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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2007, 09:19:25 AM »
 Very  NICE. Next time powder your head..the glare made it hard to watch the video. :P  jk. I am balding too.

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2007, 09:31:02 AM »
awesome strength bro! just how much juice did you stick yourself with before doing that lift?! u are one strong ass dude!  :o

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2007, 09:39:40 AM »
Nice lift chris
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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2007, 09:42:06 AM »
  How old are you Chris?

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2007, 09:57:18 AM »
you are one bigass strong dude! How much are u weighing these days? I hope to be able to pull 3x bodyweight soon(before spring hopefully)  ;)
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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2007, 10:06:10 AM »
the most impressive thing about the lift is the double overhand grip w/ out straps. i use straps and once i get to 495 the weight slips out of my hands still. you're a strong fucking dude chris.

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2007, 10:21:26 AM »
Great lift!!

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2007, 11:55:30 AM »
Thanks for all of the nice compliments!

I am 36 years old.

I am weighing in the 215-220 lbs range (haven't weighed myself in a while).

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2007, 12:36:41 PM »
Chris,

Not meaning to denigrate your accomplishment, but as someone who has lost training partners to sloppy deadlifting technique... I just gotta question that form.

Videotape yourself from the side and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Most of the force is being transferred directly down your spine and you're literally playing tiddly-winks with your lumbar discs... keep that visual in mind and consider the recovery time for the following injuries:
-pinched disc
-frayed disc
-nerve impingement
-snapped trapezius fibres
-cracked vertebrae

Rounded-back deadlifts are a lot like shallow squats: no one is willing to tighten up their form as it means lowering the weights and building back up (to a lower level) with proper technique.

There are some simple incontravertable rules when it comes to REALLY heavy deadlifting:

-do NOT use a mixed grip (it creates asymmetrical forces across the torso and torque on the already loaded spinal column which induces a shearing/grinding action, it also leads to bicep ruptures/tears). the mixed grip is something espoused only by diehard powerlifters, it's not logical.

-DO use an overhand grip (it prevents injury)

-DO maintain at least a flat back, preferably arched (it's almost impossible to injure an arched back)

-avoid the tendency to point the toes out (ten to two position), parallel/parallelish is better

-avoid using weights in the 3x bodyweight range (just as triple bodyweight benching is only accomplished by means of excessive arching and overly wide grips... triple bodyweight deadlifting is also beyond the muscular capabilities of the body: it's only accomplished through cheating)

-DO use straps if necessary (unlike our primate kin, humans simply do not have sufficient grip strength... it's genetic)



Anyone (any observant person at least) who's been in the irongame for any significant time would be more impressed by 3 solid properly executed reps with 500 lbs than 2 sloppy round-backed reps with 635 lbs (or even 700 lbs for that matter).

Assuming this advice will go unheaded,

The Luke

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2007, 12:38:49 PM »
Chris,

Not meaning to denigrate your accomplishment, but as someone who has lost training partners to sloppy deadlifting technique... I just gotta question that form.

Videotape yourself from the side and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Most of the force is being transferred directly down your spine and you're literally playing tiddly-winks with your lumbar discs... keep that visual in mind and consider the recovery time for the following injuries:
-pinched disc
-frayed disc
-nerve impingement
-snapped trapezius fibres
-cracked vertebrae

Rounded-back deadlifts are a lot like shallow squats: no one is willing to tighten up their form as it means lowering the weights and building back up (to a lower level) with proper technique.

There are some simple incontravertable rules when it comes to REALLY heavy deadlifting:

-do NOT use a mixed grip (it creates asymmetrical forces across the torso and torque on the already loaded spinal column which induces a shearing/grinding action, it also leads to bicep ruptures/tears). the mixed grip is something espoused only by diehard powerlifters, it's not logical.

