Author Topic: Parallel universes (Read 3214 times)

freespirit · « **on:** December 29, 2006, 01:51:30 AM »

What about shamanism. Is it when they use these certain kinds of hallucinating drugs, that they actually enter a different "spiritual" world, maybe a parallel universe?

All over the world you can find ancient paintings in caves, which describes beings that are half man half animal. Look at the ancient Egypt's, with their Gods, also often half man half animal, or the myth of the Minotaur who was described as a man with the head of a bull. There are all over the world lot's of examples to find in the history of civilisation.

It all didn't came out of the blue. About 200.000 years ago men where just like the "modern" men, with the same brain capacity, nerve system and all. But about 40.000 years ago they developed a sense of awareness, that made them believe in a spiritual world.

Don't have much time now, but hopefully this will bring an interesting discussion.

(Sorry for my English, it's very basic)

Jeff Miller · « **Reply #1 on:** December 29, 2006, 08:30:32 AM »

Approximateey 40000 years ago, man discovered peyote.

Necrosis · « **Reply #2 on:** December 29, 2006, 09:00:31 AM »

what is the question. are you asking if parrelel universes can or do exist. im not sure what your getting at. half man minotaurs are could exist in parrelel universes. ask a more specific question if you can. according to string theory, M-theory. GUT and a klienze theory alterante dimensions and universe exist. i would have alot to add to this topic but id probably sidetrack it from your original intention.

ToxicAvenger · « **Reply #3 on:** December 29, 2006, 11:36:52 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

watch part 1 and 2 of "the elegant universe"

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=elegant%20universe&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv

OzmO · « **Reply #4 on:** December 29, 2006, 11:42:24 AM »

anything outside the teachings of the bible concerning spritualism is demonic. (according to most fundemental christians)

Necrosis · « **Reply #5 on:** December 30, 2006, 07:36:31 AM »

why the fuck would there be a devil. why would god create the devil?

beatmaster · « **Reply #6 on:** January 14, 2007, 12:27:24 PM »

Quote from: usmokepole on December 30, 2006, 07:36:31 AM

why the f**k would there be a devil. why would god create the devil?

well all of this was a urban legend in the old days made by the church, if you don't do this or that you'll go to hell..... bs, everything was made up, since the beginning, god, jesus, devil.

a big story, wrote a long time ago, turn into, well............. what it is today!!!

Wombat · « **Reply #7 on:** January 16, 2007, 10:16:38 PM »

Quote from: usmokepole on December 30, 2006, 07:36:31 AM

why the f**k would there be a devil. why would god create the devil?

maybe he needed to create the exact opposite of himself so we would all understand just how magnificiet he is...

Jeff Miller · « **Reply #8 on:** January 17, 2007, 01:45:23 AM »

Quote from: usmokepole on December 30, 2006, 07:36:31 AM

why the f**k would there be a devil. why would god create the devil?

God created Lucifer, Hismost favored of creations (up to that point). He was beautiful, but prideful. He led the rebellion in Heaven wth a third of the heavely host at his side, and they lost. Lucifer fell. God din;t create the devil. He created Lucifer, a being of light and beauty, who chose his own path.

Lord Humungous · « **Reply #9 on:** January 17, 2007, 05:58:57 AM »

Quote from: Jeff Miller on January 17, 2007, 01:45:23 AM

God created Lucifer, Hismost favored of creations (up to that point). He was beautiful, but prideful. He led the rebellion in Heaven wth a third of the heavely host at his side, and they lost. Lucifer fell. God din;t create the devil. He created Lucifer, a being of light and beauty, who chose his own path.

Great explanation Jeff.

Pole, this is know as the Pre-Angelic conflict. If your a christian this in some ways is our purpose in life- to be witness to either the good or evil in man.

GroinkTropin · « **Reply #10 on:** January 17, 2007, 10:15:51 AM »

Quote from: Jeff Miller on January 17, 2007, 01:45:23 AM

God created Lucifer, Hismost favored of creations (up to that point). He was beautiful, but prideful. He led the rebellion in Heaven wth a third of the heavely host at his side, and they lost. Lucifer fell. God din;t create the devil. He created Lucifer, a being of light and beauty, who chose his own path.

Yes but you have to also take into consideration "pre-destiny", and I think according to that theory, God created lucifer knowing he would do what he did, thus creating God's counter part, his nemesis, if you will, in a sense. Satan needs to exist, like heaven does.

Camel Jockey · « **Reply #11 on:** January 17, 2007, 01:47:13 PM »

I'm gonna order some shroom spores soon and then I'll be in another world for about 5 hours or so.

