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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2006, 11:11:09 AM »
Hughes would beat that ape unconsious in 30 seconds.  Has anyone seen the vid of that fat cop smoking Kimbo's ass? 

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2006, 11:13:47 AM »
It was posted in another thread. Gannon is his last name. He is a Boston cop  ;D
I would like to see hughes fight this guy. Hughes is a little monster. I know he got his ass kicked by that Canadian dude (yikes) but I still think he is a beast.

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2006, 12:00:42 PM »
GSP is a fucking beast. The guy is incredible. Only 25 if I'm not mistaken, also.

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2006, 12:45:59 PM »
GSP is a fucking beast. The guy is incredible. Only 25 if I'm not mistaken, also.


When I saw him I thought there was no way he could beat Hughes. I only know Hughes from the few ufc fights I have watched. But, he kicked his ass. I think this could also be a wake up call for Hughes. They said he did not train for fights until fairly recently?

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2006, 12:48:48 PM »
hughes has zero striking because hes too big, he should be competing in the 155 .... GSP is a very big framed man for 170 and hes a complete fighter ... i doubt youll see him lose any time soon in the ufc

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2006, 12:50:29 PM »
I know shit about ufc. So I will take your word for it. How much does gsb weigh?

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2006, 12:52:25 PM »
he fights at 170 and walks around at 190 or so ... oddly enough, im 2 inches taller,  5lbs lighter, fatter, but my friend who trained with him said im significantly bigger ;D

you should take some time and check out Pride, youd enjoy it alot more than ufc ;)

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2006, 12:56:04 PM »
he fights at 170 and walks around at 190 or so ... oddly enough, im 2 inches taller,  5lbs lighter, fatter, but my friend who trained with him said im significantly bigger ;D

you should take some time and check out Pride, youd enjoy it alot more than ufc ;)


I am reading some mma shit right now. Who is the greatest fighters from either organization?

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2006, 01:07:50 PM »
in UFC id say liddell, GSP, and possibly vera ... those guys seem to all have well rounded games

in pride, fedor, barnett, gomi, kang ... man theres too many to mention

http://www.nokaut.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=10

you can get ANY mma video you want here, check it out ;)

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2006, 01:16:01 PM »
Thanks.... Checking out some vids now.

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2006, 01:18:41 PM »
thank link came straight from Diesel1 ... he is the undisputed KING of tracking down links and we should all line up and toss his salad for it!

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #36 on: December 21, 2006, 01:21:37 PM »
hughes has zero striking because hes too big, he should be competing in the 155 .... GSP is a very big framed man for 170 and hes a complete fighter ... i doubt youll see him lose any time soon in the ufc

No way in hell Hughes can cut to 155.  He walks at 190 and is very,very lean.  (I have rolled with him at a seminar)  He is incredibly strong, and has tremendous pressure from half guard/side control/mount.  His striking has nothing to do with his size, but more to do with the time spent striking.  He started his striking training with Pat, he was a wrestler through and through,  he only has about 10 years experience in striking, whereas GSP started in a striking based art and is better suited to stand and bang. 

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2006, 01:25:04 PM »
No way in hell Hughes can cut to 155.  He walks at 190 and is very,very lean.  (I have rolled with him at a seminar)  He is incredibly strong, and has tremendous pressure from half guard/side control/mount.  His striking has nothing to do with his size, but more to do with the time spent striking.  He started his striking training with Pat, he was a wrestler through and through,  he only has about 10 years experience in striking, whereas GSP started in a striking based art and is better suited to stand and bang. 

hughes 10+ years striking is probably more experience than GSP has ... and striking has everything to do with size as being overly muscled slows you down and makes it harder to relax (which is how you generate power)

smarten up >:(

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2006, 01:58:55 PM »
hughes 10+ years striking is probably more experience than GSP has ... and striking has everything to do with size as being overly muscled slows you down and makes it harder to relax (which is how you generate power)

smarten up >:(


Matts ability to strike with GSP has nothing to do with his size.  He has BEEN a wrestler his entire life, he will default back to his strengths, which is takedown and ground and pound.  No amount of training standup will nullify years of habbits created.  Royce Gracie, a ground fighter has been training stand up for the last 14 years, it STILL is not up to the level of Matt Hughes.  Is this because of his incredible size?  Hughes was outstriking Royce relatively easy.  I think not.  Maybe you should get into the gym and spar, see how you will react.  No matter how many years of Muay Thai I do, I always revert back to what I know, which is to drop and shoot and take a leg/legs for a single, double, ankle pick, etc.  His musclulature can inhibit his ability to strike, but it is not the main thing that allowed GSP to dominate him.  Matt's "riddum" was disrupted, and GSP was beating him to the punch, kick.  He also set him up perfectly with the inside cut kick/jab.  Then when they clinched, GSP secured underhooks and actually pushed Matt off of the fence with relative ease.  (Which has never been done)  The one thing Matt normally dominates, scrambles, GSP was able to beat him here as well.  In the first fight GSP was beating Matt at standup, and in a scramble off of a shoot, Matt was able to nail the far side armbar. 

Before telling people to smarten up, maybe get into the gym and get some fight time with some fighters before you base your opinion.  Doing two smokers a year teaches me I don't want to stand and trade.

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2006, 02:16:48 PM »
hughes 10+ years striking is probably more experience than GSP has ... and striking has everything to do with size as being overly muscled slows you down and makes it harder to relax (which is how you generate power)

smarten up >:(

Hughes isn't over muscled you fucking clown. Body88, don't listen to anything this retard says, he doesn't even know that you're allowed to spike people on their head in Pride. He's a nuthugging MMA fan that thinks he knows what he's talking about. As AmericanBulldog says, Hughes is a wrestler first and a striker second, that's why he couldn't compete with GSP on their feet.

