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Death Penalty
« on: December 14, 2006, 09:41:26 AM »
Maybe they should go back to "Old Sparky"?

2-dose Fla. execution sparks criticism
By RON WORD, Associated Press Writer
 
STARKE, Fla. - Death penalty opponents criticized the execution of a convicted murderer who took more than half an hour to die and needed a rare second dose of lethal chemicals.

Angel Nieves Diaz, 55, convicted of murdering a Miami topless bar manager 27 years ago, appeared to grimace before dying Wednesday, 34 minutes after the first dose.

Department of Corrections spokeswoman Gretl Plessinger said she doesn't believe Diaz felt any pain and had liver disease, which required the second dose.

"It was not unanticipated. The metabolism of the drugs to the liver is slowed," Plessinger said.

Diaz's cousin Maria Otero said the family had never heard he suffered from liver disease.

"Why a stupid second dose?" Otero said.

Gov. Jeb Bush said the Department of Corrections followed all protocols.

"A preexisting medical condition of the inmate was the reason tonight's procedure took longer than recent procedures carried out this year," the governor said in a news release.

A spokesman for Floridians for Alternatives to the Death Penalty, called Diaz's death a botched execution.

"They had to execute him twice," Mark Elliot said. "If Floridians could witness the pain and the agony of the executed man's family, they would end the death penalty."

In most Florida executions, the prisoner loses consciousness almost immediately and stops moving within three-to-five minutes. Two doctors watching a heart monitor then wait for it to show a flat line. They then inspect the body and pronounce death. The whole process happens within 15 minutes.

Diaz appeared to move for 24 minutes after the first injection. His eyes were open, his mouth opened and closed and his chest rose and fell. He was pronounced dead 10 minutes after his last movement.

Plessinger said Thursday that prison officials told her a second dose had been used before on an inmate, but they did not know when. The state has never announced publicly that the extra chemicals were needed. Until a revised protocol came out in August, prison officials did not keep records on events in lethal injections.

Diaz's final appeals to the  U.S. Supreme Court challenged the chemicals used in the state's procedure, saying they constitute cruel and unusual punishment. His appeals were rejected about an hour before his execution began.

Attorneys for him and other condemned inmates have been unsuccessfully challenging Florida's three-chemical method, saying it results in extreme pain that an inmate cannot express because one of the drugs is a paralyzing agent.

Moments before his execution, Diaz again denied killing Joseph Nagy during a robbery at the Velvet Swing Lounge. There were no eyewitnesses to Nagy's Dec. 29, 1979, murder. Most of the club's employees and patrons were locked in a restroom, but Diaz's girlfriend told police he was involved.

The governor of Diaz's native Puerto Rico sought clemency for him. Puerto Rico, a U.S. territory, abolished capital punishment in 1929.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061214/ap_on_re_us/diaz_execution

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2006, 10:41:04 AM »
Took em 27 years to decide and kill this scum?  ??? They should just use cyanide injections.

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2006, 12:50:14 PM »
Twenty-seven years is ridiculous.

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2006, 03:33:40 PM »
Executions halted in Flordia.  I wonder how long it took this criminal's victims to die?  So it took 34 minutes for him to die.  So what. 

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/12/15/diaz.execution.ap/index.html

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2006, 03:36:01 PM »
I like the idea of it.  I think it sends a better deterrent message than numbing them before they die.
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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2006, 04:51:13 PM »
Death Penalties for criminals that are absolutely 100% guilty should be cruel, I don't care.  But that's the problem, our system seems happy as fuck to put away a man on shit zero for evidence.  When DNA started showing just how many innocent people were in prison and or death row, it should have been an absolute wakeup call for some sort of change, but...... nope :-\

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2006, 05:27:12 PM »
DNA has freed a lot of innocent people (see the Innocence Project), but it is a statistically small number.  The overwhelming majority of people who are convicted of crimes are actually guilty.  Which is the way the system should be.  You don't want the government locking up a bunch of innocent people. 

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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2006, 05:43:37 PM »
Death Penalties for criminals that are absolutely 100% guilty should be cruel, I don't care.  But that's the problem, our system seems happy as f**k to put away a man on shit zero for evidence.  When DNA started showing just how many innocent people were in prison and or death row, it should have been an absolute wakeup call for some sort of change, but...... nope :-\

I say death to all parking violators :-X!!

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2006, 05:44:04 PM »
If one Innocent's life is destroyed it's too much... If the evidence isn't there the man shouldn't do time.  DNA is only part of the issue, don't forget all the crime labs that got busted for hooking up the prosecution.  For what, so some asshole can look like he's doing a good job, meanwhile there's a killer on the loose.

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2006, 05:44:37 PM »
I say death to all parking violators :-X!!
someone took your spot today ;D

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2006, 05:45:15 PM »
I say death to all parking violators :-X!!

Death to meter maids! 

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2006, 05:57:30 PM »
Death to meter maids! 
Ok, I think we have a consensus :P

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2006, 06:11:48 PM »
they stopped cooking those fuckers?  bullshit!!!
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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2006, 06:16:49 PM »
they stopped cooking those fuckers?  bullshit!!!
At least it can't totally be blamed on liberals.  Geb did half it at least ;D

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2006, 04:06:18 PM »
I'm shocked (so to speak) by the outcry.  Who said an execution has to be painless?  Heck, they used Old Sparky in Florida for years.  Other than beheading, what is more gruesome than the electric chair?

States rethink lethal injection protocol after inmate's 'painful' death last week
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) — Death penalty foes have warned for years of the possibility that an inmate being executed by lethal injection could remain conscious, experiencing severe pain as he slowly dies.

