So would you fight Kimbo?

[Diesel1]

10,000 purse, winner takes all and the chance to become a internet legend if you win. any takers?

[Old_Rooster]

I'd rather see him in the ring with any light heavy or heavyweight in the UFC and see his ass get knocked out in less than 30 seconds.

[bigbalddaddy]

$10g's?  Serioulsy?  I got your man!  Regular joe schmoe whitey from the midwest!  6' 215lbs!  This will be like taking candy from a baby!  Line it up!!!!

[body88]

What would happen if Kimbo fought Matt Hughes?

[Fury]

What would happen if Kimbo fought Matt Hughes?

MMA rules? He'd probably lose but I don't know. Hughes might be too small for Kimbo. Put him with any decent 205 guy that walks around near 220-230 and he wouldn't stand a chance.  Depends on how well his training at ATT has been going, though. He would be annihilated under PRIDE rules. He might stand a chance in the UFC if he can get a guy up against the fence and launches some elbows. I doubt it, however.

For 10,000 regardless of winning or losing I'd fight him. Worst thing is you get knocked out in a couple seconds and come out with $10k. 

[ToxicAvenger]

10,000 purse, winner takes all and the chance to become a internet legend if you win. any takers?

 a hungry afghani offered $100 would rip him to pieces..

then prolly try to fuck the corpse.. 

i remember once in north paki watching  a donkey laden with 4 sacks of grain going up a steep hill...it ws steep enough that the donkeys hind legs kept going..everynow n then you'd see it stumble and a shower of stones would come tumbling down...

thing is..beside him ws an old afghani bent over..with 4 sacks on this damn back guiding the friggin donkey..i mean the dood looked all of 60...

[body88]

MMA rules? He'd probably lose but I don't know. Hughes might be too small for Kimbo. Put him with any decent 205 guy that walks around near 220-230 and he wouldn't stand a chance.  Depends on how well his training at ATT has been going, though. He would be annihilated under PRIDE rules. He might stand a chance in the UFC if he can get a guy up against the fence and launches some elbows. I doubt it, however.

For 10,000 regardless of winning or losing I'd fight him. Worst thing is you get knocked out in a couple seconds and come out with $10k. 

What are the rules for pride. How is it different? Sorry. I know nothing about ufc. My buddy does it.  Well, everyone does it now.

[sandycoosworth]

10,000 purse, winner takes all and the chance to become a internet legend if you win. any takers?

for 10000 and with submission allowed sure

[Fury]

What are the rules for pride. How is it different? Sorry. I know nothing about ufc. My buddy does it.  Well, everyone does it now.

Basically, in the UFC, you aren't allowed to kick, stomp, or knee a downed opponent. You're also not allowed to spike an opponent on their head. In PRIDE, all of this is legal and the fighters more than make use of these tactics, especially the Brazilians with the stomps. In the UFC, you're only allowed to punch or elbow an opponent on the ground. PRIDE doesn't allowed elbows to the head because they tend to not do a lot of damage but they open cuts that bleed badly. If Kimbo was fighting someone in PRIDE, I would expect him to be on the ground fast and getting soccer kicked or stomped to the face. With no ground game, I could see him taking massive knees to the head from a north-south position or side mount. He might stand more of a chance in the UFC because he could just bully his way through a fight by using the cage to push someone up against and put his decent boxing skills to work. He's been throwing elbows in his more recent fights because he's been training with ATT. This is all just speculation, though.

[sandycoosworth]

youre close, but:

- pride does not allow spiking

- ufc doesnt allow kicks, knees or stomps to the head on the ground, the body is fine

- pride doesnt allow certain knees to the top of the head on the ground (ask igor ) ... though they seem to change this rule from fight to fight

the biggest difference is the issuance of yellow cards in pride, which force the fighters to put on a more exciting fight or lose 10% of their payday! they are issued for holding too much on the ground, holding the ropes, inactivity,  repeated fouling etc...

in the ufc the fights progress more naturally(occasionally they stand them up but they dont take away their money) and are far more likely to be boring "lay and prays" (where a wreslter humps someone for 15 minutes) whereas in pride this would result in a yellowcard

basicallly, in japan they are concerned with putting forth the most exciting fights with the toughest(and by that i mean actual toughness or "bushido" during a fight; heart) fighters, and how you win is more important than winning itself .... wheres in the us its just about winning, and fairness

japan also has no drug policy (not that the ufc guys arent taking the exact same shti, but it speaks to the emphasis on putting forward the best product possible instead of having the most "fair")

[Fury]

youre close, but:

- pride does not allow spiking

- ufc doesnt allow kicks, knees or stomps to the head on the ground, the body is fine

