back or chest or whatever i think i need to help all who have been brainwashed by these weak ass training methods by drug users.


youtube i beleive uploads up to a maximum 100mb so thats around 18-20 minutes of footage and i can only get in about 40 sets during that time , even that is nothing. I routinely can bust out 60 sets of squats , curls , rows, bench presses, pushups, hanging leg lifts, close grip benches ect...i am disgusted at these stupid bitch workouts!

[beatmaster]

please show us, in two part!!!

[JOHN MATRIX]

after seeing this rhino guy lift and all the other lame bodybuilding videos who act like they are completely wasted after 5 sets of back or chest or whatever i think i need to help all who have been brainwashed by these weak ass training methods by drug users.


youtube i beleive uploads up to a maximum 100mb so thats around 18-20 minutes of footage and i can only get in about 40 sets during that time , even that is nothing. I routinely can bust out 60 sets of squats , curls , rows, bench presses, pushups, hanging leg lifts, close grip benches ect...i am disgusted at these stupid bitch workouts!

i totally agree, once you try a true volume workout over hours with millions of sets and reps you cant help but laugh at those who think their 5x5 workouts are 'intense' LOL
little do they know that after those 5 sets they could still do another 30 minutes of lifting in all honesty.
i also have to send out another 'LOL' at those who consider their weightlifting 'sufficient cardio' LOL

[Marty Champions]

i totally agree, once you try a true volume workout over hours with millions of sets and reps you cant help but laugh at those who think their 5x5 workouts are 'intense' LOL
little do they know that after those 5 sets they could still do another 30 minutes of lifting in all honesty.
i also have to send out another 'LOL' at those who consider their weightlifting 'sufficient cardio' LOL

i fully agree, you can go all fuckin out on 5x5 big fuckin deal , thes losers thinks thats all that takes, what these losers need to to is do there all out 5x5 then see if they can keep up with a real workout by adding an additioninal 55 sets!  its much more mental than physical! its easy to get bored when trying to do crazy amount of sets, and just say fuck it and stop after 20-30sets, but who has the fuckin balls to do 60 sets or even 100 sets for one bodypart. its not nearly the most fun entertaining routine but it produces results.

hell i am like most people and really want to just fuckin quit after a good 20-30 sets hell it used to be 10 sets, i start thinking about other shit that would be more fun that 60 set workout, its fuckin brutal!

[SteelePegasus]

i totally agree, once you try a true volume workout over hours with millions of sets and reps you cant help but laugh at those who think their 5x5 workouts are 'intense' LOL
little do they know that after those 5 sets they could still do another 30 minutes of lifting in all honesty.
i also have to send out another 'LOL' at those who consider their weightlifting 'sufficient cardio' LOL

Mike Mentzer and others that follow HIT might disagree with you

[Marty Champions]

Mike Mentzer and others that follow HIT might disagree with you

those guys can give all they want for 5 sets of 5, but the fact is the human body is capable of enduring ALOT more than that, of course your last 5 sets of you 60 set workout you may not be using as much weight but you are still going to failure and its still a fuckin challenge.

you cant honestly beleive that 5sets of 5 at 100 % intensity is equal to 60 sets of 5 starting out with 100% intensity down to 80% even remotly compares to a low volume workout bro! you cant compare!

[figgs]

It sounds like the only real challenges with this type of routine is to catch a day with a free schedule and to accept and endure the detrimental effects of overtraining.

I'm not convinced. Have any new pics to be compared with the Mr. GB pics?

[figgs]

Mike Mentzer and others that follow HIT might disagree with you

LOL I'm on it already.

[affy]

upload a video man

im sure everyone would be interested.  You definitely have the potential to be a top pro at the IFPA, or NGA.  Honestly im still doubting you can achieve the development you have with the crazy volume you talk about, so video proof would shut alot of people up.

by the way...just quickly jot down you normal workout split

[Marty Champions]

another example lets say i do pullups HIT style

5 sets 10-20reps or whatever HIT style giving it all i got... will give you neglegeble results if anything to an advanced trainer

now lets do a 60 set workout starting out in HIT style giving it all you got now lets say after 5 sets you are only getting about 6-10 reps. you are still doing about 50 TIMES the workout you would doing HIT!!!!


