When we landed on the moon Ground control and the austronauts talked

[ToxicAvenger]

This was the BIGGEST feat of a generation, .

hell..we STILL dont have the technology to match it!

[DK II]

some folks in germany saw the live feed..

i wont post any more vids..but the folks that saw the live feed saw a coke bottle get kicked out of the way..

 

sure.

[ToxicAvenger]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1138935117048624484&q=moon+landing

no blast crater under the LEM 

if ya dont wanna watch the whole thing...watch min 14 thru min 17

[ToxicAvenger]

sure.

i'll find it..you dont actually see it..some ole germand lady is talking about it..

[240 is Back]

Of course we were told we were watching it live -- it added to the excitment.  But if you do a search, you will the find the consensus among authorities is that the actual audio recording had a noticable delay, but the "live" broadcast and subsequent documentary material edited that out and cleaned up some of the audio for clarity's sake.  This was the BIGGEST feat of a generation, so it is very understandable that the media and the government wanted to present a polished piece to the nation and the world.

Hard to lend credibility.  We were lied to about it being live?  We now know the truth because of a "consensus among authorities"? 

Lots of games there.  Hard to 100% believe everything they say when you explain it in such a fishy way.

[Jeff Miller]

Hard to lend credibility.  We were lied to about it being live?  We now know the truth because of a "consensus among authorities"? 

Lots of games there.  Hard to 100% believe everything they say when you explain it in such a fishy way.

Then don't believe it.  Doesn't matter to me, really.  I just find it fascinating that everyone on this thread is applying Occam's Razor so well.  Because you saw video where there was no delay, is the simpler explanation that the whole thing was faked, or that the content you saw was edited for clarity?

Every "live" event today is on a time delay so that censors can clean up a feed.  Why not in 1969?

[ToxicAvenger]

Then don't believe it.  Doesn't matter to me, really.  I just find it fascinating that everyone on this thread is applying Occam's Razor so well.  Because you saw video where there was no delay, is the simpler explanation that the whole thing was faked, or that the content you saw was edited for clarity?

Every "live" event today is on a time delay so that censors can clean up a feed.  Why not in 1969?

Occums razior..the eternal escape goat..

anyhow..

i'm just saying somethings fishy...

[Jeff Miller]

Occums razior..the eternal escape goat..

anyhow..

i'm just saying somethings fishy...

Um........yea.  Not really using the Razor as an "escape goat", but more a proof. 

But believe what you want.

[240 is Back]

Then don't believe it.  Doesn't matter to me, really.  I just find it fascinating that everyone on this thread is applying Occam's Razor so well.  Because you saw video where there was no delay, is the simpler explanation that the whole thing was faked, or that the content you saw was edited for clarity?

Every "live" event today is on a time delay so that censors can clean up a feed.  Why not in 1969?

When they admit a small lie, as you say they have, to counter an airtight scientific argument disproving it, it smells funny.

What if it was proven that radiation on the moon would kill a man despite those incredibly sturdy spacesuits?

Would they suddenly admit the moonwalk was faked, but they DID land there and hang out in the spacecraft?




When parties continually adjust their version of events in order to counter new evidence/arguments, it ruins all of their credibility.  (Like that duke rape accuser, changing her story to match newly released info)

[ToxicAvenger]

Um........yea.  Not really using the Razor as an "escape goat", but more a proof. 

But believe what you want.

do you believe in the never ever ever seen mythical beast that controls the universe...i mean friggin controls the universe..

god?

where is your occums razor then eh?

[Jeff Miller]

do you believe in the never ever ever seen mythical beast that controls the universe...i mean friggin controls the universe..

god?

where is your occums razor then eh?

So let me see if I am following you -- If I say I believe in God, then my ability to rationally argue a point is shot.  Is that about right?  If Occum's Razor can't prove to you that God exists, then it doesn't apply to anything, right?  Something like that?

Just trying to keep up.

[ToxicAvenger]

So let me see if I am following you -- If I say I believe in God, then my ability to rationally argue a point is shot.  Is that about right?  If Occum's Razor can't prove to you that God exists, then it doesn't apply to anything, right?  Something like that?

Just trying to keep up.

religious folks usually dont like it when the tables r turned 

[Jeff Miller]

religious folks usually dont like it when the tables r turned 

Not taking offense, just trying to follow the logic.

And it should be noted that you aren't doing anything to press the other side of the argument, but instead are resorting to attacks on credibility.

You wouldn't be in politics, would you?

[ToxicAvenger]

Not taking offense, just trying to follow the logic.

And it should be noted that you aren't doing anything to press the other side of the argument, but instead are resorting to attacks on credibility.

You wouldn't be in politics, would you?

lol i'm just fucking with ya mang..i do recommend that ya go watch the vi i posted on the politics board

"secret space"

i'd like to hear your opinion on it..on that thread..

right now u r giving me opinions based on your understanding BEFORE you see the evidence i provide..

[Jeff Miller]

lol i'm just fucking with ya mang..i do recommend that ya go watch the vi i posted on the politics board

"secret space"

i'd like to hear your opinion on it..on that thread..

right now u r giving me opinions based on your understanding BEFORE you see the evidence i provide..

I refuse to hear anything else you have to say.

And I want everyone here to know that ToxicAvenger kicks puppies and pees on toilet seats.

 

[ToxicAvenger]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6692952930996256219&q=ufo+the+greatest+story+ever+denied

here it is..

[Jeff Miller]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6692952930996256219&q=ufo+the+greatest+story+ever+denied

here it is..

Link isn't working   

[ToxicAvenger]

Link isn't working   

its working for me  mang...try opening it fropm explorer..but before ya open it..

go to tools" and "internet options" and then "del files"

should work then

[ToxicAvenger]

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=nasa+ufo

is that does not work..watch part 1 and 2 of evidence..in your spare time...

it'll certainly make ya think since all the footage is NASA shuttle camera footage

[Jeff Miller]

Keeps saying it can't find the server.  Of course, it could just be this Iraqi connection.

[ToxicAvenger]

Keeps saying it can't find the server.  Of course, it could just be this Iraqi connection.

u r in Iraq..well no shit mang!

how about this

[ToxicAvenger]

oo and remember..meteors only glow when they hit the earth atmpsphere..due to friction..

[ToxicAvenger]

oo also..most of these objects can only be seen by the UV cameras..

not visible in 'visible light' or infra red..

[Jeff Miller]

u r in Iraq..well no shit mang!

how about this

Same thing.  Well, I hope I get to check it out sometime.  Sounds interesting.  In the meantime, I will maintain my position, but I'm tiring of the argument.

[ToxicAvenger]

Same thing.  Well, I hope I get to check it out sometime.  Sounds interesting.  In the meantime, I will maintain my position, but I'm tiring of the argument.

track down your wide area network guy and beat him upside the head...


the bastard has that shit blocked on your border router.....


ask him to unblock your particular IP...