-DO use an overhand grip (it prevents injury)

-DO maintain at least a flat back, preferably arched (it's almost impossible to injure an arched back)

-avoid the tendency to point the toes out (ten to two position), parallel/parallelish is better

-avoid using weights in the 3x bodyweight range (just as triple bodyweight benching is only accomplished by means of excessive arching and overly wide grips... triple bodyweight deadlifting is also beyond the muscular capabilities of the body: it's only accomplished through cheating)

-DO use straps if necessary (unlike our primate kin, humans simply do not have sufficient grip strength... it's genetic)



Anyone (any observant person at least) who's been in the irongame for any significant time would be more impressed by 3 solid properly executed reps with 500 lbs than 2 sloppy round-backed reps with 635 lbs (or even 700 lbs for that matter).

Assuming this advice will go unheaded,

The Luke
yeah Chris, triple bodyweight deadlifts are beyond the capabilties of the human body. ::)

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2007, 12:50:22 PM »
any video of you performing these perfect rep deadlifts, The Luke??
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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2007, 12:52:26 PM »
Chris,

Not meaning to denigrate your accomplishment, but as someone who has lost training partners to sloppy deadlifting technique... I just gotta question that form.

Videotape yourself from the side and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Most of the force is being transferred directly down your spine and you're literally playing tiddly-winks with your lumbar discs... keep that visual in mind and consider the recovery time for the following injuries:
-pinched disc
-frayed disc
-nerve impingement
-snapped trapezius fibres
-cracked vertebrae

Rounded-back deadlifts are a lot like shallow squats: no one is willing to tighten up their form as it means lowering the weights and building back up (to a lower level) with proper technique.

There are some simple incontravertable rules when it comes to REALLY heavy deadlifting:

-do NOT use a mixed grip (it creates asymmetrical forces across the torso and torque on the already loaded spinal column which induces a shearing/grinding action, it also leads to bicep ruptures/tears). the mixed grip is something espoused only by diehard powerlifters, it's not logical.

-DO use an overhand grip (it prevents injury)

-DO maintain at least a flat back, preferably arched (it's almost impossible to injure an arched back)

-avoid the tendency to point the toes out (ten to two position), parallel/parallelish is better

-avoid using weights in the 3x bodyweight range (just as triple bodyweight benching is only accomplished by means of excessive arching and overly wide grips... triple bodyweight deadlifting is also beyond the muscular capabilities of the body: it's only accomplished through cheating)

-DO use straps if necessary (unlike our primate kin, humans simply do not have sufficient grip strength... it's genetic)



Anyone (any observant person at least) who's been in the irongame for any significant time would be more impressed by 3 solid properly executed reps with 500 lbs than 2 sloppy round-backed reps with 635 lbs (or even 700 lbs for that matter).

Assuming this advice will go unheaded,

The Luke

You mean unheeded...

Anyway, see what Bob Peoples has to say on the topic.  I have trained my body to lift safely in that style.  I would not recommend it to a rote beginner.  My form is far from sloppy.



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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2007, 12:57:18 PM »
Good lift.


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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2007, 12:57:48 PM »
Excellent lift Chris!  :)

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2007, 01:11:00 PM »
You didn't really lock the weight out. Solid lift nonetheless.

you are a tosser arent you?

Chris, seems to me that you could do more with better leg technique.

very impressive.

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2007, 01:19:05 PM »
Impressive... good form too.

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2007, 01:43:24 PM »
you are a tosser arent you?

Chris, seems to me that you could do more with better leg technique.

very impressive.

He didn't lock out his back, dipshit. He's a strong guy, but there is no way in hell he can do a competition deadlift with 675 lb.
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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2007, 01:45:34 PM »
He didn't lock out his back, dipshit. He's a strong guy, but there is no way in hell he can do a competition deadlift with 675 lb.

u kidding right?

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2007, 01:46:12 PM »
He didn't lock out his back, dipshit. He's a strong guy, but there is no way in hell he can do a competition deadlift with 675 lb.

He did 2 reps, he should be able to lock out one.