Wombat · « **Reply #12 on:** January 17, 2007, 07:53:13 PM »

Quote from: Methyl Mike on January 17, 2007, 10:15:51 AM

Yes but you have to also take into consideration "pre-destiny", and I think according to that theory, God created lucifer knowing he would do what he did, thus creating God's counter part, his nemesis, if you will, in a sense. Satan needs to exist, like heaven does.

yes --nobody could possibly understand good if they never knew bad existed...

Jeff Miller · « **Reply #13 on:** January 18, 2007, 01:42:03 AM »

Quote from: Methyl Mike on January 17, 2007, 10:15:51 AM

Yes but you have to also take into consideration "pre-destiny", and I think according to that theory, God created lucifer knowing he would do what he did, thus creating God's counter part, his nemesis, if you will, in a sense. Satan needs to exist, like heaven does.

Most scholars agree that Lucifer had free will.

Wikipedia actually has a pretty good entry about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_angel

GroinkTropin · « **Reply #14 on:** January 18, 2007, 04:11:00 AM »

Quote from: Jeff Miller on January 18, 2007, 01:42:03 AM

Most scholars agree that Lucifer had free will.

Wikipedia actually has a pretty good entry about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_angel

That is a pretty good link. I'm sure lucifer had free will, it's just that God is all knowing, so He must have created lucifer knowing what he would do, right?

RUDE BUOY · « **Reply #15 on:** January 22, 2007, 01:13:57 AM »

Quote from: Methyl Mike on January 18, 2007, 04:11:00 AM

That is a pretty good link. I'm sure lucifer had free will, it's just that God is all knowing, so He must have created lucifer knowing what he would do, right?

god created all with the ability to chose their own path it is said we are gods children but it is up to us to find him

Bigger Business · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2007, 05:07:29 AM »

Why do people have to believe there is all this bullshit going on? This worlds in enough of a fucked up state to worry about heaven and devils and shit

Jeff Miller · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2007, 05:51:18 AM »

Quote from: Bigger Business on January 23, 2007, 05:07:29 AM

Why do people have to believe there is all this bullshit going on? This worlds in enough of a fucked up state to worry about heaven and devils and shit

Dude.......are you drunk? This sounds like a drunk post.

Bigger Business · « **Reply #18 on:** January 23, 2007, 06:57:08 AM »

Quote from: Jeff Miller on January 23, 2007, 05:51:18 AM

Dude.......are you drunk? This sounds like a drunk post.

its a post from the heart

Wombat · « **Reply #19 on:** January 23, 2007, 08:20:23 PM »

Quote from: Bigger Business on January 23, 2007, 05:07:29 AM

Why do people have to believe there is all this bullshit going on? This worlds in enough of a fucked up state to worry about heaven and devils and shit

Maybe thats the problem...What if i another dimension everyone lived in absolute piece...Would that not be a place you would want to know about and/or go to?

Jeff Miller · « **Reply #20 on:** January 24, 2007, 08:17:52 AM »

Quote from: Wombat on January 23, 2007, 08:20:23 PM

Maybe thats the problem...What if i another dimension everyone lived in absolute piece...Would that not be a place you would want to know about and/or go to?

And this sounds like a marijuana post

Bigger Business · « **Reply #21 on:** January 29, 2007, 07:56:57 AM »

Quote from: Jeff Miller on January 24, 2007, 08:17:52 AM

And this sounds like a marijuana post

post post

youandme · « **Reply #22 on:** February 03, 2007, 11:29:08 PM »

Quote from: Wombat on January 23, 2007, 08:20:23 PM

Maybe thats the problem...What if i another dimension everyone lived in absolute piece...Would that not be a place you would want to know about and/or go to?

One time I was talking to this older gentleman who struck me as very wise. Somehow we started talking about life, then about people's dreams, he then told me about multi-universes. the stuff he was talking about was really screwed up, how there are dimensions, and if it were not for angels then we would see the demons and the other terrible worlds.

freespirit · « **Reply #23 on:** February 04, 2007, 03:20:22 AM »

Quote from: youandme on February 03, 2007, 11:29:08 PM

One time I was talking to this older gentleman who struck me as very wise. Somehow we started talking about life, then about people's dreams, he then told me about multi-universes. the stuff he was talking about was really screwed up, how there are dimensions, and if it were not for angels then we would see the demons and the other terrible worlds.

There are more dimensions then what we are able to see with our human eyes. Yet.