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« on: December 31, 2006, 01:18:14 PM »

I began to look into this website thing and it's easier than I thought. For less then 20 bucks a month Canadian you can build a site that is as good as any out there. You can have have your own flash intros, audio and just about anything under the sun. You are only limited to your artistice abilities and imagination.

Look for HurricaneBeef.com in the near future!!!

http://www.canadianwebhosting.com/?gclid=CJbq9fvyvYkCFUbAJAodqVBCVw

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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2006, 01:18:45 PM »

I began to look into this website thing and it's easier than I thought. For less then 20 bucks a month Canadian you can build a site that is as good as any out there. You can have have your own flash intros, audio and just about anything under the sun. You are only limited to your artistice abilities and imagination.

Look for HurricaneBeef.com in the near future!!!

http://www.canadianwebhosting.com/?gclid=CJbq9fvyvYkCFUbAJAodqVBCVw

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I'm thinking about $200 websites Wink

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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2006, 01:19:56 PM »

You are edging in on Rob's business Huh
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2006, 04:47:40 PM »

No, not really. I just find it odd that I was thinking about getting a web site and paying for it when I can do it for next to nothing. I viewed these guys as having a specific body of knowledge and I was taken back to find out they use pre-existing templates and services which anyone could use for a fraction of the price.

There is one package which ( for $36.00 a month ) gives you the ability to have 30 free domain names, a dedicated IP and 100 e-mail accounts. There are also facilities for e-shops, they set you up on Paypal and on and on and on . . .

I should have my first site up and running with in three weeks ( I'll be doing a lot of overtime in the next few weeks ) if anyone likes what I accomplish, just PM me and I'll put one togeather for you for free and leave it up for three months.

No one needs to use any company if they have a few hours and can log on to a computer.

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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2006, 07:53:06 PM »

Jaret . . . Roll Eyes

I have  a wager for ya . . . I'll produce a site as good as anything you have on the web in 6 weeks and I'll put a grand ( USD ) on it.

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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2007, 02:13:56 AM »

 Shocked  uh-oh... Hurricane, I would never have made that bet because I've seen Dean's work.
{gulp} I hope you're flush, ...cause I suspect you'll be forking out a grand to him real soon.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2007, 04:28:23 AM »

Dean?Huh

I based my statement on what I've seen of Garreth's work, for example  his Mustafa site . . . that can be done by ANYONE! The types of sites that are being made for $300 are being made using the same process available at the link I had given. Keep in mind that is one of a hundred sites each one of which has 1000's of templates all of which can be altered in their colors, formats etc. The possibilities are endless.

http://opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2183

Some people do write code to produce sites, and if they do they are going about it the hard way.

We will see.

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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2007, 11:48:44 AM »

there are some really good ones you can get for under $50.   Very smooth, professional interfaces.  Web design is getting easier and easier, definitely.  And in 2007, microsoft and AOL are both gunning for 240 Wink lol...

Microsoft's Office live and Aol's new personal service will let people build their own pages very easily.  Definitely taking on the fact that there are so many people needing sites.  Will this present a new set of challenges for little guys like me? sure.  but new opportunities too.  2007 is gonna be a year of changes.  The good news is that those programs are still 3-4 years away from allowing the customization required for unique sites. 

15 years ago, you had to go to a specialist to get something you can put together in Publisher in 3 minutes today.  It'll be the same with web design.  As good as dean is, there will eventually be a box program for $49 which can do everything he can do, with a handy wizard Smiley  we are in a field where people are scrambling to make a buck by helping people avoid specialists for tasks.  all we can do is adapt.
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2007, 12:47:53 PM »

The only sites I see of your's are muscle bear sites . . . big hairy guys, morphed pics etc. What else have you done?

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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2007, 12:53:59 PM »

there are some really good ones you can get for under $50.   Very smooth, professional interfaces.  Web design is getting easier and easier, definitely.  And in 2007, microsoft and AOL are both gunning for 240 Wink lol...

Microsoft's Office live and Aol's new personal service will let people build their own pages very easily.  Definitely taking on the fact that there are so many people needing sites.  Will this present a new set of challenges for little guys like me? sure.  but new opportunities too.  2007 is gonna be a year of changes.  The good news is that those programs are still 3-4 years away from allowing the customization required for unique sites. 

15 years ago, you had to go to a specialist to get something you can put together in Publisher in 3 minutes today.  It'll be the same with web design.  As good as dean is, there will eventually be a box program for $49 which can do everything he can do, with a handy wizard Smiley  we are in a field where people are scrambling to make a buck by helping people avoid specialists for tasks.  all we can do is adapt.



It's time to lower the price..  I always thought $240 would be a perfect price for you to charge for a website..
It just makes too much sense..
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2007, 12:58:20 PM »



It's time to lower the price..  I always thought $240 would be a perfect price for you to charge for a website..
It just makes too much sense..


Don't bother . . . I hear it's been taken Wink

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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2007, 03:25:06 PM »

Hey son, there's no mud slinging here . . . those are exactly what I saw. Those sites seem to be for the sole purpose of " Google ads, " how much revenue do they generate anyhow?

I have looked at the sites listed at the bottom of your posts and although they may be technically based ( depending on how you put them together ) they lack, in my opinion artistic vision. I don't want this called off . . . let's set some firm ground rules. I have until the end of Feb, right? If I can't produce a better site I owe you $1000. If I can, you pay me a grand. We can work out the details.