- pride doesnt allow certain knees to the head on the ground (ask igor ) ... though they seem to change this rule from fight to fight

the biggest difference is the issuance of yellow cards in pride, which force the fighters to put on a more exciting fight or lose 10% of their payday! they are issued for holding too much on the ground, holding the ropes, inactivity,  repeated fouling etc...

in the ufc the fights progress more naturally(occasionally they stand them up but they dont take away their money) and are far more likely to be boring "lay and prays" (where a wreslter humps someone for 15 minutes) whereas in pride this would result in a yellowcard

basicallly, in japan they are concerned with putting forth the most exciting fights with the toughest(and by that i mean actual toughness or "bushido" during a fight; heart) fighters, and how you win is more important than winning itself .... wheres in the us its just about winning, and fairness

japan also has no drug policy (not that the ufc guys arent taking the exact same shti, but it speaks to the emphasis on putting forward the best product possible instead of having the most "fair")

PRIDE allows spiking to the head. Check the rules, there is nothing against it. Have you not seen the Sapp-Big Nog fight? He was pile driven on his head. Fedor was spiked on his head by Randleman. Also, when I'm talking about knees, kicks on the ground, I was talking about the head. It's usually common sense that the body shots are a given. PRIDE doesn't really stop knees on the ground unless they're going to the back of the head or when an opponent falls face down on the mat, which generally means they've been knocked the f**k out anyway.

You're an idiot if you say the fights progress more naturally in the UFC. Lately all they do is stand the fighters up as soon as they hit the ground because the redneck piece of shit fans don't understand anything about the ground game and guard work. Pride lets Arona lay and pray his way to victory almost every fight.

The fighters in the UFC are probably juiced anyway. More and more have been testing positive as of late.

[Earl1972]

My buddy does it.  Well, everyone does it now.

haha ain't that the truth

five years ago these same clowns wanted to be the next Stone Cold Steve Austin but since wrestling is no longer cool they want to be the next chuck liddell

E

[Fury]

haha ain't that the truth

five years ago these same clowns wanted to be the next Stone Cold Steve Austin but since wrestling is no longer cool they want to be the next chuck liddell

E

Yeah, it's getting kind of annoying seeing every clown talk about it when they know jack shit about anything actually resembling the sport, only what they've seen on Spike. Guess it's to be expected with the sport growing like it is.

I wasn't directing this post at you either, Earl.

[sandycoosworth]

PRIDE allows spiking to the head. Check the rules, there is nothing against it. Have you not seen the Sapp-Big Nog fight? He was pile driven on his head. Fedor was spiked on his head by Randleman. Also, when I'm talking about knees, kicks on the ground, I was talking about the head. It's usually common sense that the body shots are a given. PRIDE doesn't really stop knees on the ground unless they're going to the back of the head or when an opponent falls face down on the mat, which generally means they've been knocked the f**k out anyway.

You're an idiot if you say the fights progress more naturally in the UFC. Lately all they do is stand the fighters up as soon as they hit the ground because the redneck piece of shit fans don't understand anything about the ground game and guard work. Pride lets Arona lay and pray his way to victory almost every fight.

The fighters in the UFC are probably juiced anyway. More and more have been testing positive as of late.

i thought mauro mentioned they had changed the spiking rule after the fedor fight but its not on their website so im probably wrong (maybe it was the vegas show i was watching with neutered rules)

"Also, when I'm talking about knees, kicks on the ground, I was talking about the head. It's usually common sense that the body shots are a given. "
you might have ment to say you were a cock sucking homo too ... but what came out was:
"In the UFC, you're only allowed to punch or elbow an opponent on the ground."

the knees to the head rule its sketchy, they say you cant hit the occipital region, but you can hit the sides of the head and ears, implying the top of the head is cool ... but they stopped igor and warned someone else recently  for hitting the top... i guess in the heat of the moment its hard to tell

as for the lay and pray and arona's special tretment ... he got stood up against wandy in their last fight and he lost the belt on account of it. while we are talking about fight progresssion, how often do they move fighters from the cage vs repositioned them from the ropes ... that makes a night and day difference in a fight

[Hugo Chavez]

What an insult to Matt Hughes to even bring his name into this thread   Even as a smaller guy, Kimbo's guys would be crying foul as Matt chokes him out from behind.  What would happen is Kimbo would punch himself out and probably land very little against a skilled fighter and when he's gasping for air, matt would have him regardless of size.  Kimbo wouldn't last with Gracie, no fucking way in the world, he's not going to beat Matt either.  All Kimbo does is swing wild against people who think they can fight but haven't actually done anything outside of the occational drunken bar fight.  Kimbo is a scam.