You're a fucking clown, plain and simple. Go back to jerking off to TUF reruns and let the guys who know what they're talking about handle this.

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2006, 02:20:07 PM »
neither of you has any clue what youre talking about

hope this helps :)

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2006, 02:22:12 PM »
neither of you has any clue what youre talking about

hope this helps :)

You're a TUF guy that has jumped on the MMA bandwagon who doesn't even know the basic rules of PRIDE and obviously hasn't seen any of the best fighters the organization has ever had. AmericanBulldog has something like 14+ years of grappling and striking experience if I'm not mistaken, so you're really digging yourself into a hole here. You're a clown.

Hope this helps.

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2006, 02:32:24 PM »
neither of you has any clue what youre talking about

hope this helps :)

So I guess intellectual debate is out of the question. 

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #43 on: December 21, 2006, 02:34:55 PM »
So I guess intellectual debate is out of the question. 

It's not even worth arguing with this clown. He knows nothing.

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #44 on: December 21, 2006, 02:43:31 PM »
It's not even worth arguing with this clown. He knows nothing.

Ignore berzerkfury everyone, this tiny tit has been owned to shreds in this thread and now he is having a meltdown.

Seems like a repeat occurrence for this intellectual giant

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #45 on: December 21, 2006, 02:45:59 PM »
Ignore berzerkfury everyone, this tiny tit has been owned to shreds in this thread and now he is having a meltdown.

Seems like a repeat occurrence for this intellectual giant

Chalk up another one of my nuthuggers who has decided to follow me across Getbig. Xpac, weren't you run off the V last week?

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #46 on: December 21, 2006, 02:46:31 PM »
You're a TUF guy that has jumped on the MMA bandwagon who doesn't even know the basic rules of PRIDE and obviously hasn't seen any of the best fighters the organization has ever had. AmericanBulldog has something like 14+ years of grappling and striking experience if I'm not mistaken, so you're really digging yourself into a hole here. You're a clown.

Hope this helps.

Man I am feeling old thinking about the time I have spent.  Unfortunately it is longer than 14+ and I am still a four stripe blue........

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2006, 02:48:56 PM »
Chalk up another one of my nuthuggers who has decided to follow me across Getbig. Xpac, weren't you run off the V last week?

I run the V board. I let you tiny tits post once in a while.

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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2006, 03:10:11 PM »
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You're a TUF guy that has jumped on the MMA bandwagon who doesn't even know the basic rules of PRIDE and obviously hasn't seen any of the best fighters the organization has ever had. AmericanBulldog has something like 14+ years of grappling and striking experience if I'm not mistaken, so you're really digging yourself into a hole here. You're a clown.

Hope this helps.

i was talking about mma on here years before tuff came out so that theory is shot to shit, and i pwned the fuck out of you regarding arona and teh natural progression of fights in pride v ufc so you really shouldnt speak to me, seriously

as for bulldog, i didnt read his last post because its long, but if hes been training striking for 14 years id expect him to know that being overly muscled kills you on a speed, endurance and rom level in terms of striking. now weather or not matt hughes has that size(and type) of musculature is a matter of opinion, but what is apparent is hughes does not bang well and by that i mean he doesnt seem to have a good concept of relaxing his shoulders, sitting on his punches, throwing solid combos, kicking, distance/footwork, throwing from the hip ... he throws like more like a tense weight lifter than a striker .. to be fair, this is true for 90% of the mma world .. if you dont believe me watch a ufc with anyone whose done muaythai or boxing and ask them what they think of studs like leben and franklin(not to say they are overmuscled, but they dont understand striking very well and were considered to be striking gods by TUF fools like you)

granted you cannot throw in maa the same as in a pure kickboxing bout because youll get taken down right away, but you can still differieniate the overly muscled guys(coleman, hughes, monson, shrek, kerr etc) from the boys who are much more wirey but bang much harder (gomi, fedor, crocop, liddell, vera) on the basic way they throw: from the shoulder(former) and the hip(later) ... conversly, when you come into mma from a striking background you need to train your muscles differently for a different type of balance and footwork, some people adjusted very well (crocop, hunt) and some didnt(schilt, leko)


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Re: So would you fight Kimbo?
« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2006, 03:17:07 PM »
i was talking about mma on here years before tuff came out so that theory is shot to shit, and i pwned the f**k out of you regarding arona and teh natural progression of fights in pride v ufc so you really shouldnt speak to me, seriously

as for bulldog, i didnt read his last post because its long, but if hes been training striking for 14 years id expect him to know that being overly muscled kills you on a speed, endurance and rom level in terms of striking. now weather or not matt hughes has that size(and type) of musculature is a matter of opinion, but what is apparent is hughes does not bang well and by that i mean he doesnt seem to have a good concept of relaxing his shoulders, sitting on his punches, throwing solid combos, kicking, distance/footwork, throwing from the hip ... he throws like more like a tense weight lifter than a striker .. to be fair, this is true for 90% of the mma world .. if you dont believe me watch a ufc with anyone whose done muaythai or boxing and ask them what they think of studs like leben and franklin(not to say they are overmuscled, but they dont understand striking very well and were considered to be striking gods by TUF fools like you)

granted you cannot throw in maa the same as in a pure kickboxing bout because youll get taken down right away, but you can still differieniate the overly muscled guys(coleman, hughes, monson, shrek, kerr etc) from the boys who are much more wirey but bang much harder (gomi, fedor, crocop, liddell, vera) on the basic way they throw: from the shoulder(former) and the hip(later) ... conversly, when you come into mma from a striking background you need to train your muscles differently for a different type of balance and footwork, some people adjusted very well (crocop, hunt) and some didnt(schilt, leko)



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