50 Times!!!!!!! but who the fuck wants to do 60 sets of pullups ? maybe if you want to be the best you will do 100 sets?

[affy]

What about overtraining?

well according to highvolume trainers

overtraining=overrated

if daddywaddy isn't bullshitting us...then i guess it is over rated looking at his amazing development

[Marty Champions]

another example lets say i do pullups HIT style

5 sets 10-20reps or whatever HIT style giving it all i got... will give you neglegeble results if anything to an advanced trainer

now lets do a 60 set workout starting out in HIT style giving it all you got now lets say after 5 sets you are only getting about 6-10 reps. you are still doing about 50 TIMES the workout you would doing HIT!!!!


50 Times!!!!!!! but who the f**k wants to do 60 sets of pullups ? maybe if you want to be the best you will do 100 sets?

you see poundage or reps will go down when you approach 60 or 100 sets but you are still GIVING IT ALL U GOT! that is the premise behind HIT "GIVING IT ALL U GOT" on everyset when you are fatigued, i prefer to eat also during these workouts. ive never done a 100 set workout for one bodypart though. i recently got into the 60 set stuff. but have always done hight volume around 30 on average-40 sets

[JOHN MATRIX]

Mike Mentzer and others that follow HIT might disagree with you

that will work for a dude with great genetics WHO JUICES HEAVILY. for nattys, its not so effective.
i had this revelation a while back, i had just done my 50 pullups after a run. i usually went to 50 in 3-4 sets and feel like im done. but then that day i thought, 'why dont i just do more?' so i kept doing set after set and lo and behold i ended up doing 120 pullups and literally could not pull myself up anymore. ive been doing  the same thing with other lifts.

many guys get complacent doing your usual routines, not even realizing how much more you are capable of putting into it.

try it with dips, do as many as you can in one set, for as many sets as possible till you are physically incapable of lifting yourself anymore. dont limit yourslef to '10 reps' or '5 sets' or anything. alot of you will surprise yourselves

[Marty Champions]

well according to highvolume trainers

overtraining=overrated

if daddywaddy isn't bullshitting us...then i guess it is over rated looking at his amazing development

you think i waste my time bullshitting u guys? shure i may have joked and bullshitted about things eating icecream and pizza all the time yes of course u can eat that and be cut, but to keep your bodyfat in check and eat those foods you have to do a fuckload of working out.


you will soon see on my dvd how to really train

[figgs]

those guys can give all they want for 5 sets of 5, but the fact is the human body is capable of enduring ALOT more than that, of course your last 5 sets of you 60 set workout you may not be using as much weight but you are still going to failure and its still a fuckin challenge.

you cant honestly beleive that 5sets of 5 at 100 % intensity is equal to 60 sets of 5 starting out with 100% intensity down to 80% even remotly compares to a low volume workout bro! you cant compare!

Sure, the human body is capable of dragging out a workout for a huge duration, but the fact is our goal is to build muscle. And our muscles only require a short amount of time resisting against intense muscular contractions before the growth process is activated.

While weight training for the hopes of being rewarded with optimal increases in muscle mass, more is not better; less is not better; the precise amount required is best.

Compare the stress of exercise to other forms of stress. For example, the stress of friction or sun exposure on skin. A precise amount of time is required before good effects (overcompensation) of this form of stress are experienced, from the development of calluses to a nice tan. But too much exposure and the bad effects (decompensation) are experienced, such as depletion, blisters and burns from the sun and blisters and loss of tissue from friction.

Now compare to exercise. The precise amount of exercise (overcompensation) and you experience gains in mass and strength. Too much exercise stress (decompensation) and you lose mass and strength.

I've overtrained and lost progress from overtraining with 15-20 sets before and 60 is something I wouldn't even dream of trying.