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2007, 01:47:40 PM »
He did 2 reps, he should be able to lock out one.

bro you do realize who you a re calling out here,

this is brian x, he rows 225. ;D

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2007, 01:56:26 PM »
bro you do realize who you a re calling out here,

this is brian x, he rows 225. ;D

hahahahah I forgot about the upright row claim.  ::)

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2007, 02:31:38 PM »
Excellent lift Chris! Keep up the good work bro!

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2007, 02:42:20 PM »

Rounded-back deadlifts are a lot like shallow squats: no one is willing to tighten up their form as it means lowering the weights and building back up (to a lower level) with proper technique.


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I was willing and my knees thank me for it, as with deep squats the glutes take the stress off the knees rather than stopping midway through a movement "jarring the knees".

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2007, 02:58:25 PM »
Outstanding deadlift Chris, particularly with NO lifting belt, multi-ply deadlift suit, or straps!!

Are you an all-natural weight-trainer?  I see that you weigh approx. 225 lbs. 

As we discussed in a previous thread, if you are drug-free then you can theoretically add roughly a third to this poundage (to adjust for doping) and to compensate for the lack of either a multi-ply deadlift suit/belt add another 50-100 lbs...so that would be what...approx. 850-900 lbs. "adjusted"?!

Back in my "prime", I eventually reached 605 lbs. at a bwt. of 200 lbs. with only a 4-in. wide lifting belt and no straps (used a hook grip).  Sadly though, it was a "gym lift" and I didn't have a camera (how I wish!)...so I "honestly" can only claim my official PL contest lift of 520 lbs. at a bwt. of 185 lbs. (light in bwt. while competing in the 198 lb. class).  Of course, these lifts were drug-free.

By the way, I watched Bob Peoples deadlift and he kept his hips high in the get-set position over the bar...almost like a stiff-legged dead with a "soft" knee lock.

Again, congratulations Chris on an outstanding dead, particularly w/o any belt/support-gear!!

By the way, have you tried to do a 1RM on the Gerard trap bar?

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Re: Me deadlifting 635 lbs x 2 reps
« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2007, 03:37:04 PM »
Chris,

Not meaning to denigrate your accomplishment, but as someone who has lost training partners to sloppy deadlifting technique... I just gotta question that form.

Videotape yourself from the side and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Most of the force is being transferred directly down your spine and you're literally playing tiddly-winks with your lumbar discs... keep that visual in mind and consider the recovery time for the following injuries:
-pinched disc
-frayed disc
-nerve impingement
-snapped trapezius fibres
-cracked vertebrae

Rounded-back deadlifts are a lot like shallow squats: no one is willing to tighten up their form as it means lowering the weights and building back up (to a lower level) with proper technique.

There are some simple incontravertable rules when it comes to REALLY heavy deadlifting:

-do NOT use a mixed grip (it creates asymmetrical forces across the torso and torque on the already loaded spinal column which induces a shearing/grinding action, it also leads to bicep ruptures/tears). the mixed grip is something espoused only by diehard powerlifters, it's not logical.

-DO use an overhand grip (it prevents injury)

-DO maintain at least a flat back, preferably arched (it's almost impossible to injure an arched back)

-avoid the tendency to point the toes out (ten to two position), parallel/parallelish is better

-avoid using weights in the 3x bodyweight range (just as triple bodyweight benching is only accomplished by means of excessive arching and overly wide grips... triple bodyweight deadlifting is also beyond the muscular capabilities of the body: it's only accomplished through cheating)

-DO use straps if necessary (unlike our primate kin, humans simply do not have sufficient grip strength... it's genetic)



Anyone (any observant person at least) who's been in the irongame for any significant time would be more impressed by 3 solid properly executed reps with 500 lbs than 2 sloppy round-backed reps with 635 lbs (or even 700 lbs for that matter).

Assuming this advice will go unheaded,

The Luke
If we are talking about powerlifters and powerlifting then most use rounded upper backs. Sure you can go to a contest, not place well, but lift with an arched back demonstrating safe technique. Your choice. Like Chris said the body can adapt to do this fairly safely.

Rounded back lifting:



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