That day may have arrived.

Angel Nieves Diaz, a career criminal executed for killing a Miami topless bar manager 27 years ago, was given a rare second dose of deadly chemicals as he took more than twice the usual time to succumb. Needles that were supposed to inject drugs into the 55-year-old man's veins were instead pushed all the way through the blood vessels into surrounding soft tissue. A medical examiner said he had chemical burns on both arms.

"It really sounds like he was tortured to death," said Jonathan Groner, associate professor of surgery at the Ohio State Medical School, a surgeon who opposes the death penalty and writes frequently about lethal injection. "My impression is that it would cause an extreme amount of pain."

The error in Diaz's execution led Gov. Jeb Bush to suspend all executions Friday. Separately, a federal judge extended a moratorium on executions in California, declaring that its method of lethal injection violates the constitutional ban on cruel and unusual punishment.

They were just the latest challenges to lethal injection — the preferred execution method in 37 states. Missouri's injection method, similar to California's, was declared unconstitutional last month by a federal judge. The U.S. Supreme Court has upheld executions despite the pain they might cause, but has left unsettled the issue of whether the pain is unconstitutionally excessive.

Diaz was given three drugs: to deaden pain, paralyze the body and cause a fatal heart attack. A study published last year in the British medical journal The Lancet concluded that the painkiller, sodium pentothal, could wear off before inmates die, subjecting them to excruciating pain when the potassium chloride causes a heart attack.

That study has been cited in unsuccessful appeals for death row inmates, who have claimed any pain experienced during lethal injection violates the cruel and unusual standard.

Dr. Nik Gravenstein, professor and chairman of anesthesiology at the University of Florida, said it is impossible to say how much pain the chemicals produce since inmates can't be interviewed while being executed, but he said patients given lower levels of the same chemicals for various treatments "describe this as being painful."

Dr. William Hamilton, the Gainesville medical examiner who performed the autopsy on Diaz, refused to say if Diaz died painfully until the autopsy is complete.

Florida Corrections Secretary James McDonough said the execution team did not see any swelling of Diaz's arms that would have indicated that the chemicals were going into tissues and not his veins.

McDonough also said reports that he received indicated Diaz had fallen asleep and was snoring.

However, witnesses reported Diaz was moving as long as 24 minutes after the first injection, including grimacing, blinking, licking his lips, blowing and attempting to mouth words.

It took 34 minutes for Diaz to die. Executions by lethal injection normally take about 15 minutes, with the inmate unconscious and motionless within three to five minutes.

Gravenstein said it can be difficult to get IV needles in their proper place. In a hospital setting, the average is 1.6 tries to successfully place an IV.

"The whole process has a lot of opportunity not to go as intended," he said.

He said someone should have realized what was happening.

"To have given somebody many times what is necessary and then to give them many more times again, it doesn't pass what one might call the 'red face test.' It just doesn't make sense. You have to be suspicious that something's not right," Gravenstein said.

Dr. Philip Lumb, chairman of the anesthesiology department at the Keck School of Medicine at the University of Southern California, was critical of the second dosage given to Diaz. He said he has never made any statements for or against the death penalty.

"If an IV has to be given a second time, it is an indication it has not done right the first time," Lumb said.

An attorney representing Diaz's family, D. Todd Doss, said legal action was being considered.

"We are still grieving. It continues to get worse and worse, learning the details of what happened," said Sol Otero, Diaz' niece from Orlando. "The excruciating pain and torture my uncle went through for 34 minutes. He was literally crucified."

http://www.courttv.com/news/2006/1218/botched_execution_ap.html

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2006, 04:14:53 PM »
It's not cruel....they do die. ;D
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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2006, 07:50:01 PM »
Death penalties and harsh prisons are macro-economically disasterous. Every inmate is a producing unit gone to shits.

As is every criminal.

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2024, 04:11:28 PM »
If we are going to impose the death penalty for non-capital crimes, this guy should definitely be on the list.

Chicago veterinarian, dog show judge charged with child porn; FBI says he boasted of drugging and abusing multiple kids
By Todd Feurer, Charlie De Mar
Updated on: March 26, 2024
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/adam-stafford-king-veterinarian-dog-show-judge-arrested-child-pornography/

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2024, 07:37:16 AM »
If we are going to impose the death penalty for non-capital crimes, this guy should definitely be on the list.

Chicago veterinarian, dog show judge charged with child porn; FBI says he boasted of drugging and abusing multiple kids
By Todd Feurer, Charlie De Mar
Updated on: March 26, 2024
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/adam-stafford-king-veterinarian-dog-show-judge-arrested-child-pornography/

At the very least, life in prison without parole, and full removal of all sex organs.

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2024, 07:46:05 AM »
If we are going to impose the death penalty for non-capital crimes, this guy should definitely be on the list.

Chicago veterinarian, dog show judge charged with child porn; FBI says he boasted of drugging and abusing multiple kids
By Todd Feurer, Charlie De Mar
Updated on: March 26, 2024
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/adam-stafford-king-veterinarian-dog-show-judge-arrested-child-pornography/

He's married to a man and planned to sexually abuse his newborn (surrogate birth).
Typical retarded and criminally perverted libtard..

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2024, 03:23:13 PM »
At the very least, life in prison without parole, and full removal of all sex organs.

Yep.

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Re: Death Penalty
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2024, 03:23:53 PM »
He's married to a man and planned to sexually abuse his newborn (surrogate birth).
Typical retarded and criminally perverted libtard..

Our society is producing some real monsters.