[Marty Champions]

that will work for a dude with great genetics WHO JUICES HEAVILY. for nattys, its not so effective.
i had this revelation a while back, i had just done my 50 pullups after a run. i usually went to 50 in 3-4 sets and feel like im done. but then that day i thought, 'why dont i just do more?' so i kept doing set after set and lo and behold i ended up doing 120 pullups and literally could not pull myself up anymore. ive been doing  the same thing with other lifts.

many guys get complacent doing your usual routines, not even realizing how much more you are capable of putting into it.

try it with dips, do as many as you can in one set, for as many sets as possible till you are physically incapable of lifting yourself anymore. dont limit yourslef to '10 reps' or '5 sets' or anything. alot of you will surprise yourselves

i totally agree. if your going to set limits , make the limits seem inhuman , and you never know you may acheive something inhuman like 100 sets of pullups!

[Marty Champions]

Sure, the human body is capable of dragging out a workout for a huge duration, but the fact is our goal is to build muscle. And our muscles only require a short amount of time resisting against intense muscular contractions before the growth process is activated.

While weight training for the hopes of being rewarded with optimal increases in muscle mass, more is not better; less is not better; the precise amount required is best.

Compare the stress of exercise to other forms of stress. For example, the stress of friction or sun exposure on skin. A precise amount of time is required before good effects (overcompensation) of this form of stress are experienced, from the development of calluses to a nice tan. But too much exposure and the bad effects (decompensation) are experienced, such as depletion, blisters and burns from the sun and blisters and loss of tissue from friction.

Now compare to exercise. The precise amount of exercise (overcompensation) and you experience gains in mass and strength. Too much exercise stress (decompensation) and you lose mass and strength.

I've overtrained and lost progress from overtraining with 15-20 sets before and 60 is something I wouldn't even dream of trying.

by your analagy then i would be shrinked up to nothing by the way i workout. you dont make sense bro, you are only what 19? and have been training what 2 years maybe 5 years? Im 25 been training 11 years alot of time wasted doing normal workout routines, many years down the tube that i couldve made real progress REALLY pushing myself to do more and more sets and reps. you will learn for yourself one day or maybe you wont learn if you have a closed mind bro

[Stubborn]

If you can achieve good results from any given training protocol then why would you try this? It makes no sense other than to prove to yourself that you can do 60 sets. If it works for you then great! If other people can get the same results without all the workload then why try to shove this down their throat as if it is "superior?"

[Marty Champions]

If you can achieve good results from any given training protocol then why would you try this? It makes no sense other than to prove to yourself that you can do 60 sets. If it works for you then great! If other people can get the same results without all the workload then why try to shove this down their throat as if it is "superior?"

i dont progress doing 20-30 sets because i was used to doing that for many years

[JOHN MATRIX]

HIT, low rep/low sets/heavy weight workouts are necessary for STRENGTH. for sheer strength, like for PL'ers, low reps near max weigth is the way to go.
BUT, for appearance purposes, volume is the way to go to achieve a complete physique with full muscle volume and leaness/cuts, for staying in shape and looking awesome.

[Stubborn]

i dont progress doing 20-30 sets because i was used to doing that for many years

Glad it works for you.


So you started working out @ 14? You are 6 foot what? And you weight 220 or so?

[Vince B]

How many sets is optimal for growth? How many sets are required for maximum growth in any one day? Those two questions may not be the same. I have concluded that big muscles are good for endurance lifting of reasonably heavy resistance. I believe high intensity training is not correct in theory. You can make gains using it for a while but cannot sustain growth over years. The one common thing that all big guys do re training is lots of sets with heavy weights.

The experiment done with fowl suggest that continuous tension for long periods of time per day leads to rapid hypertrophy. That sort of protocol is not practical for humans but it might be that many, many sets are required to stimulate the maximum growth that is possible each day. The trick is to keep that maximum growth occurring each workout. That is what no one has been able to achieve for any length of time. If they could they might be able to start with 16 inch arms and put on perhaps 2 inches in about one month. Those who claim they are getting good results should keep track of their gains and write about them after they have built up some impressive size.

[beatmaster]

is that the video that TA was talking about, with you?

[ManBearPig...]

Glad it works for you.


So you started working out @ 14? You are 6 foot what? And you weight 220 or so?

and looks better than you?

[Stubborn]

and looks better than you?

Absolutely. Dont know if I will go back to BBing ever again? Probably not.