[Fury]

i thought mauro mentioned they had changed the spiking rule after the fedor fight but its not on their website so im probably wrong (maybe it was the vegas show i was watching with neutered rules)

"Also, when I'm talking about knees, kicks on the ground, I was talking about the head. It's usually common sense that the body shots are a given. "
you might have ment to say you were a cock sucking homo too ... but what came out was:
"In the UFC, you're only allowed to punch or elbow an opponent on the ground."

the knees to the head rule its sketchy, they say you cant hit the occipital region, but you can hit the sides of the head and ears, implying the top of the head is cool ... but they stopped igor and warned someone else recently  for hitting the top... i guess in the heat of the moment its hard to tell

as for the lay and pray and arona's special tretment ... he got stood up against wandy in their last fight and he lost the belt on account of it. while we are talking about fight progresssion, how often do they move fighters from the cage vs repositioned them from the ropes ... that makes a night and day difference in a fight

It doesn't make a night and day difference, the fighters are used to it and expect it when they start rolling around near the edge of the ring. Arona didn't lose the belt because he got stood up. He lost it because they don't want someone who lay'n'prays his way to victory as champion, it wouldn't be good for entertainment. You don't see many knees to the side on the ground in the UFC because they're too busy working guard. Just as you don't see too many elbow barrages in PRIDE.

I'm pretty sure the only cocksucking homo is the fag who melts down whenever Flower insults him.

[Karl Kox]

I just watched Rocky and I am all fired up !!!!!!

I would so kick his ass right now.

[americanbulldog]

Supposedly Iceberg, Kimbo's manager is trying to set up a fight with Paul Buentello and Kimbo.  If this occurs, expect a quick KO by "Don't fear me, fear the consequences."  Pride has better fighters, better fights.  I like the cage, and the use of elbows, though.  NSAC and CSAC are the ones who will dictate rules for fights in those states.  In Hawaii, you can kick a downed opponent in championship fights.  (See Mayhem/Trigg).  Not having drug tests is popular with fighters, particularly if you provide a sample from a cadaver or dog. 

[Fury]

I'm a bigger fan of the ring myself. The cage gets in the way too much and outside of moving the fight to the middle, the ring is fine. You don't get people using the ropes for leverage ala some of the UFC fighters. It's all preference, I'm a PRIDE guy so. 

[americanbulldog]

Pride fighters in the cage with hybrid rules would be my choice.  Definite DSE fan boy, just hate the time delays on PPVs. 

[sandycoosworth]

It doesn't make a night and day difference, the fighters are used to it and expect it when they start rolling around near the edge of the ring.

for someone who knocks UFC fans for not appreciating the ground game you sure have no idea about its finer points: you get too close to the ropes and you will be put back in the middle of the ring thereby giving the guy on the bottom escape options 360deg around him; you get pressed against the cage and suddenly your escape options are down to 180 degrees (tito, randy, lindland are just a few of the people who made careers out of pinning an opponent to the cage) ... youll have to take my word for it that this is a "big deal"

Arona didn't lose the belt because he got stood up. He lost it because they don't want someone who lay'n'prays his way to victory as champion, it wouldn't be good for entertainment.

Let me get this straight, Arona didnt lose because he was stood up for his lay and pray, but he lost because of his lay and pray ... f**k youre stupid

You don't see many knees to the side on the ground in the UFC because they're too busy working guard. Just as you don't see too many elbow barrages in PRIDE.

Its impossible to see knees to the side from guard (do you know what guard means?) ... but from side mount you see them all the time...

You dont see many elbows in pride because they are not allowed to the head and its usually more damaging to punsh the body because of the distancing involved with elbowing

[Diesel1]

I'd uppercut Kimbo into the middle of next week

[xpac2]

for someone who knocks UFC fans for not appreciating the ground game you sure have no idea about its finer points: you get too close to the ropes and you will be put back in the middle of the ring thereby giving the guy on the bottom escape options 360deg around him; you get pressed against the cage and suddenly your escape options are down to 180 degrees (tito, randy, lindland are just a few of the people who made careers out of pinning an opponent to the cage) ... youll have to take my word for it that this is a "big deal"

Let me get this straight, Arona didnt lose because he was stood up for his lay and pray, but he lost because of his lay and pray ... f**k youre stupid

Its impossible to see knees to the side from guard (do you know what guard means?) ... but from side mount you see them all the time...

You dont see many elbows in pride because they are not allowed to the head and its usually more damaging to punsh the body because of the distancing involved with elbowing

OWNED!

[sandycoosworth]

i love these newbs who watch a season of TUFF and are ready to take on the world

[Scimowser]

i would fight him if it was an all in fight, but i would have doubts if it was a fist fight with his posse of twats around. All in i wouldnt bother, take him down and smash him up or break his arm. Reminiscent of the way Butterbean just had his arse handed to him