I did not mean to offend you, it's from one of your sites I took the " Pecker Enlarger" banner. They seemed to have a voyeuristic vibe about them. If anyone should have there ass in the air it's me. Every post you chime in on related to a comment I make you  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes to death. I don't give a f**k if you believe what I have to say relative to Mutual Funds or anything else.

Let's make like adults, shall we?

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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2007, 03:37:43 PM »

Good question . . . Give me a week to give you an example of the intro to my site. It will be my offering, I have seen yours.

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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2007, 03:38:46 PM »

You 3 should have a contest who makes the best websites and only the winner can advertise on here. Spam sucks anyway Undecided
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2007, 07:53:06 PM »

will one of you guys hook me up with a site for 100$?
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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2007, 09:00:27 PM »

Good point G... you do customization and you do it well.

I charge local firms $600 for websites.  The $300 at this point only goes to getbiggers and referrals from online.  Just can't find the time to do them for $300 in person. 

And a lot of what I sell is TIME and PEACE OF MIND.  For instance, a client can spend ten minutes picking out colors, fonts, pages, and emailing me pics.  Five days later, I will have the website built.  They tell me what they like/dislike, and 4 days later I have a revised site.  We continue until it's perfect and they launch.  Updates are dirt cheap.

So essentially, they are buying your time back, my experience and creativity, and a website.  Some of my clients have a live site and they have spent maybe 45 minutes TOTAL on the whole project.  I take liberties based upon my experience and understanding of the industry and their goals.  I give them what I would do (the mba who knows the sport and wants to turn a profit for them quickly with a forum or store) and let them change it.  Every site is different (unless they choose a flash template - and they know it's a package they're buying there).

So anyway, I sure as heck don't want in on any contests.  I never claimed to be a graphic artist.  I never claimed to be a programmer.  I'm probably more of a promotions/sales guy, who uses a wesite as a tool to help people reach their goals (whether is be exposure, a small profit quickly and steady rev) or something else.
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2007, 09:34:32 AM »

Ok, sorry Hurricane Beef! but I'm going to have to bow this one out.


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I respect that . . . I still plan on putting a link up here so you can see what can be produced using the resources I linked to and what I believe to be a reasonable site.

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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2007, 09:38:57 AM »

will one of you guys hook me up with a site for 100$?

If things go as planned and by that I mean I can deliver a quality, low cost site ( with minimal time invested ) I will put one together for you. If my costs are nothing ( or next to it ) your's will be as well. Give me a few weeks to get thing going, but Pm me in the mean time with an outline of your needs.

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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2007, 11:11:46 AM »

You guys are funny.  WHo cares what you can do a site for.  If you are in it to make money why in the hell would you charge the least amount you can.  Sure $300 is cheap but exactly how much work and time are you willing to do for that amount.  Why would you make your time worth so little.  I do sites for fun for people but still charge.  It is great extra money.  I do them at night since I don't sleep much.  Every site I have ever done is either for a friend or a friend told someone about me.  I don't do anything fancy, can't do flash but still put together sites that are pretty good and make money for the person, which ultimately is what they want. 

A perfect example of pricing is www.hawaiianoasis.com  This was my friend house.  She wanted a site to showcase it cause it was a bed and breakfast.  She asked me how much I would have done that site for.  I told her a couple grand exactly how it sits.  Well she told me she just paid the guy $30,000.  SHe was selling the place at the time and the guy said he would wait till it sold to get paid.  Well it sold in just a month for $1.7 million and he got paid.  I couldn't believe he would charge that much. 

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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2007, 11:14:18 AM »

You guys are funny.  WHo cares what you can do a site for.  If you are in it to make money why in the hell would you charge the least amount you can.  Sure $300 is cheap but exactly how much work and time are you willing to do for that amount.  Why would you make your time worth so little.  I do sites for fun for people but still charge.  It is great extra money.  I do them at night since I don't sleep much.  Every site I have ever done is either for a friend or a friend told someone about me.  I don't do anything fancy, can't do flash but still put together sites that are pretty good and make money for the person, which ultimately is what they want. 

A perfect example of pricing is www.hawaiianoasis.com  This was my friend house.  She wanted a site to showcase it cause it was a bed and breakfast.  She asked me how much I would have done that site for.  I told her a couple grand exactly how it sits.  Well she told me she just paid the guy $30,000.  SHe was selling the place at the time and the guy said he would wait till it sold to get paid.  Well it sold in just a month for $1.7 million and he got paid.  I couldn't believe he would charge that much. 



Rob should raise his prices!!!! 30 grand for a website? Shocked
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2007, 01:57:46 PM »

Rob should raise his prices!!!! 30 grand for a website? Shocked

My friend has more than $100,000 in this website.  www.frightcatalog.com

He told me this site makes allot more than this a month in sales.  So maybe spending that kind ofmoney was worth it.

I did a website for a non-profit organization that has brought in more than $150,000 in donations in the past year (since 11-05).  I did the site for abuot $2,000.  But allot of maintenance.
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2007, 09:58:17 PM »

These are numbers which I blow my mind. I had not factored in maintenance.

We will see . . .

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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2007, 03:52:33 PM »

240, cut your price in half then double it..
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